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Huffy, illiterate men, scared of peas, it's a weird, weird dating world (No22)

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ChaoticismyLife · 11/09/2012 15:10

Oh, watch...you mentioned flowers Grin

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mercury7 · 13/09/2012 23:57

ee aint wurf it Sponge :o

Lueji · 14/09/2012 02:37

FWIW, Sponge.
My ex was uneducated and in a crap job, and a bit dense.
I was a phd student when we met.
I was of the it's the person that matters persuasion, but after him, I decided to only od men with at least degrees and with decent interests.
After all my friends tend to be like that and it's people I can have interesting conversations with.

I agree that lawyers are probably the worst type for you, but it's not really builders, is it?
I'm sure there are other men out there who might suit you.
And won't be scared of you.

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 05:19

Can't sleep. It's 5am, I've been up since half past 3. Finished the book I was reading and now lying here thinking about Mr60 and drafting messages to him in my head telling him how much I miss him and want to see him again and still holding out some ridiculous hope that he misses me too and knows what a terrible mistake he made cause we had something really sepcial

Can't believe i've been up half the night - that means another wasted day ahead and as it's Friday already that means the entire fucking week has pretty much been a write off. Good thing I don't have a job to go to tomorrow...I mean today, ha! Sorry - I really need a job. Or a boyfriend. Preferably both.
ConfusedSad

hatesponge · 14/09/2012 06:48

Yoga :( I get how you feel - hence me actually going so far as writing out a text (that I won't send) to guy from Saturday. Somehow seeing it written down makes me feel better - I have imaginary conversations in my head too, of the if I saw this person in the street what would I say, etc.

Sometimes when we/re thinking too much about stuff, our brains are too busy and sleep becomes an impossibility - then we're overtired, can't concentrate, end up thinking by default about all the same things again, and so the cycle continues. I didnt get to sleep til after 2. I woke up at 6, so am guilty of this myself. Maybe just draw a line under this week and decide next week will be better? That's what I'm doing :) frankly next week for me can't be any worse than this one

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 07:12

morning sponge. Got about half an hour sleep before my alarm went off.

I wrote out stuff as well (emails not texts - none sent!). the first one was "I miss you so much, I want to talk to you and hear about what's going on for you and hold you etc, etc...". Second one was a bit better, just "I miss having you in my life". Both now deleted. Here's hoping we both have a better week next week.

Actually, next week is the Jewish New Year. No resolutions, just wishes for a sweet & healthy new year. So that's what I'm hoping for and I wish that for you too.

hatesponge · 14/09/2012 07:20

Thanks Yoga - you too.

Next week is going to be up and down for me. Thursday is the anniversary of my dad's death, Friday I have work black tie ball.

MadameOvary · 14/09/2012 07:28

Sponge I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. Sad When was your loss?

hatesponge · 14/09/2012 07:31

MadameO it was 15 years ago, a very long time now.

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 07:32

Well then I wish you strength for next week as well x

MadameOvary · 14/09/2012 08:18

Sponge I lost my mum 25 years ago. Length of time doesn't matter does it, you still wish they were there to share in your life Sad

struwelpeter · 14/09/2012 08:40

Hope sleep, thoughts, mood better for eveyone today? I'm all for thinking that change in the weather doesn't help ie autumn is now inescapable.
This thread moves so quickly that I can't keep up or work out my thoughts on whole issue of OD and what anyone is after in anything at all or what I might want.
Think I will keep reply to a couple of OKC messages I've had and go out for the dates for practice is they happen. No expectations but hell it's a way to get out of the house. Thing in back of my mind I was hoping for a coup de foudre kinda thing and from then an upwards projection. But it's not going to be like that, is it?

snapespeare · 14/09/2012 09:22

Brian Blush thank you!

OhWestern 'sexvet' is the best nickname ever I shall slap his wanking wrist for you except he'd like that, wouldnt he...

Tess good luck for your date today! :)

yoga Sad i hate those broken sleep whirly head things. Hope you're feeling more positive soon. :)

sponge will be thinking of you on your dads anniversary. it's terribly difficult, my mum died over 20 years ago and while we didnt have a particularly close relationship, she was all i had and would have adored her GCs.

watch ykw whining on about his gf...fuck off you twat! :)

well me. Got absolutely hammered with PM, surprised I managed to make my train this morning, suspect still drunk Blush. it was lovely we were sitting on 'our' sofa in the pub at one point and talking about playing piano and he held his hand up to demonstrate his note-span to measure it against mine (exactly the same, i have big drag queen hands) lots of lovely sparky intelligent conversation, oh! he stood up at one point to adjust his belt (he's lost tons of weight and never wears undergarments) & I caught a glimpse of pubes and had a terrible flush of lust. Grin to then back to mine for the congratulatory job champagne and doctor who with my head in his lap and his hand tucked under my boob armpit. Feel terribly happy and a bit sad today (hangover emotions!) It's just him but I'll still fuck the prof for the time being, because it's fun & apparently i'm fucking incredible in bed

cinema tonight. ping! ping! ping!

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 09:24

It might be Stru, but best to remember, equally it might not.

Yoga, sounds like you are having a rough time just now too... Do you think, maybe, the holding onto mr60 thing, is because it was a positive, acceptance, hope type thing... Only saying that because I think for me ywk was that for quite a while....

Mrl has asked to see me tonight And tomorrow night... But then told me he couldn't stay over Because he needs to go home to look after the cats, else they will get upset ( his mother is away for the weekend) I suggested feeding them late sat, say 7 pm, they have a cat flap, would be fine till lunch the next day, but no, apparently they miss people.
So, as a cat ranks higher than me ive told him I'm going away for the weekend, short notice. I dont Think I can do this even on a casual basis....

But, on the plus side, after my good news, I'm taking dd to London to see Matilda, next wed ( very excited) and have just booked off road Segway Racing for my birthday :)

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 09:29

Snape. :) :) :) :)
He loves you. For sure.

I know re ywk. Only so many times I can send a text saying ' sorry, it must be stressful' or ' sorry to hear that' just a stream of rants as to why she's a bitch... Which he's been saying for a year since he moved in with her, and is actually moving with her. It's bollocks. I know that.

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 09:34

Snape - I think we all want to date you by now! Grin

watch - remind me of ywk story (don't know if I joined this thread after or if I've just forgotten)?

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 09:42

Yoga, It's not even worth repeating. It's similar to snapes, although ywk is an arse. 3 years...... I wanted him for the first year And a bit, he has chased me for the rest. Hes a liar... And used to getting his own way. Hes living with someone now, has been for about a year. Had a massive falling out when I found this out as I had furnished his flat ( he gave me his card) Didnt talk for months and months. Started 6 weeks or so ago when he told me he is moving near to me And wants to make a go.
It's all rubbish.

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 09:45

I had a text from him at 7:26
' the unbearableness has started already- sigh'

I replied, ' am sure it's just moving stress and Will be back to normal soon'

He said ' normal is awful too'

Me - ' then move out ffs'

hatesponge · 14/09/2012 09:47

madameO sorry for your loss. It will be 19 years in January since my mum died. My parents are still even after all this time instinctively the first people I think to tell when I have good news, or bad.

stru OD outcomes can be hugely varied. Some people get the lightning bolt on their first or second ever date and end up in a relationship with or even married to that person. At the other end of the spectrum you have me who hasn't got past a first date in 4 years! Most people's experiences - and I'm sure this will be the case for you as well - fall somewhere between the two. I am an extreme, so don't let my abject failure put you off :)

snape tales of your evenings with PM always make me want to go 'ahhh':). I agree he does love you.

watch hurray for segway, and for binning off MrL, prioritising a cat over you, the cheek!

I have been thinking about bloke from Sat again. Yes I know I shouldnt I keep wondering whether he ever meant to see me again, or that was just BS? Or whether he meant it at the time, then went home and overnight had second thoughts? Being charitable I hope the latter. But then I still don't get why every time I have text him since he replied as though I would be seeing him again. I'd really rather he hadn't replied at all. Meh.

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 09:49

Watch, so let me get this straight - he's moving nearer to you with his girlfriend but wants to make a go of things with you? Hmm

Problem with Mr60 is that apart from a tiny bit of arsey behaviour (texting me when drunk after he broke up with me) I still believe he is a genuinely lovely, honest guy and I would have him back in a heartbeat if he wanted to give things a go.

snapespeare · 14/09/2012 09:51

watch< cats. nice to find out priorities, isnt it. I think he has to be permanently binned off. Have a stern talk to your foof please. how exciting about Matilda! Envy If you would like a quick rum coffee beforehand, do let me know - I would love to meet up, I have a fabulous hug waiting for you!

yoga sigh but my heart belongs to another. (shrug) ahh well, form an orderly queue ladies. no elbowing.

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 09:58

Snape,I'd bloody love to!!!!! I'm in London from about 11, show is at 2:30, dobe by five, getting the 7pm train home...

Yoga, I know. Hence him being an arse. I have morals...and don't believe a word he says in any case.. hes very sucessful, not stupid by far, so I.don't know why he does it.

Yes, I.come second to cats. Honestly, I Think my libido got the better of me Sunday. I thought I could benefit in a fwb thing, but not if I'm second to a cat!!!!

snapespeare · 14/09/2012 10:03

oh lets! I can nip out at lunch! yay!

ykw is an absolute fucking arsehole. really. his poor gf - he's a nasty, manipulative, duplicitous fuckmuppet. and thats being kind.

yes, yes he loves me. he's never told me, but i know he does - it's just the slight difference between loving someone and wanting to fuck them until they beg for mercy.

Yogagirl17 · 14/09/2012 10:05

watch - Oh yes and please bin MrL - the sooner the better, it will only get worse.

Meanwhile Irish/American is still trying stalk woo me! I have told him I won't go out with him (as it would involve him getting on a plane to see me!). I have told him all the crap in my life - including that I'm not over Mr60 - in an effort to scare him off. He still says I am the girl for him I just don't know it yet and that he is going to play Van Halen and Guns N Roses (as in actually play on his guitar, not just turn on his ipod) very loudly for all his neighbours in my honour. I honestly don't know whether to Grin or Confused!!!! I should really just tell him to fuck off an leave me alone but I'm sort of entertained by the whole thing.

watchoutforthatsnail · 14/09/2012 10:08

I'm not sure if I still have your number, Lets sort this via pm? Or fb? Will be lovely to see you :)

I'm not meeting him now, ever. Of course its bullshit, else he would have left... I feel bad for her and have toyed with fbing her.... But really It's none of my business...

snapespeare · 14/09/2012 10:15

watch pm (always! Wink)

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