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Support for those in Emotionally Abusive relationships: 11

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foolonthehill · 10/09/2012 10:02

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
a check list Use this site for some concise diagnostic lists and support
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
why financial abuse is domestic violenceAre you a free ride for a cocklodger, or supposed to act grateful for every penny you get for running the home?
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.
20 signs you're with a controlling and/or abusive partner Exactly what it says on the tin

Books :

"Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft - The eye-opener. Read this if you read nothing else.
"The Verbally Abusive Relationship" by Patricia Evans ? He wants power OVER you and gets angry when you prove not to be the dream woman who lives only in his head.
"The Verbally Abusive Man, Can He Change?" by Patricia Evans - Answer: Perhaps - ONLY IF he recognises HIS issues, and if you can be arsed to work through it. She gives explicit guidelines.
"Men who hate women and the women who love them" by Susan Forward. The author is a psychotherapist who realised her own marriage was abusive, so she's invested in helping you understand yourself just as much as helping you understand your abusive partner.
"The Emotionally Abusive Relationship: How to Stop Being Abused and How to Stop Abusing" by Beverley Engels - The principle is sound, if your partner isn't basically an arse, or disordered.
"Codependent No More : How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself" by Melody Beattie - If you a rescuer, you're a co-dependent. It's a form of addiction! This book will help you.
But whatever you do, don't blame yourself for being Co-dependent!

Websites :

So, you're in love with a narcissist - Snarky, witty, angry, but also highly intelligent: very good for catharsis
Dr Irene's verbal abuse site - motherly advice to readers' write-ins from a caring psychotherapist; can be a pain to navigate but very validating stuff
Out of the fog - and now for the science bit! Clinical, dispassionate, and very informative website on the various forms of personality disorders and how they impact on family and intimate relationships.
Get your angries out ? You may not realise it yet, but you ARE angry. Find out in what unhealthy ways your anger is expressing itself. It has probably led you to staying in an unhealthy relationship.
Melanie Tonia Evans is a woman who turned her recovery from abuse into a business. A little bit "woo" and product placement-tastic, but does contain a lot of useful articles.
Love fraud - another site by one woman burned by an abusive marriage
You are not crazy - one woman's experience. She actually has recordings of her and her abusive partner having an argument, so you can hear what verbal abuse sounds like. A pain to navigate, but well worth it.
Baggage reclaim - Part advice column, part blog on the many forms of shitty relationships.
heart to heart a wealth of information and personal experiences drawn together in one place

what couples therapy does for abusers

If you find that he really wants to change
should I stay or should I go bonus materials this is a site containing the material for men who want to change?please don?t give him the link?print out the content for him to work through.

The Bill of Rights
bill of rights here is what you should expect as a starting point for your treatment in a relationship, as you will of course be treating others!!

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LemonDrizzled · 25/09/2012 08:58

Hilde well done for being firm. I think your email was very succinct! (Nice word)

He may not have read it if he needs to come home for email access. If he has then he doesn't need to come home to email. IYSWIM!

Be strong everybody. We deserve respect and consideration

ponygirlcurtis · 25/09/2012 09:31

hilde, I agree, good email. Glad you've sent it. I also agree that he'll be using not responding and keeping you in limbo as a punishment. I second the idea of being out of the house at 11am.
Have a think about a new name, something appropriate will come to you. Something that you like being associated with, something that means something.

lostmywellies - my friend is actually a counsellor, she has always been a fantastic listener so it was inevitable! I think she was a little angry at me initially, and I think understandably so - she turned her phone on at lunchtime on Sunday, when she was on the way out, to find two texts from me, then heard nothing from me for a couple of hours, was really worried, didn't know what to do. But I think she was mainly angry on my behalf - she texted later yesterday to apologise if she'd overstepped with anything she'd said about NSDH! As if!!!! She was just very upset, we were both crying at one point (in Starbucks, classy). She doesn't know what it's like to be in my situation, doesn't entirely understand my inability to get out completely, but she's still supporting me, still trying to understand. Unlike my sister who has just cut off all contact with me now. Sad

Nini: you said If I stop NSDH will see it as proof that I don?t want us to work and pile on the blame. Without wanting to be blunt, so what? If you stop going because you don't want to be in the relationship any more because he's not changing or making enough effort, who cares what he thinks? It's all just more proof that he's not good enough for you.

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Fellforit · 25/09/2012 09:53

Hi ladies, just checking in for the first time. Been directed here by a lovely MNer. This is a new a/c because of RL issues, but I have been around a while.

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foolonthehill · 25/09/2012 11:03

Well done Hilde. It will get better. Strong and firm you have good reason for doing what you are doing and he has had more than enough second chances.

For now lay down you boundaries and don't be scared to call for help.

much love

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foolonthehill · 25/09/2012 11:04

fell welcome, sorry and post when you can/need.

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unhappyhildebrand · 25/09/2012 11:11

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LemonDrizzled · 25/09/2012 11:26

Be strong hilde

The problem as we know is that if you let him talk to you on the phone or in person he will twist everything round and make you feel bad and induce spaghetti head mess so you get upset and look like a loon. While you keep him talking on text or email you retain emotional control. He doesnt want that so he will keep trying to get access. You don't owe him anything he has forfeited any rights with his awful treatment of you.

Rooting for you!!

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LemonDrizzled · 25/09/2012 11:38

Hilde Is he getting your emails? Or just the texts? I'm a bit confused.

Welcome Fellforit to this place we would all rather not be.
You said in Your thread that you don't know how you will get through the night, let alone the weekend. Well the first thing is that you will manage because you are stronger than you think. He has ground you down and made you forget how capable you are. You were fine before you met him and had your confidence battered and you will be fine without him! Just take it an hour at a time. Be kind to yourself, do small things that make you feel better. It will get easier once your head clears. You are probably a bit shocked too.

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TheSilverPussycat · 25/09/2012 11:47

Right behind you hilde. Good text response. He can go somewhere with free wi-fi?

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TheSilverPussycat · 25/09/2012 11:49

Oh, I see he is somewhere he can get emails.

zookeeper · 25/09/2012 11:52

If you keep answering he'll not leave you alone. Ignore ignore ignore. x

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zookeeper · 25/09/2012 11:55

Nothing

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zookeeper · 25/09/2012 12:15

you're just dancing to his tune Hildebrand;he is just trying to engage you; if it's not the business there will be something else.

I am sure he can manage for a few days without you. Tell him you'll speak to him on, say, Monday and not before. And mean it.

lostmywellies · 25/09/2012 13:01

Hey, hilde, sounds like you're doing really well under pressure there. Well done for not caving in and talking. Email and text is fine... you could always leave it longer and longer before responding - like sleep training with toddlers! :o

Hope he leaves your driveway soon. Is it the only place in town with a good signal? Must get quite crowded there, I should think. Hmm

lostmywellies · 25/09/2012 13:02

I have Lundy Bancroft in my house!!! Well, just the book, obviously, but still, I am sooo excited finally to have my hands on a copy! Have made a date with him for tonight...

CharlotteCollinsislost · 25/09/2012 13:14

Hilde, your comment about nicknames has prompted me to get a new one. Just to be a bit more secure (NSDH knows the old one). Plus, I've been lost for ages and am used to that, but wellies has never really fitted, iyswim! So I'll make a gradual transition to Charlotte... she's a character from Pride and Prejudice with whom I empathise.