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LouP19 · 01/08/2012 20:12

I have come home and my husband has moved out all of his belongings. Everything, even the garage is clear. He dropped me off after work and said he had to go and play cricket and needed some time on his own. I was distraught and said we needed to talk. Things haven't been right for a few weeks, he has denied somebody else.

All of his belongings are gone. I am shaking. No one knows where he has gone. Married 5 years, no kids. Please please help.

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LordOfThe5Rings · 02/08/2012 19:06

So good your Mums a legend.

mathanxiety · 02/08/2012 19:07

That might just be it, Xales.

Have you managed to contact your bank and what is your financial situation? (Just to add to your anxiety sorry I wouldn't put anything past him and I would believe his financial promises only when he actually delivers)

What is the next bill up for payment? Track it and see if he pays it.

Watch the mortgage like a hawk. Is there a website you can log into to see if his payment clears?

LouP19 · 02/08/2012 19:13

Actually if there is OW and she's pregnant right now I think it's hilarious. Always felt he was a bit scared of it with me, so would be his just desserts if some happy little slapper has got up the duff after a fling.

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countingto10 · 02/08/2012 19:13

Has he told his mum where he is staying and who with and proof of that? That will be the most telling thing Hmm. His actions tell you all you need to know.

My DH did not tell anyone where he was or who he was with, not even his mum and she thought he was having breakdown too. No just another bog standard affair and demanding ow.

BigBandwitch · 02/08/2012 19:19

Agree, Aspergers label is blather.

Do not take this guy back. He is SO cold. If he can switch off with such speed, you will never ever be able to count on him again. You mentioned WAY back that your pregnancy turned out to be a chemical pregnancy. So a couple of days after that he moved out lock stock and barrel and texted you about how hurt and confused he is!? he swindled 400£ out of you and yet sent you flowers. Now he's wrecking your head telling you you need to hear his concerns?!

HOnestly, whether there's another woman or NOT, he's not a long term partner.. not one you could be happy with. you'd be living in fear of him disappearing again.

Jellykat · 02/08/2012 19:20

Glad you've eaten something Lou, and your mum sounds absolutely brilliant!

You go at your pace, please don't let him emotionally manipulate you into talking to him until you're 100% ready, and even then, please take what he says with a massive bag of salt, you can't trust him anymore, that you know.

I can't see how this turn around can be genuine, it just doesn't make sense - even if he thought the grass would be greener without you, he couldn't possibly turn around so quickly after such past careful planning, and as others have said how could he treat you like that if he still liked you, let alone loved you? there wasn't any compassion, respect nothing..

If i were you, i'd shove his chutney where the sun don't shine!

Kaloobear · 02/08/2012 19:25

God, OP, this thread has made my blood run cold. I'm so glad you've got your mum with you and I'm so sorry you're going through this.

kittybiscuits · 02/08/2012 19:37

There is a lot of minimising and excusing in the air, LouP. It's pretty clear he is with someone, and he is the lowest of the low for send you vague and hopeful messages probably because he's shitting himself in case he's done the wrong thing . Perhaps it might be an idea to put a stop to that by texting that when you have a full and frank explanation for his actions via email, you will then consider what, if anything, there is discuss. Suggest that until he is ready to do that, you do not want to hear from him, and that if he lies or is vague in his email, that is the end of the road. Full and frank....but no more 'I love you and I'm hurting so much' bullshit

mcmooncup · 02/08/2012 19:38

That Relate counsellor, I'm sorry, was very unprofessional. Aspergers is a complex condition and in NO WAY would she be able to 'diagnose' on the phone or indeed be qualified to. I erm, work 'in the profession' and that is outrageous advice you got today. Please do your best to ignore it. It's a red herring anyway.

Heleninahandcart · 02/08/2012 19:39

Lou whatever an unqualified Relate counsellor thinks, the bottom line is he planned this right down to his chutney the last detail. For weeks he has had you on edge, doubting your relationship and trying to talk to him. For weeks he has denied anything is wrong and told you, you have it wrong. For weeks (at least) he has been lying to you.

I agree with Springdaffs that his actions have been chlling, I don't think for one moment he has had any sort of breakdown Hmm, this idea just plays into the pity me attention seeking script he had written for everyone to avoid being seen for what he is.

There is only one reason why. Because he is a selfish, lying, cheating cunt.

kittybiscuits · 02/08/2012 19:42

You sound lovely LouP and you deserve so much better than to be treated like this x

mathanxiety · 02/08/2012 19:50

Quite possibly the OW saw the amount of stuff he brought with him, right down to the chutney, and is now giving him the 'WTF have I got myself into? / 'Who does such a thorough packing job?' vibe, maybe accompanied by 'Where do you expect me to put all this crap?' or 'But I already have chutney' -- and suddenly it is all feeling very real and he is panicking.

Or he has noticed that she leaves toe nail trimmings on the bathroom floor or some such little habit, and he has come back to earth with an almighty jolt.

Do not talk to him. Please...

AgathaFusty · 02/08/2012 19:51

The absolute cheek of the idiot - refusing to listen to your concerns for weeks, but expecting you to run at the click of his slippery little fingers to listen to his concerns when it suits him.

I wonder if he has turned up at an OWs house, with somewhat more baggage than she was expecting (who would expect fucking chutney??), and it has thrown cold water over their dalliance, hence his need to keep you onside?

AgathaFusty · 02/08/2012 19:52

x-posts with math....

Offred · 02/08/2012 19:53

Been lurking, think you are brilliant!!!

I don't think your texts were bad! I think they were better than what was suggested by others because they give nothing away!!! They are clever and respond to his request to talk gracefully with dignity and without even giving away whether you want to talk or what you might talk about, purely and simply granting his request to speak to you and saying you will allow him to speak, excellent. I think the MH things are red herrings too, he had treated you in an appalling way which is hurtful and importantly incompatible with your desire to have children, if he has done that because of some MH problem it doesn't really make much difference.

quietlysuggests · 02/08/2012 20:06

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JellyMould · 02/08/2012 20:15

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Sugary · 02/08/2012 20:21

I wondered if the OW was pregnant and your husband was feeling cornered. Whatever his reasons are, he sounds very unhinged and Is not displaying the behaviour of someone you'd want to be having babies with.

Take care of yourself xx

Chubfuddler · 02/08/2012 20:25

Re that last message: my father is exactly like this. exactly. The self serving, self pitying tone of that text just made me shudder, it's exactly the sort of crap my father tries to fling my way every couple if years. I gave no idea whether my father is mentally ill or just a total bell end and the same applies to your husband. MH issues aren't a get out of jail free card. And I doubt your husband or my father ate in any recognisable way mentally ill - just massive bell ends chucking their toys out of the pram.

Change the locks. Argue about the rights and wrongs afterwards. As a lawyer I would say - do whatever you feel you need to do. It's up to h if he wants to go to thd trouble and expense of doing something about it.

Longtalljosie · 02/08/2012 20:27

I think he had an idea about how all this would be. He expected you to be distraught, begging him to come back. When this didn't happen it was a total kick to the ego - and suddenly when he thinks he might lose you he has to try to be sure he hasn't. This is a person trying to keep all his cards on the table.

Bugger this. You deserve better.

Houseofplain · 02/08/2012 20:33

Exactly what I think. He callously in clinical style, cleared himself out of ops life, the marital home and marriage.

Then when she's not phoning every 5, begging and pleading for him to come home...he thinks....shit didn't plan this. I really have no fall back now.

mummyinspain · 02/08/2012 20:36

Ok, Here is what you do.

Hide behind Mum (who rocks by the sound of it for a bit), stop phoning relate, it is meaningless there is no his side your side, perspective. If you need to talk call the samaritains, who will listen not advise or diagnosis.

He LEFT you somewhere, took money from you, ransacked the house. THoses are facts.

If you want to talk to him then that is fine, but be aware for the biggest load of bullshit you have ever heard. It will be along the lines of gaslighting.

You don´t know how hard it is for me,
I have to commute to work....
You wanted to TTC, I felt I had to keep you happy.
All I want is for you to be happy.
You never NEEDED me.
YOu don´t listen to me.

Trust me you will hear what he wants you to, he will advoid, dismiss, dodge and leave you feeling like this is your fault.

You want the truth and he is not going to give it to you!

So does it matter what he has to say, What is going to make this right for you? What is going to make you feel safe, Loved, valued??????

Cause unless he walks in and says I have been an attention loving pig and I am now going to the Dr (please come with me so you know I did it) I would never ask you to fogive me, I have been a shit head. The rest is blowing smoke up your a*. having his cake and eating it, and generally being a manipulative gite.

Now think for just one moment, get a pad and pen and write down everything you loved about him, everything good about him, Everything you hated about him and everything bad about him, Good things in the relationship and Bad things about the relationship. Go on try it, if you are honest with yourself I bet you will be surprised!

Now write a list of questions you need him to answer. Be cold, hard line and specific. I´ll give you a start.

When did you book the van?
Where have you been?
With who?
Prove it.
When did you decided to do this?
Who is the girl in the photo from Napals?
Why did you take my half of the holiday?
Have you slept with anyone else?
Did you use protection?

If you want any hope of getting the facts you have got to be hard as iron. Do the, you wanted to talk this is what I need to talk about, if you wont answer my questions I will leave. Give him 1 warning then stand up and Leave.

Have the meeting somewhere safe and nuetral ie Somewhere you can leave from when you want to go.

Then I am afraid you are going to have to take some time, feel this pain and work out what YOU want to do!

When I finally found the strenght to leave my abusive partner (years ago now) I was a shadow, I didn´t know myself anymore. I was the last person in the world anyone would have expected to stay with a man like that, I was as hard a nails at work but at home...... The black eyes, broken ribs, stiches, broken bones healed a lot faster than the emotional control and hurt, I had to find someway to keep my head working, as my heart still loved the bastard, my heart still said it was my fault, if I had been better, different, more understanding, less controlling, shall I go on. I needed something to drown out my internal dialoug(sp) with the truth. I found this....... Played at full volume, sung untill I was horse, hummed to myself at work. Anything to replace my thoughts of blame and guilt with the truth. It got me through thoses dart nights looking at a mobile phone and praying for it to ring or bleep.

Good Luck Sweetie and remember he choose to do this, he choose to hurt you, he choose to be a cowardly sh*t.

mummyinspain · 02/08/2012 20:36

Sorry that was a lot longer than I meant it to be.

babesdontlie · 02/08/2012 20:43

Lou, you are coping brilliantly and your mum is an absolute godsend.

My DH has depression and we've had some ups and downs along the way and he has done the running away thing, but, and here's the thing that sticks out to me, when he 'had to get away' he took one bag of clothes and rang me to say where he was, he then had a day or two to himself and would then ring me to discuss things.

He never took every single item he owns including foodstuffs, I doubt he would be able to move all his stuff out, on his own, in the time I was at work.

Do you think the OW has put pressure on him to leave you/decide between you both?

I personally would not be in any great hurry to speak to him on his terms and would be telling him since he made the decision to desert you everthing from now on will be on your terms.

{{{{{big hug}}}})

SconesForTea · 02/08/2012 21:08

Everything mummyinspain said.

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