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Turning Tavern IV - Down Bi the riverside, near the well of loneliness...

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NotForProfit · 07/07/2012 13:53

Hi all,

thought i'd be proactive and start a new thread for the wenches of the turning tavern as the old thread's pretty much full...

for anyone new to this, it's a thread for women suddenly finding themselves attracted to another woman, so grab a glass of something intoxicating, pull up a chair by the fireside and we'll try to help one another deal with the elation, confusion and heartache of rediscovering your sexuality.

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likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 21:16

outmy, I wonder if you get impression my wiq is a bit cold by nature, after all my posts? maybe you didn't say but now that I'm thinking this you can Grin - or maybe you don't think so?

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likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 21:44

well not sure what you call 'fairly short' hair as I can gather it still with a hairpin into low ponytail but it's above te shoulders. Sometimes just after a cut the tail is ridiculusly short but not at the moment! It wouldn't suit me at all to have very short hair. wiq's skin isn't bad - maybe close to her age but still looks a bit younger than average woman of her age, it's actually more her figure that looks closer to her age than the face. you said outmy that you haad girly-ish hair so I know it;s not short, though prob you don't wear it loose and long, if it's longish.
NotFor I do visualise you as quite boyish - are you?

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likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:01

what about to school? do you not tie it up then? not sure i can imagine tomboyish but with loose long soft hair! Grin you sound (the way you express yourself) tomboyish though! that's why i pictured a ponytail rather than long flowing hair..
ooh, not sure about CW - I think she is definitely feminine figure/fase-wise (not very curvy but still with curves).
Do you think I'm feminine or boyish, generally the way i come across, outmy? I'm not sure myself how I look in these terms! I do dress in jeans mainly unless I have to go somewhere dressy - or it's a holiday abroad and hot!

likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:04

outmy you've missed my question above (second post on this page) - unless you sparing me the truth!Grin

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likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:14

haha of course i tolerate more - wouldn't you say the same regarding your wiq?! it's the affection we feel, but also in hre case I can see that she is not like this ONLY with me otherwise i wouldn't tolerate (at least would find it hard to carry on seeing her as would feel rejectted!) - don't forget she can be really caring and nice to me at times (something that lacked with your sadly) - it's just I mention thiose more as I'm over sensitive to any negative signals from her. Recently she's been really nice apart fromn that latest cold text. I think wiq is wonderful - all my complaints are really based on wanting her to be attracted to me seriously, more devil-may-care, if I wasn't I'd find her mostly nice on friendly basis.
Not saying she is stone cold, but colder than I first thought, or maybe too tough rather than cold (if that's not the same).

likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:17

so your wiq saw you in a more feminine mode? do you think long suits you more? I NEVER wear combats, but jeans most of the time - haven't crossed into properly boyish. NOt sure re hippyish - not really, never wear lots of bracelets/long skirts. I'm actually slightly sporty in my dress (not white trainers) but I like a feminine top/cardi.

likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:18

when i say feminine I don't mean frilly Grin just 'soft'.

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likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:46

I'd like to have longer hair, below the shoulder, but it doesn't grow long Grin - I used to have it a bit longer and with more body, when i was younger

likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 22:48

do you think you will always be attracted to similar type as your wiq, outmy? or are you open minded on that?

followyourjoy · 07/08/2012 23:23

evening everyone! I just caught up on the latest developments and I have to say I do agree with you all that Notfor's WIQ is a dangerous crush...to be kept at arms length (well away from a shawl) and hopefully Notfor you can cool your attention towards her just to save your heart. I also find it a bit fishy that her DP was checking you out so much, she most probably told him that you had the hots for her and by telling him, she was boosting her ego even more. Huge red flag alert there.

likeatonneofbricks · 07/08/2012 23:50

hi follow - I mentioned something similar earlier regarding the wiq telling her P about NotFor - I think it's not on for him then to openly stare at her as if she is some 'curiosity'. Or if they aer looking for a couple to swing with at some point, then also not any better!

CaoNiMa · 08/08/2012 07:07

Dear all,

Just a quick one from me. I'm in Hong Kong with WIQ - we were airlifted here by SOS ambulance from China last week, as she has severe bleeding in her lungs from pneumonia. The situation is grave, although I'm trying to stay positive.

I'm not religious, but if anyone has any good vibes & positive thoughts they could send to us, I would be so grateful.

It's just so awful. I'm so glad I told her how I felt, and kissed her before she got so sick.

xx

Trappedbyacrush · 08/08/2012 08:17

CaoNiMa, I am so sorry to hear about your WIQ. Thank God you've been around to help her and to look after her. You were definitely meant to be a part of her life. I'm praying for her swift recovery. xx

followyourjoy · 08/08/2012 10:58

Likea - Yes! We were on the same tip there with Notfor's WIQ and DP....not sure about the swinging but she definitely told him and I would hazard a guess that he finds it all a bit titillating. Notfor - hope you're okay and don't find it annoying that we're all casting a black cloud over your situation but it's more out of protection for you and it's easier to be objective about a situation if you're not emotionally involved.
Cao- so so sorry to hear about your WIQ. Will definitely be sending you both healing energy and positive vibes over the ether....keep strong for yourself and her. hugs xx

HappyTitChick · 08/08/2012 12:04

Here I am back with a very different name!! And I am very happy with my WIQ and she with me. Just snatching our lusty moments. Just taking things slow(ish) and definitely below radar.

Notfor - your WIQ is toying with you, methinks. And I also think its dangerous to have your DH egging you on when alcohol is involved. Perhaps not. But I'd move on.

HappyTitChick · 08/08/2012 12:14

I have tried to catch up with all your stories but i think its your history i'm missing. I feel I haven't offered much advice and yet my recent journey has answered many of the questions i had. Remind me - have you slept with another woman? Was your turning based on sexual attraction, spiritual connection or emotional needs?

Follow - you had a question - i've forgotten it - will go back & retrieve it!

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likeatonneofbricks · 08/08/2012 13:03

Cao - imagine what would happen if you haven't made her go to a proper doctor! it's obv serious - God, airlifted to HQ! I'd be exactly the same if anthing like that hjappened with my wiq (or even more minor) and she needed someone there - sometimes I alsomst wish (like you did that three was such a chance to show her how supportive i can be - if she wants me of course. CAo, where are her relatives? she must have some - it can't be JUST you who visits/stays with her? what about her other friends, and the gays? you must have some rest too, especially if you aer living in the hospital! sending positive wishes!

likeatonneofbricks · 08/08/2012 13:08

outmy, I'm sure the 'new' poster is Emma, she purely changed her username as no dilemma anymore!
My wiq hasn't cancelled for tomorrow, so will see her. I'm determined to find out whether she's goign on holiday with the man or with a friend/friends. She is going this week. I'm staying by myself at hers with the pets while she's away. If I find out she IS going with the man, I will have to drop my efforts with her andtry to reprogramme to friendship, as if he is still on the scene and going somewhere with her, it's ohbviuosly progressing and its what she wants for herself. If not with him, will also consider whether to go on, depending on how she is with me now. Haven't sen her for two weeks. Texts back to neutral.

likeatonneofbricks · 08/08/2012 13:10

Chick - great for you, do you think you can move on to less 'snathed' meetings? or is that part of the thrill? I didn't have a sexual experience, just felt attracted and emotionally touched by this one!