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Turning Tavern IV - Down Bi the riverside, near the well of loneliness...

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NotForProfit · 07/07/2012 13:53

Hi all,

thought i'd be proactive and start a new thread for the wenches of the turning tavern as the old thread's pretty much full...

for anyone new to this, it's a thread for women suddenly finding themselves attracted to another woman, so grab a glass of something intoxicating, pull up a chair by the fireside and we'll try to help one another deal with the elation, confusion and heartache of rediscovering your sexuality.

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NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 19:55

when im drunk i'll flirt with absolutely anyone! im a stereotypical bisexual , in that respect at least! except i still find it that much harder with someone i actually fancy. recently ive found myself flirting mainly with men who are old enough to be my dad! wtf? perhaps im attempting to deflect or camoflage myself. throw people off the scent, so to speak?

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NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 19:58

outmy - good luck for your last day of term tomorrow. hope it goes smoothly and that she doesnt give you any nasty looks or anything.

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NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 20:03

dh says i should just be proactive and ask cw for her phone number if i see her tomorrow. as its the end of term and all. i dont want to seem too pushy so im thinking i shouldnt... right, thats enough random posts from me!

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likeatonneofbricks · 19/07/2012 21:03

haha, your dh championing you to go for cw's number! honestly this is so lucky for a bi woman to be with a man like that! has he no fears at all? or is he about to ask for 'fun on the side ' too I wonder - or would want to be aprt of it somehow? if none of these, he's an actual treasure!
outmy there is no history with NotFor and her wiq1, so even though a bit disappointing she hasn't had time to get really emotional, hence easier to move on - plus of course you and me don't have distaction from another woman admirer who we like, that really does make it easier!
I hope it does go smoothly tomorrow outmy, somehow I really am not sure that she would say something - if she's suddenly nice you have to be prepared and not get hooked again! it's just this staring the day before gives me thoughts she's considering smth. Maybe just wants to ask whethr you'll volunteer for her own info but then best to say 'I wasn't going to - or do you think I'm wrong?' so not to get flustered and gice the wrong reply.
NotFor so is your opinion against making a pass when my wiq has been drinking? could it be that she then regrets it and is angry about it?

likeatonneofbricks · 19/07/2012 21:06

*to be a part

likeatonneofbricks · 19/07/2012 21:07

*she wouldn't say something

NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 21:08

Outmy -Well, I just don't have any spare energy for bad feeling right now. Feel like i've spent enough time brooding on her, and that i understand her reasons. As i've said before, she already has quite a lot of sway in my life because of her role and i'm quite glad to be taking some of the power back again. When i actually see her, of course it's hard not to feel confused or hurt or to want her but luckily I only work part-time and i'm not always office based, so that's much better than having to go in every day and face her.

OK so asking for CW's phone number is off the menu. Good, that's one less thing i have to remember to do tomorrow!

I think you're doing the right thing by dropping/collecting and running. The less time you have to spend worrying on the last day of term about what she's doing, the better. You deserve a break over the 6 weeks.

I don't know what you should make of the puzzled look - so hard to interpret. I know i've spent a lot of time trying to decipher both of my WIQ's looks recently (some people being easier to read than others!) and it always feels such an inexact science... perhaps she's hoping you'll give her a second chance but is afraid to actually ask for one?

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likeatonneofbricks · 19/07/2012 21:10

Not For I'm pretty sure you can sit back and wait for cw to make next step - after giving her suggestive looks! after all she started it so she's not shy or unsure, she was prob waiting for some response to up the ante.

likeatonneofbricks · 19/07/2012 21:12

Not For - I think you missed the info that outmy is not going to see wiq in 6 weeks time - she's moving to a diff section of school wioth dd so that's pretty much it! unless she volunteered.

NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 21:19

I know - he's just quite enjoying discussing it with me at the moment - i don't think the emotional thing has really entered into his way of viewing it. yet.

yes, I think actually my WIQ succeeded in nipping it in the bud before i got too emotional, with her comment, and also with her withdrawal of eye-contact and decision to avoid me socially. I just think fair enough, there's no rule that says she has to sleep with me if she doesn't want to! Yes, I was getting attached, but I have to stop that now cos the writing's on the wall.

Likea - in answer to your question about whether it would be wrong after a few drinks, I think back on my relationships and pretty much none of them would've happened without the help of alcohol. Yes, I occasionally got off with the wrong person, (but only when really bladdered) more often than not after a few drinks it helped me find a way to commune with someone I'd been secretly wanting for a long time. So don't worry about it too much, just have a drink and a half and feel like you can conquer the world rather than getting ratarsed Grin

I like that Homer Simpson quote about alcohol being the 'cause of, and solution to all of life's problems'! God i bet i sound like a right lush. I'm honestly not Grin

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NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 21:20

oh, sorry, didn't realise you wouldn't be seeing her after 6 weeks. so much info on this thread!

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NotForProfit · 19/07/2012 21:22

Likea - yep that's my gut feeling on CW too. She's given me endless come-ons, I've made it clear I'm interested in getting to know her, so let's sit back and see what happens next... could be fun Grin

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likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 09:11

looks like we all will be seeing wiqs today. Mine is likely to be very busy though. Also I'm going on holiday for a week, will have access to internet there but may not be till sunday so If I don;t report till then don't worry Grin - it doesn't mean I'm down in the dumps about wiq! but will try to log in later today briefly as want to know how outmy gets on with her last day!

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NotForProfit · 20/07/2012 11:41

outmy - u could be right there. at least we both know where we stand Sad

likea - hope you have a great time.

don't think anything is going to happen on my last day either - cw may already have gone away somewhere as i didn't see her yesterday either. ah well...

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likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 16:19

hi ladies Grin, sneaked into internet cafe as have no laptop with me, and not yet on holiday either! thanks for the wishes, I do need a break.
outmy I didn't mean i expected anything positive to happen, but was a bit worried that wiq maybe saying anything negative to you and wanted to be supportive - and generally was concerned how would you be getting on with it mentally, hope you can distract and have something positive happening
today, that's what i mainly meant. Are you going anywhere too? you need a treat after all this if nt a break, maybe arrange something nice with dc or just yourself?
I'm the only one then who's going to tak to wiq after all, though who knows maybe cw will be there, NotF. I don't why but am nervous, we wpn;t be on our own so it's not like it's 'the big day' for confessions, but nervousi suppose how she will be with me as that's the mood I'll take with me on holiday. Well if not nice will try to shake off of course while i'm there. can prob report on sunday.

likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 16:24

what i will do is give her definite looks, like cw to NotFor, see whether she will like it or not. It's a coincidence, but my male friend just saif to me after our last meeting 'I don't now how she manages to resist your bedroom eyes' Shock! I wish! then I thought maybe this is it - I don't do it enough or blatantly enough like I do with this man who i have some history with but not even interested anymore. And also from what we discussed - maybe really obvious looks IS the way to go, like a man would look at her. We'll see.

likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 16:25

*'I don't know' (not 'now')

likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 16:28

I mean i wasn't doing 'those eyes' with him on purpose and wasn't even aware - must have been for a second when air kissing, but i'm not attracted anymore even though still like the look of him and the company.

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likeatonneofbricks · 20/07/2012 19:23

now wiq has let me use her old laptop briefly.. to be fair I wasn't JUST checking the site in the cafe but my mail too! yes, it must have been hard for you - I'd have looked too if i were you. Mind you, you can always volunteer so it's your CHOICE not to see her, and it's great that you managed not to get stuck and find excuses to see her! it will take a while - if you must you can always come and see her once in a couple of month just to nake the progress easier. Still try to notice other women just so that your mind opens.
wiq is in a neutral mood today - nice and quite chatty but no sigbals as such, sober too - so have no choice but go aong with that, you know sometimes i fel she invites more but I cant quite read her when she's nice but almost too nice, rather than vibe-y.

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