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Is there a guide to getting over someone, anywhere?

338 replies

calibri · 25/06/2012 12:08

I have been in love with the same man for about 10 years. I worked for him, although not anymore. He had a girlfriend (later his wife), I had a string of boyfriends and then a husband. Nothing went on whilst we were married . Both our marriages went to the wall and we resumed our usual on-off thing not long after. He was initially móre keen on a relationship than me (I had no trust at all and was very disinclined to get hurt), then it briefly aligned, then I was more keen than him, although we have always remained capable of being very good friends who get on like a house on fire and have the most incredible sex. We are less good at maintaining emotional closeness. He's flaky, I don't trust him - blurgh. It's no good for me. I've been through this cycle (with him) about 10 times.

Currently, despite me having tried to end it 3 times, we are back to our usual 'friends with benefits' situation. We text pretty frequently, meet up, have a brilliant time, have great sex, then it drops off again. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the brilliant sex element suits him very well.

We are both going through messy divorces, we both have young children and careers and we live 100 miles apart. It was never going to be easy. My ex husband hates him and blames him for our marriage ending: actually, I was entirely faithful and the end was nothing to do with the OM, but I did fall back to him pretty soon after the marriage ended. OM's ex wife hates me, with more reason: there was something going on during their pre-marriage relationship (2002-2004), I thought they were going to end, because he seemed so unhappy and I couldn't imagine why he could do that and still be with me from time to time, but - hey - that speaks volumes about him. His ex discovered this after they got married. So no one can blame her for giving him absolute shit about me.

I never usually find it difficult to 'call' a situation, but I cannot bloody well get myself out of this. I think it's for the following reasons:

a) It's been over 10 years. Although we haven't ever really had a proper, functioning relationship, we have been in the background of each other's lives for a long time. We just seem able to adapt and change and carry on. I feel manipulated in some ways, but I am choosing to carry on. I could stop.

b) If I could pick any man to be with, it would be him. It irritates the hell out of me because he's so bloody flaky emotionally, but he's also funny, clever, capable, kind and I fancy the arse off him. I call it 'love' bceause it is so stupidly enduring, but I don't kid myself that it's a very healthy emotion. But - shit - if he would just be with me, I would never want anyone else. That is incredibly humiliating, because it's evidently not reciprocated.

c) He won't let me go. He always wants to resume the relationship (at the current level) and, because I basically do want to be with him more than anyone else, I end up going back.

d) I retain some hope that it might work out, one day. The current situation is very difficult, so it's tempting to blame that. But I KNOW he's fucking useless and will never be there for me. Dammit, though, he is under my skin. I don't want anyone else. I'd rather be single. I am single, really, with the occasional rations, which is why it's difficult to say no when he resumes contact after I've told him to bugger off.

e) Because of the above reasons, I never really open myself up to the opportunity of meeting anyone else.

That was so long. Thank you for reading, if you did. It's helped to write it, anyway :)

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mercury7 · 06/07/2012 22:33

eww those websites are cringy ...toe curling venus and mars confused cod psychology bullshitConfused

blusha · 06/07/2012 22:37

You read them quickly! Shock Wink

Tambasher · 06/07/2012 22:45

I've read them and in the end they all want money tbh! Smile

I even have the catch him and keep him one emailing me bloody tips Grin

Hmm Maybe I should have paid more attention

blusha · 06/07/2012 22:49

I thought they were quite good, just wanted to help!

Tambasher · 06/07/2012 22:56

Yuo have helped!! I just happen to have came across these whilst trying to self help Grin

mercury7 · 06/07/2012 23:01

blusha I'm sure you do want to help people:)
but really those sites are (imo) very clichéd and tend to promote the idea that a womans most important mission in life is to find a way to get her man to commit to her

mercury7 · 06/07/2012 23:03

and we're back to the old stereotype that to be valid you need to be part of a couple

blusha · 06/07/2012 23:05

Erm no, they're more about you need to put yourself first in your life and not put a man first.

I don't subscribe to the stereotypes you mention at all.

blusha · 06/07/2012 23:08

I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to learn what might work in a relationship, especially if your past relationships have gone a bit wrong.

mercury7 · 06/07/2012 23:10

really?
really??

' Find out what a man needs in order to fall head over heels in love with you'
'Find out how to feel so relaxed, confident and happy inside that he absolutely CRAVES being with you?'
'What does it take for a man to want to RISK EVERYTHING to be with you?'
' Find out how to talk to a man so he'll listen'

sounds to me like it's about making the mans needs the focus of your life

mercury7 · 06/07/2012 23:11

women it's codswallop
ffs!

Tambasher · 06/07/2012 23:12

Oh I was so not just reading that

General idea is to back off I think

Tambasher · 06/07/2012 23:13

Actually

Confused Grin

no chasing no non chasing just forgetting!!

blusha · 06/07/2012 23:16

Well you'd only be reading it if you wanted to learn some tips but I guess it's not for everyone. I read it with an open mind, but sneer if you will! Most of it is about self esteem and to not chase men because it's off putting. That's what I got from it anyway.

blusha · 06/07/2012 23:17

I quite like self help books / websites nowadays!

Tambasher · 06/07/2012 23:23

I like some of them too, they can be helpful, when you have nowhere to turn to for advice.

fizzfiend · 07/07/2012 06:44

sorry for not paying attention...it took me probably about a year to go from in my head all the time to rarely think of him. Have to say it feels liberating although a little bit of me misses my twirly head, excitable stage.

calibri · 07/07/2012 09:00

Fizz - so a year!? Ok ...

Winter's going to be shitty, isn't it??

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calibri · 07/07/2012 09:02

But I am amused to hear that Silverstone is a nightmare this year ... I am truly sorry for the other 39,999 people, but laughing up my sleeve at the thought of Shitty Pants having to deal with it.

£1500 on tickets. The man who still hasn't paid back £50.

I hope his stupid car sinks in the mud, frankly.

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Tressy · 07/07/2012 11:58

Will catch up later as I'm going out but just got to a post by calibri, have we been dating the same guy? Grin. I wouldn't be surprised as he had a harem on the go.

Tambasher · 07/07/2012 11:59

~SO I am on my undercover person on dating site S is on I am sending him lots of you fuckingbastard vibes and get text "sorry I am not being ignorant just stoned".... yeah sure right I will play your stupid games.

Tambasher · 07/07/2012 13:00

He is not looking for a relationship..... I knew that! What to say...

Tambasher · 07/07/2012 15:21

This is good actually the more he texts me the more I go off him. I might even agree the meet him then stand him up! Take that you randy man!

Tressy · 07/07/2012 18:53

Blusha, if you are still around what should I have done, according to your websites, when my non committal man went on holiday with another girl 'mate' and expected me to think it was OK to do so. I didn't back off, I walked out and told him it was over.

Not being sarcastic, although it might come across as this, I'm seriously interested in what I should have done. Confused.

Going to me a long night for me we had something special penciled in Sad.

Tressy · 07/07/2012 18:53

be not 'me'.

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