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christmas\new baby\pils -aargh

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shinyblackgrape · 17/06/2012 21:57

DH and I got married last year. We are expecting our first DC at the end of November. So, unless born on the due date, DC will be two - three weeks at Christmas.

When we got married, we agreed to spend alternate Christmases with our respective families. Last year was with my Parents as my mum and dad hosted our whole family last year. They do alternate years. My DSis is married too and has the same arrangements with her husband's family so we went last year to make sure we tied in with the year DSis was there toon

Obviously, we will have a very small baby this year. PILS live about 3 hours away. They live in a very nice house. However, it is small in thatbDH has to sleep in the lounge when we visit. I'm in a single room and there is only one bathroom

DH is very anal about the time spent with both families and wants to make sure it is exactly equal. Which I find a bit wearing to be honest. I had a great relationship with my grandparents (both sets) and saw them roughly equally but sometimes I saw one set slightly more than the other and vice versa - it was the natural ebb and flow. However, I don't remember anyone keeping notes or scores.

This year it is our turn to visit DH's parents. DH brought this up tonight and Ive said to him that I really don't think this will be feasible. I'll be establishing breast feeding, the baby will only be 2-3 weeks old and if I've had a c section to a rough birth, I could still be in pain.

I've proposed as an alternative that the PILs come here with sis in law as we have much more room and I'll be settled. I normally love cooking but I've said I won't be up to it so we will need to go out to eat. Which makes me a bit sad but MIL is not a good cook and PILs are of the variety who like to be "entertained" so don't do anything to help when they visit.

DH is furious, thinks I am being completely unfair, has said that both sets of grandparents (around85+) would need to come too - even though they don't spend Christmas with the PILs but are visited as they are very infirm. they would not manage our house well as it has lots of stairs and we only have 4 bedrooms.

I was hoping to suggest that my parents came too as they are a huge help and my mum would be able to do the coking some we could all stay at home at least. Howeverx, due to the reaction re the PILs, I've not. DH is now saying that we will discuss it nearer the time and he's sure I will be fit to go er etc. we don't go this year, we have to go the next year (which would have been the year with my family so could have seen my sister - so will never get to,spend Christmas with her, my nephew and bil ever again due to rotation)

I'm verging between anger and tears. I've always been good at sticking up for myself but now I'm pregnant, I actually feel incredibly vulnerable and almost scared about all this stress at a time when I really won't want it.

I also (perhaps stupidly) feel very let down by DH. I had hoped that his first thought would have been to domwhatbwas best for me and the baby. But it's not. It's to do what he thinks is fairest for my family as he calls them. Interestingly, DC and I don't form part of that grouping which I also find incredibly hurtful too

Do any of you have any tips how to resolve this. I can see it becoming an increasing problem through DC's life. DH, to be fair, is normally reasonable and rationale but this is a real hot button. Any attempts to discuss things are met with accusations of me trying to stop him seeing his family etc.

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Xales · 19/06/2012 22:15

I agree Clam don't think I would be hanging around with a man who warned me and allowed me.

Poor OP is the one stuck pregnant with this guy. Sad

Rowanhart · 20/06/2012 00:48

This is so bizarre. I'm due in November following a wedding last summer largely organised by my Mum. I've also had the Christmas day discussion with hubby today...

We're staying at home but my Mum (I'm only child of a single parent) will cook the dinner while we pop to his parents for an hour with baby (they live 20 mins away)

However, I did start with I didn't want to leave house which DH said he thought was unreasonable as he wanted to see his family too Christmas day. His mam cooks for the entire family so he says she won't have time to come to us for a visit. So I've relented.

At the risk of setting off your hormones (I hear you...) can I make a suggestion?

  1. this Christmas at home.
  2. next Christmas with his family.
  3. Christmas after at home.
  4. back to your Mams in sync with sister.

I know that feels a long way off before you're with your Mum. But look at it this way; the first two Christmases where your baby will really be aware and excited will be at home and with your Mum if you do that.

Altough there is another option. Sprnd every christmas at home from now on.

I will never be having Christmas lunch away from our house again. We did it just the two of us for our first Christmas as a married couple with mum spending with the grandparents and my aunty and nieces who she's really close to (and whom I've always had dinner with growing up...) It was my mum's idea. But she stayed Christmas Eve and we had brekkie together and then popped over DH mums for an hour before coming home and making dinner together. Didn't eat until 6pm but got squiffy on sparky and distracted ;-).

We've also decided we're doing Christmas dinner instead of lunch from now on as it's more relaxed to have it later- particularly to fit in visits...

blackcurrants · 22/06/2012 13:26

I hope you're ok, shiney - I was thinking about you last night, hoping you've got things sorted to your satisfaction.

I'm so bloody emotional at the moment, and was having a sobfest about something (really quite minor) - and it made me think "oh god, Poor Shiney having to deal with something actually upsettting!"

How are you feeling today?

MrsLetch · 23/06/2012 20:15

Having had two November babies, there's no way I would have done 3 hour round trips with my baby at Christmas. I just wasn't together in that way.

Personally, If I were in your position, I would have respected my Dh's desire to go to his parent's at Christmas... But would have made it clear there was no way I would be bullied into going. He can go, but he goes alone. (or he can stay at home and invite his folks over - his choice entirely).

As for the threat that he'd stop you seeing your family? Take the wind out of his sails and say in that case you're happy to stay at home every Christmas from now on. That way it stays fair and no-one gets the children. I bet he'd back down soon enough.

At the end of the day, he can't force you into the car - so all you need to do is to make that clear to him. You're not going. How he responds or reacts to that is his decision and you'll respect his decisions.... As he should respect yours!

MissPants · 24/06/2012 10:44

I had DD3 on 14 Dec and had similar discussions about Christmas with DH and MiL, all disagreements were rather suddenly resolved when having had visitors every day for the entire first week post birth I was standing once again trying to explain to MiL and FiL why we would prefer to have the day at home when a huge clot fell down my trouser leg and unceremoniously dumped itself on my slipper. After several moments of horrified silence I turned to DH and said "that's why!" and shuffled off to the bathroom. Mortifying, but it did the trick.

I feel for you OP!

WinkyWinkola · 24/06/2012 12:34

Selfish swine. All this brouhaha about Christmas when a woman has just had a baby. Pathetic and childish.

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