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ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:14

I'm fully expecting a flaming...this will be long.

I've spent many months lurking and reading the posts about all the affairs and suspected affairs and to be honest, it's helped me get over my own hurt. It's not often that the OW perspective is aired and I wanted to just let you all know that we're not all evil home-wreckers. There are always two sides to the story.

I had a male friend at work. We were good friends for quite a long time - nothing more in it. Then one day, out of the blue, he confessed that he'd fallen for me. I was gobsmacked, hadn't seen it coming and immediately distanced myself - I was angry with him as I didn't know what he wanted me to do with that information as a) he was married and b) I'd never thought of him like that.

I had a lot of time invested in our friendship and knew him well (albeit only at work) and knew he wasn't the typical straying type. I considered him a genuine friend so over time we talked it through. He confided that he felt that his marriage had broken down and that he'd been wanting to leave for at least two years (they'd been married for 8, had married young, no kids and it had descended into something platonic). He was terrified of leaving as he knew his wife was still in love with him and would be very hurt. His whole adult life, his family and all his friends were wrapped up with her.

For months we tried to put the situation behind us and carry on as normal but he told me that for the first time, he knew that he had to leave as if was capable of feeling the feelings he had for me there was no way back to fix his marriage.

We became closer and I started to develop feelings for him but still nothing happened between us. Then he told me that he was going to tell her that it was over. I was away and didn't see him for a week and when I came back he said he'd told her that he wanted out and that the 'wheels were in motion'. It was then that our affair began. We fell deeply in love.

With hindsight this was my biggest mistake and greatest regret. Long story short she was devastated, he couldn't go through with the pain he was causing her and for the next two years we had an on/off relationship (while managing somehow to have a consistent friendship) while he tried to extricate himself from the situation.

Then she found out. He cut me out of his life 'temporarily' while he 'sorted things out' (by this point we no longer worked together). I waited 3 months before seeing the light and telling him that it would never happen and that it was over. 4 months after that he left her. It was too late for us. There had been too much pain caused.

He was the love of my life. I still miss our friendship. I've felt the worst pain of my life over this.

My point to this story? I never planned to fall for him although I accept that I made some bad judgements and got in over my head emotionally. I've spent the last two years regretting what happened. I dream about his (now ex) wife often and want nothing more than to contact her to apologise for the part I played in her hurt - but I know that would just be indulgent and of no value to her when she's trying to move on.

My genuine belief is that if all was well in a marriage there would be no reason for a man to find solace/confidantes elsewhere. My advice? Talk about your concerns with your DH - before things get to the point that you can't communicate anymore.

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sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:21

'sugar - you do make me laugh, some of the things you have come out with are simply based on self delusion, fantasy and lies.
But its not surprising as those in affairs are not only lying to others but also and most of all to themselves.
As soon as your affair bubble burst, you will see for yourself what the reality is - that is if you have the emotional intelligence to be able to do this.'

Mad you talk about me as if you know me and my situation whereas the truth is you know absolutely nothing about it and really should just butt out. Fyi my affair bubble did burst in a very big way around this time last year so if I hadn't already known what the 'reality' was I certainly found out then. I have emotional intelligence in spades so stop judging me and my situation when you really are not qualified to do so now are you?
You see the bubble 'burst' but hey here we are me and OM still going strong
so that ruins your little theory now doesn't it? which came out of a book no doubt.

AnyFucker · 12/06/2012 23:22

I don't post with any expectation that people will "kow tow" to me, MM

I give my opinion, when there is an invitation to do so

OP invited opinion, or why did she post ? Why does anyone post on here ? If I (or anyone) was walking up to random people on the street to give their two penneth worth, you might have a point.

ImNot40Yet · 12/06/2012 23:23

Sarahseashell wants to talk about misogyny: sorry, remind me where it is in the code of MN that says it is okay to call people c*nts? Whoever that was...can't be bothered to go back and look. It's all there for those with nothing better to do.

AnyFucker · 12/06/2012 23:24

Do you also go by another name including the number 40 within it, 40 ?

sarahseashell · 12/06/2012 23:24

AF is forthright and speaks her mind, but in the context of a healthy debate. I've seen her on many occasions take on other peoples opinions and viewpoints. IMO her advice comes from a good place and predominantly from caring about women

The nastiness displayed by some OW on here seems to come from a place of hating women. Or maybe they hate themselves. Whatever. But its not condusive to a healthy debate and is hardly painting affair participants in a good light either Hmm

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:25

'Long time lurker etc etc....clearly MN is far from representative considering the percentage of women and men allegedly having affairs. I have known several people who have had affairs and every one of them (women and men) have been in shit miserable marriages. IME it is rare that affairs exist in happy marriages and who the fuck is Shirley Glass anyway? (self help books give me the shits)
I'm sure many of you will be frothing at the mouth over this but life is too short and if you are trapped (for any number of different valid reasons) in a loveless lonely relationship and you are able to get comfort and some happiness elsewhere then go for it, I won't judge. The happiest couples I know are on their second marriages. Apologies but I don't know any serial adulterers and I also believe it is perfectly possible for someone to be unfaithful only once;I have also seen affairs turn into successful happy long term relationships.
It is easier on the ego to blame others and undoubtedly there are many people who have had the misfortune to marry or partner with those of narcissistic or psychotic personalities but to drag out the old cliche, life is not black or white.
On a slight tangent, I have spoken to many elderly women who sacrificed their happiness for their husband or children. Was it worth it? No.'

Hahaha just seen this post above my MouldyMidge... at last someones sees sense thank gawd for that!!

ImNot40Yet · 12/06/2012 23:26

No I don't, AF.

sarahseashell · 12/06/2012 23:27

and good luck with your man sugarsprinkles you sound well suited

I'mnot40yet I would reply to that but expect you're too busy off doing your better things to do you keep being about to be doing Smile

Houseofplain · 12/06/2012 23:28

There you go again 40, you can't help it. People who are posting "have nothing better to do". Why are you here?

How many times now have you told the no lifers, with nothing better to do. That is it you really are done now as you have a life to lead, better things to do, won't be back. Whilst throwing snidey digs in?

One person out of how many sees sensen SS? Cliche or what. I'm not sure if you are deliberately trying to be so cliche as a wind up....or it really is an infallible script/character trait, that without fail, ends up as affair.

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:29

oh dear sarah... OW do not hate women or themselves... maybe they just love men a little too much do you think? Wink

ImNot40Yet · 12/06/2012 23:29

No, I am reluctantly still here.....

arthriticfingers · 12/06/2012 23:29

Let us all then agree to differ. To those who wish I leave you with the advice given by a counselor at the American Institute of Family Relations in the 1950s to a woman whose husband had an affair after 27 years of marriage:

<span class="italic">We have found in our experience, that when a husband leaves his home, he may be seeking refuge from an unpleasant environment. Could it be that your husband feels that he is not understood or appreciated in his own home? What might there be in your relations to him that could make him feel that way? Could you have stressed your contribution to your marriage in such a manner as to have belittled the part he has played and thus made him uncomfortable in his presence?</span>

Sisters, I suggest the rest of us retire to bed - with or without company as we choose. We will live to ignore what cannot be changed fight another day.

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:29

good luck with yours too sarah... do you have one btw?

Ilovemyteddy · 12/06/2012 23:35

I missed the post from MouldyMidge quoted by sugarsprinkles above.

I have known several people who have had affairs and all bar one of them were in happy marriages - including myself (and no, I am not deluded about how happy my marriage was and is.)

So who's opinion/experience is more valid? Mine or Mouldys ?

Surely what that illustrates is that affairs happen to all sorts of people in all sorts of situations. Therefore OPs original premise that DWs need to work harder to stop their DHs straying is, as has been pointed out on here, a
crock of shit an opinion that many posters find objectionable.

AnyFucker · 12/06/2012 23:37

sugar you make "your man" sound like a cocker spaniel

or like the latest consumer miust-have, like an I-pad

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:38

Anyone remember WWIFN? she used to go on about all this stuff
then she disappeared........ or did she

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:40

AF you are talking rubbish again I have not said one thing that made him sound like a spaniel... all I said was still going strong?

Houseofplain · 12/06/2012 23:40

Ohhh here we go.......The claws are out.

"Sarah do you have one btw".

Obviously being someones shagpiece whilst stuck in an unhappy marriage is much better than being single. They have seen your lone parent posting history I expect. NASTY.

You do have a man don't you Sarah?!?! You need a man Sarah, they are such a prize.

Would be funny if it was not such a tragic, weak, pathetic cliche.

What nasty pieces of work these ows are proving to be, proving quite a lot about serial cheats. Nasty.

sarahseashell · 12/06/2012 23:42

no I don't sugar - perhaps I just don't 'love' them enough to shag someone else's husband but I have plenty of offers thanks Wink

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:45

Do you know what HOP there is no hope for you...
I was responding to a barbed comment that Sarah made to ME first and actually amazingly I was trying to be light hearted. I did not mean anyone needs a man or anything along those lines. I am not a serial cheat nor a nasty piece of work and if you continue to insult me when you know nothing but nothing about me I will report you
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AnyFucker · 12/06/2012 23:45

sugar, don't bring an ex-poster who is no longer here into this

are you a name-changer, btw ?

I do wish people would be honest on here.

No wonder OW's feel they cannot post on MN, there are a small minority of them that give the rest a bad name.

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:46

that was a joke sarah
lost on you obviously

sugarsprinkles · 12/06/2012 23:47

why shouldn't I bring her up AF it's a message board fgs!
she is probably still her under a different name anyway

AnyFucker · 12/06/2012 23:48

as you are, obvioulsy

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