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men who got to prostitutes

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jake42 · 21/05/2012 12:26

Hello .
ive been reading all the threads on here about guys who visit escorts/ prostitutes/ whores etc , and i know im probably going to be called all sorts of names as its mainly a womans site, but i thought id write and tell my tale.

42 year old male , married for some 15 years, adore my wife and child and my family life . i want to get old with her .
just after our marriage one evening after sex ,whilst cuddling in bed , she says ive been thinking, we dont have to do sex, we love each other , lets live together like a brother and sister ! WTF im thinking, whats bought this on, nothing i could say or do would change her mind, we had sex very infrequently after , mainly to try for a baby. once said baby was born , she obviously was tired most of the time and eventually moved into the spare room blaming tiredness and my snoring (i do snore, but not that bad) . that was around 10 years ago and is still there now. We may of had sex 6 or 7 times since, im never allowed the pleasure of oral sex either way ,sex is always at my request, but always with the feeling that she just wants me to come and finish.
i adore her and cant imagine life without her, but the thought of no sex or hardly any doesnt appeal to me at all.
so after being knocked back one time too many i visited a site where Escort girls advertised and agreed to meet one .
i have been discreetly seeing different ones for around 5 years, always take every precaution and making sure my wife does not catch anything.
im basically between a rock and a hard place, i need to have sex , my wife doesnt, we love each other , i dont want to leave her , she , i assume doesnt want us to split up . but i cant imagine life for another 30 yrs with out sexual contact. i kind of figure that paying for it off a prostitute is better than having an affair, which as i love my wife would be out of the question.
i would be glad if anyone out there could perhaps in someway give me some advice . oh and im not a woman hater , i adore female company more than male .

OP posts:
tadpoles · 24/05/2012 11:33

"Is it really better to cheat than leave a marriage that is unfulfilling?"

No but some people want to live full time with their children, and if they get divorced then they won't be able to do that. Plus it sounds as though he loves her and the only bit that is missing is sex.

Plus divorce is not a picnic.

Also, the OP did not HAVE to admit to paying for sex. I mean, presumably most people don't. He could have lied, and just written that his wife has withdrawn sex and what should he do?

"but if she was honest she'd say this to him BEFORE agreeing to marry him" yes, but then he probably wouldn't have married her.

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:34

No, perhaps not easy to leave someone you love. However, a man who really loved his wife would be honest with her. A man who loved his wife wouldn't cheat on her. A man who loved his wife wouldn't put her health at risk by sleeping with prostitutes and, albeit rarely, sleeping with his wife.

He can say he loves her until he is blue in the face but these are not the actions of a man in love.

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:35

A woman who loved her husband would not want to live like a sibling with him.

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:37

But they didn't have children when she said this Tadpoles so he could have left then. He could have refused to bring children into a sexless marriage.

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:39

Again retromom, how is it that two wrongs make a right?

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:40

It's not that two wrongs make a right, it's that some of you chose to ignore that the wife wronged Jake. I was just pointing that out.

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:43

ComradeJing, you are quick to question Jake's love for his wife yet you don't like that I point out the same argument concerning her? Why is that?

ShirleyKnot · 24/05/2012 11:43

Then he should have left. The wife is not being given that choice is she?

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:44

Just like you seem to be ignoring the fact that he is lying, cheating and putting her health at risk.

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:44

Shirley, join the rest of them in ignoring just how easy it is for anyone to walk out on their family!

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:45

He's not putting her at health risk. She doesn't sleep with him!

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:48

Look RetroMom, I don't think a sexless marriage is a good thing. I don't think it is healthy or necessarily a sign of a good marriage. If it were me I would be concerned that it meant that my DH wasn't in love with me.

However, she spoke to him about it. She gave him the facts and by doing so gave him the opportunity to speak up or leave.

He is lying, cheating and putting her health at risk. Why won't you acknowledge that what he is doing is far worse?

ShirleyKnot · 24/05/2012 11:48

You seem to be confused. If he tells his wife that he's been having sex with prostitutes and she'#s fine with that then that's her choice to stay.

Doi you understand?

NickettyNacketty · 24/05/2012 11:50

The wife is being honest and upfront. You should be too. You have the choice of what to do now- stay and deal with it, openly and honestly, or leave and find what you need with someone else. If you tell your wife what you do then she has that choice to make too.

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:50

He's been sleeping with other women for 5 years. Condoms are not foolproof against STDs. If they haven't had sex in 5 years then I'm happy to recant my "health at risk" statement.

The rest of it stands though. He is lying and cheating. IS that really equally as bad as refusing sex?

doormat · 24/05/2012 11:50

erm why cant the wife leave...she is the one that changed the goalposts...she is the one that doesnt want to have sex with him...she is the one that wants to live like brother and sister....

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:53

Comradejing, she didn't give him a choice when she told him she wanted to live like brother and sister. He felt he had no choice. My DP read this thread yesterday and related to Jake's issue regarding a sexless marriage, and that's how he felt when his wife turned off sex too. He didn't feel he had a choice. He didn't want to break up his children's home life. He felt trapped into something he didn't want. Can you acknowledge that those feelings are valid?

Shirley, sometimes before a choice is made the panic sets in. As I explained above, the men feel trapped more than they feel they are facing an ultimatum of leave or stay.

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:54

Good point Doormat!

midwife99 · 24/05/2012 11:55

Jake I think you should tell her what you've been doing & insist on psycho sexual couples counselling. This situation isn't fair to anyone. I do understand that you want her not prostitutes really & I don't think you should be flamed for having gone down that route even though 10 years ago you should have insisted on the counselling instead. If she's a Christian there are passages in the bible about the Christian duty of husbands & wives to honour each other with their bodies (ducks to avoid buns) so she has a duty to at least address this issue & find out why she doesn't want to make love with you, for that's what it is after all. It's time to get it all out in the open so you can jointly decide on the way forward.

ComradeJing · 24/05/2012 11:55

The wife could leave - if he was honest about what he needed from the relationship she could choose to leave or stay and accept his use of prostitutes.

Since he isn't honest (like she has been) then why should she leave if she assumes they are both fine with the way things are?

RetroMom · 24/05/2012 11:55

And I don't believe the wife is being honest and true by announcing sex is no longer on yet not removing herself from the relationship!

HotBurrito1 · 24/05/2012 11:57

She doesn't know he is shagging prostitutes, doormat. If she did, she might.

MissFaversham · 24/05/2012 12:01

If I were his wife I would probably know he was getting sex elsewhere anyway due to me not being naive.

ShirleyKnot · 24/05/2012 12:01

It's tedious trying to explain this again.

Wife - has decided sex is off the table (as an autonoymous human being she is entitled to make this decision and deal with whatever consequences may spring from this CHOICE) She tells her husband.

He has a choice. Stay in the relationship, leave the relationship, tell the wife he will now be raping having sex with prostitutes and/or having an affair or whatever he wants WRT to getting his sexual desires met.

Instead, he doesn't extend the same respect to his wife that she has shown to him and does what he does without informing her. Robbing her of any choice she might decide to make, which is either stay in the relationshiop and turn a blind eye, or leave.

doormat · 24/05/2012 12:02

comrade "Since he isn't honest (like she has been) then why should she leave if she assumes they are both fine with the way things are?"

well she certainly has been honest ever since that wedding band was put on a finger...why couldnt she do it before and not entrap this fella i do not know...

imo it is her that should be leaving....she changed the goalposts and this fella has done whatever he can to try and salvage a relationship that his wife has called the shots on........

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