Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Have a go at Dadslib.... ...pillock!

361 replies

dadslib · 02/12/2003 13:04

Message withdrawn

OP posts:
M2T · 03/12/2003 13:20

Ok then... the second... you beat me to it Sobernow!

Blu · 03/12/2003 13:21

M2T: Even Dadslib wasn't provoked by that!! :0 He went straight to the serious bit...isn't Relate the new branding of the old Marriage Guidance Service?Nice one, DL. Can you get the prof guy back privately, i wonder?

Also, how IS your job, is it still looking insecure?

Beetroot · 03/12/2003 13:22

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

M2T · 03/12/2003 13:22

GRRRRRR GOD YOU MAKE ME ANGRY!!

How do you expect people to help you when you have probably just shown prejudice to 75% of Mumsnetters.

Go away DL and learn to stop provoking people. No wonder you wife doesn't want to talk to you. You do not come across as a very nice person.

Sorry DL I tried to stick up for you.... but FOR FUCK SAKE!

Blu · 03/12/2003 13:23

Wasn't provoked by the 'lose weight' line, I meant, M2T. I WAS joking......

M2T · 03/12/2003 13:25

I know Blu - Our posts crossed anyway.

The title of this thread I believe is now apt!

DL made sure of it. This is a form of attention seeking that is most pathetic.

jmg · 03/12/2003 13:31

I gave up posting earlier this morning - despite getting fairly into this debate yesterday. I just think DL is being deliberately obtuse and having a bit of fun at winding us up and pitting us against each other.

I don't think he's worth it frankly!

He can supperate in the hell of a marriage that is his own making. Poor child though

lazyeye · 03/12/2003 13:34

I dunno - I'm loathe to enter all this, but although there seems little excuse for the comment re counsellors, it has always struck me that DL sometimes frames things very badly - doesn't quite come across right, or too haughty or something. Its hard to sometimes put down on 'paper' what we are really trying to say. DL sometimes sounds like he is struggling to say what he means. What did you mean DL?

Not trying to be provocative, maybe just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt..............

dadslib · 03/12/2003 13:36

Message withdrawn

OP posts:
M2T · 03/12/2003 13:39

No excuse... that was disgusting. No DL.. we don't all know what 'type' you mean.

ThomCat · 03/12/2003 13:43

Oh Dadslib - I dispair. Why black and why lesbian? Possibly soem of the consellors you met came across as do-gooders. You said don't take this literally but that was still an offensive thing to say, and it was offensive amongst other things.

I think you may need to think more before you speak. Oh and keep up with the anger managment as I think there is an unlying aggression in a lot of what you say, or that's how it comes across and you could benefit from those classes, even if it means visualising traffic lights!!

dadslib · 03/12/2003 13:43

Message withdrawn

OP posts:
M2T · 03/12/2003 13:49

Yes you are right DL - I think this MORE than highlights the problems in your attitude! Putting "DOn't take this literally" at the beginning of a sentence doesn't make it any less offensive!

What has their race or sexuality got to do with ANYTHING????

ThomCat · 03/12/2003 13:51

M2T has echoed what i said a couple of posts down, I agree 100%.
Think before you speak, traffic lights at amber!

norma · 03/12/2003 13:55

My health visitor is lovely, but she fits DL's stereotype perfectly. Although not in any literal way. There are things I wouldn't even think of mentioning to her as she sometimes seems to be from another planet entirely.
I don't see anything offensive in a vivid written description which perfectly illustrates the point being made.

dadslib · 03/12/2003 13:59

Message withdrawn

OP posts:
aloha · 03/12/2003 14:02

DL - but lower down on this mammoth thread you said your DW did say the violence was a problem. You posted: "Quite a few here have homed in on the violence. My DW does that too. Am I missing something here." - er, yes!

I agree that your wife's 'silent treatment' and contempt must be intensely frustrating and is clearly destructive to your relationship. But a relationship with violence in it is never going to be an easy one to talk openly in, IMO. I think if you stop hitting her for good and forever then I think some other issues may be much easier to resolve. It is very hard to talk from the heart to someone you are a bit afraid of. It just is. Maybe she won't be any different but surely it's worth a try? Also she may register the swearing as violence. I do swear a bit - eg exclaiming things like bugger and bollocks when I drop something or lose something (ds says both now ) but I don't swear at my dh and I don't use stronger swear words regularly. My dh used to swear more when angry or irritated but I explained to him that I found it quite threatening and that it made him sound violent (he's totally non physically violent ) even though he wasn't swearing at me. He has drastically cut down on it. Just saying your DW isn't alone in this. She probably finds some of your humour very abrasive and uncomfortable to live with sometimes - you can see how it has repelled women here who were basically on your side. Words do matter. Gentle words, kind words, polite words and respectful words are a turn on for most women.

I'm not saying your wife is perfect - not at all - but you do I think have to commit to change yourself (I'm not talking about losing weight here) as part of the process of trying to save your marriage. Why not tell her you are sick of hurting her and her being afraid and that you aren't going to do it anymore. Offer to try to swear less and see what happens. Often one person's changing behaviour can provoke a change in the other person too.

aloha · 03/12/2003 14:07

I think Thomcat's absolutely bang on about the underlying aggression. I don't know you but there is something quite 'angry' about you even when you aren't being angry iyswim.
I think that may be why your DW wants you to cut down on the swearing, personally.
You don't have to be like this you know, you do have a choice. I also feel that you have very good qualities - and you clearly adore your son - but you sabotage yourself with flippancy and anger. It's such a shame.

M2T · 03/12/2003 14:07

Norma - You don't see anything wrong with stereoptyping Blacks and lesbians???? Are you serious??????

Hmm.... AM I missing something?

Beetroot · 03/12/2003 14:09

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

dinosaur · 03/12/2003 14:10

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

ks · 03/12/2003 14:10

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

M2T · 03/12/2003 14:13

Oh ks - that sums him up perfectly doesn't it!!

Straight in with 2 feet then steps back with a bewildered look wondering what all the fuss is about.

Lack of maturity perhaps?

ThomCat · 03/12/2003 14:15

Dadslib, dadslib, dadslib, you get worse! CRIPPLE! Please, man - think before you speak will you. Honest to God.
I wanted mumsnetters to try and help you but I'm beginning to think it's impossible for us to get there. Seriously - please stay at amber a bit longer - you're jumping the lights and be dangerous.

popsycal · 03/12/2003 14:16

could DL possibly be trying to get a reaction out of you?
please tell me if i am wrong...but i am just lurking around reading this thread...and just wondered
i apologise in advance if i am wrong...