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Welcome to the Turning Tavern III

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Crushinghard · 29/04/2012 08:27

A continuation of the TTII thread for women unexpectedly finding themselves attracted to other women.

OP posts:
Crushinghard · 29/04/2012 08:35

I'm hoping sleepless will be here soon to kick this new thread off with some news :)

OP posts:
zombiegames · 29/04/2012 08:51

Sleepless is too busy having fun with her WIQ to report in here Grin.

NimpyWindowmash · 29/04/2012 09:29

Very well put MumblingFanjoChops (previous thread)
blimey you guys were up late

Gay40 · 29/04/2012 11:04

Morning.
I feel like I've been given a bollocking by Likea.

MumblingFanjoChops · 29/04/2012 11:07

I have no time for sleep Zombie! I'm far too busy for that. :)
I don't think she meant to be harsh G40,I think she was just worried for Polly.We all want the best for each other.

Gay40 · 29/04/2012 11:33

Course we do. We can only speculate on what we read, after all.

HepHep · 29/04/2012 12:53

Wow, I missed the last few pages of the other thread, will catch up later. Just marking my place. Has sleepless not reported back yet? Grin

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 13:17

sleep - I hope everything's well after yesterday's party? unusual for you not to update. If not so well (in case you did try a kiss!), come for support.
Gay40 you seem to have a bit of a blind spot on polly's situation, so I got frustrated, but any bollocking is obviously not meant badly, even friends in rl tell each other off. Got annoyed that you keep defending wiq and go on to say how she can take all hte time she needs, swan in and out of polly's life, almost like boasting - without any thought for what kind of hell would this be putting polly through. She's out priority, not the wiq. The other thing is I really don't think women who turn take that long with one woman (2yrs in her case) to realise they are attracted, so the chances aer tiny that wiq suddenly gets attracted and act on it. Your Mrs didn't take 2yrs, and neither of us here took more than a few weeks to get strongly attracted when we met the woman who really attacts us! wiq states she's gay and she's a direct personality who know what she wants, yet you refuse to accept she may mean what she says. Just to explain my frustration.
But anyway polly did agree with the rest of us who advised to be direct (either by email or have one night of drinking and honest talking VERY soon, as she will be tying herself in knots if too long) so she's working on arranging that. Polly is an emotional character, not a laid back philosophical type like some, that has to be taken into consideration too.

Gay40 · 29/04/2012 13:17

No, but I think she has a morning arrangement

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 13:19

*states she's not gay

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 13:20

*who knows what she wants

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 13:24

Good morning all Smile

Likea it's really interesting that I come across as emotional on here but actually in RL I'm absolutely not, I am very laid-back which is probably too my detriment because it means I let things drag on for two years! Ahem. Unlike say sleep who's bang in there, and admits she's quite an emotions-led sort.
And I'm pretty philosophical too - I'm actuall a part-time philosophy student Grin.

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 13:25

See, that's my trouble, I think about things too much....

Gay40 · 29/04/2012 13:29

That's not actually what I said. I described the sort of person Polly's WIQ was - I didn't put this forward as an excuse, merely to say that fronting up in an email wouldn't be the best way forward, given WIQ's track record with emails and responding. I don't think I was defending the WIQ at all. But direct conversation in person, yes.
Nor do I think it is putting Polly through hell. I think she'd like something to happen, but I don't think she is sat at home chewing her nails to bits over it either - by her own admission she's got a lot going on with 3 children and the usual hoohahs of life.
I don't think I said how long it took MrsG but it was quite a while. Some women do take years, yes.
The reason I'm not convinced Polly's WIQis 100% straight is because Polly doesn't think so either. There is some intuition going on there which is difficult for us as words on a screen to interpret, but I get the impression Polly can feel some interest through the mixed messages.
I'd never advise anyone to pursue someone who blatantly wasn't interested and who had told them to back off.

Grrrrrr.

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 13:45

I think I replied on the last post that Gays summing up of how she sees WIQ was pretty accurate, and it's knowing how rubbish WIQ is at emails etc that made me decide spilling my all in an email would be a mistake. So I'm going to give her another day or two to see if she emails me, then take it from there - next step will be a straightforward 'right, let's arrange another drink' with intention of trying to talk more candidly with her then.

And if I felt there was no chance I would absolutely give her a wide berth. Flogging dead horses I do not do. There is something there or I'm a monkey's uncle Grin But whether there's enough 'something', or a 'something' she might possibly want to explore I don't know, and that's why I think I do need to bite the bullet and try to discuss with her soon-ish.

I've been feeling physically and emotionally (bad cold and dead friend) a bit crap this past week so maybe I've come across as a bit vulnerable, but really I'm not - I do appreciate your concern though Likea.

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 13:46

sorry, I mean I replied to Gays post about WIQ on the last thread...

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 14:24

I said two things about the Bolter on the previous thread last night -

To be fair, The Bolter is so laissez faire and disorganised she'll be late for her own funeral

and

And it did turn out she was waiting for her ex to move out before going for a drinkie with me, and that only happened 2 months ago

I think out all of the bumpf I've written over the past few weeks these are two sentences that sum up The Bolter's character and the circs of her suddenly 'perking up' towards me the best.

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 15:47

I also feel 'Grrr' about it, G40. I'm the one in the last few days who spent time on the thread (G you were not here), and it was all about polly's telling us how low she was, and how the whole thing with wiq is 'doing her head in' only yesterday. I call that emotional - if you call it something else the esssence is the same! not happy, tortured, waititng (yet again) for wiq to deign to reply - she hasn't replied yet to her last email with the phone number. Does this say 'keen', 'attracted' to you G? Polly I also dod philisophy degree but I'm talking about emotional persona; situations! you do not come across as calm with all the agonising 0 you say yourself you aer impatient, and for you the type that wiq is - is the worst as she 's too laid back and impulsive. You aer not laid back replying to HER emails. So let's not talk at cross purposes about how generallly laid bsck you are. It's ALWAYS polly who reminds and chaese with emails - how long of thos can she take?
I always said talking to her is best, have you missed this polly and G? email was an option if polly wasn't up to direct talk. What I am suggesting is that she doesn't give her time (which according to Gay40 wiq will need in bucketloads to turn - or NOT to turn). This is ALL I'm saying, as well as zombie and Mumbling. All i want is for her to know asap, as it's doing her head in, and ours as well as nothing is happening yet polly agonises every day, and if you missed all the days of agonising since their drink, then G, it's not my fault - do re read the end of last thread, the woman can't talk or think about anything else! I feel her pain if you don't. I said many times that if polly could be calm she can chase wiq for years, but she is not. Also G, you say some women take a lng time - not her type! I sussed her out as much as you did as far as personality, she is not the type not toknow what she wants this long! I'm not sayinjg she doesn't like the look of polly - i said that it could even be a thrill for her after becoming single, but it's not the type of overwhelming attarction that make women turn, and after two yrs this won't change. If there is a tiny chance that something stirred after that drink, then polly should ask now, and not waste time wondering while wiq takes weeks to even as much as see her again/reply to emails.

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 15:51

I also did say that possibly there is some woman somewhere who could turn wiq, if she's deluded thinking she's not gay, but I bet anything that she wouldn't take 2yrs noticing that flooring atraction! for straight women (I speak as one, and many others here) it's a big shock, it's not a lukewarm feeling which you can ignore or not, and she's free single, no kids, nothing wd have stopped that strong headed type if she was interested!

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 15:57

you know what a laid back philosophical approach wd be? 'let her reply in weeks time and ask me out, if she doesn't even give me her number, sod it, not meant to be..if she ever is interested she'll find me'. That's hardly how polly sounds. You need active approach with such people - ask them 'yes or no', if 'don;t know' I'm off, find me if you want.

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 16:00

Well yes it is true that I'm much more reliable/quick at replying to her emails but then that's how I am with everyone (I said this yesterday).

We're all agreed I need to speak to her, and I have decided I'm not going to do that via email, so I need to arrange to see her again. I've emailed her twice since Weds and I'm not happy to email her again so soon, unless she does email me in reply in the next day or so. So there's probably going to be a few days hiatus.

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 16:03

And I did say it was doing my head in with a Grin. Not .

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 16:13

well it was all you could talk about for the last few days (i waited in vain for replies to my questions ab wiq) but it was obviious that you were too preoccupied. What aer you trying to say now, polly - that you are cool about it? that you could wait even aday (still polite) to reply to her? I'd be only glad if you were, but you liked her for too long for me to bel;ieve this? also, I know how it feels!

likeatonneofbricks · 29/04/2012 16:14

this!

pollyblue · 29/04/2012 16:19

Likea sorry, did I miss one of your posts? I don't remember you asking any specific questions about WIQ.

I suppose I've been talking/thinking about it for the last few days because it was last Sat we went out.