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Gay40 · 09/04/2012 21:32

This is a thread for women who unexpectedly (or not) find themselves attracted to another woman.

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pollyblue · 17/04/2012 19:52

I now consider WIQ renamed the Titian Bolter Grin

Yes, will agree with Gay re your sterling defending last night Likea - I managed to squeak a couple of feeble 'I agree with Likea*s but you hung on in there, well done.

Anyhoo, funny you should ask Likea I was just popping on to ask you to place yer bets please - I haven't yet (there's a thing!) had a reply to my email to the Bolter (sent Sat eve). Last I heard was her initial 'where shall we go at the weekend?' email, sent Sat afternoon. Soooo, is it a bit premature to chase her up this evening or should I wait til tomorrow night? It's only tues after all. And I'm not impatient, oh no Just wondering if I should wax my legs or not Grin

Loveisthemessage · 17/04/2012 20:09

Chipping in with my tuppence ha'penny, I agree with Gay and Polly that Likea did really well with her exhaustive explanations from all the negativity and cross-examining. Well done everybody! Smile
The tavern seems to be very popular and has certainly got a few reactions which is no bad thing although I struggle to understand why people join a thread when they clearly don't like or approve of what's being said. Makes for more interesting coverage of the topic I guess.

Loveisthemessage · 17/04/2012 20:12

Ps I learnt an interesting fact - that kangaroos have 3 vaginas. Just thought I'd throw that into the mix Grin

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 20:14

loveis I'm tempted to ask how you learnt that but I don't think i want to know! Grin

sleeplessindenial · 17/04/2012 20:26

I really appreciate you all defending me and my morals

I am being totally out of order, I have text and said that I couldn't come on Thursday because I was to nervous about seeing her. She replied saying that it was fine, she understood and hopefully would see me soon. And then text again saying that she would never stop being my friend just because I was honest with her, and then again saying how brave and strong I was to email her last night and she appreciated it.

And I haven't text, emailed or answered her calls BlushSad

I just don't know what to say to her. I know I am hurting her by hiding away though. She said if I asked her not to contact her then she would respect that but really hoped I wouldn't ask.

Polly, just go and ring her door bell Grin

Crushinghard · 17/04/2012 20:31

Wow, sleepless. A lot of development there. I do think you need to sort your home situation out as a priority though. Glad your WIQ is still happy to be friends though.

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 20:44

sleepless please answer her texts, even if it's just to say something like 'I'm really grateful you've taken it so well but I feel like a twit/embarrassed/very upset/whatever and think I need a day or two undisturbed to have a good think about things. But I promise I will be in touch.'

She's trying really hard to make sure you feel ok isn't she.

Re The Bolter Grin That would certainly get her attention!

CharlesXavier · 17/04/2012 20:46

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sleeplessindenial · 17/04/2012 20:48

I honestly would just turn up and knock her door, although as you can tell I'm like a bull in a china shop that fires off emails spilling my heart out in the middle of the night Grin

She has been brilliant as you know, your message is a good one, I might send that. What I really want to do is ask her over and obey if what she said in her 2nd/3rd emails is true I am being needy Smile

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 20:49

Hi Charles welcome to the thread Smile

No judging here (well, very little!) just lots of chat and tea or something a bit stronger if you prefer.

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 20:52

sleepless bull in a china shop, really?! would never have guessed Grin

Actually I think I could do with a bit of what you've got, I'm a bit too much the other way, too cautious and I tend to overthink things, so end up missing an opportunity or making a dogs dinner of one.

So in that vein, I would say ignore your urge to invite her over and take this opportunity to have a couple of days of calm and a good old think. But I won't think any less of you if you choose to ignore that...! Smile

Synchronicity · 17/04/2012 20:54

sleep sorry things are so hard for you now, although glad too that your WIQ will remain friends. I really sympathise with you if you are in a bad relationship, and speaking from the other side, although it is hard being a LP and lonely at times too, it is in some ways so much better.

loveis am boggling slightly at the kangaroos thing..!

Am feeling really sleepy this evening, long day and DC were playing up a bit at bedtime. I've ended up being awful and eating a dinner consisting of crackers and chocolate because I couldn't be bothered to cook and that was all that was in the house. I need to get in a stash of ready meals for days like today.

Have been thinking about joining online dating site, more to meet people rather than for romance per se, but for some reason it feels a bit wrong. Maybe it is too soon.

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 20:58

Synch I hit the choc tonight too - 2 of my dcs were buggering about at bedtime, one kept getting out of bed and I got really cross with her in the endSad. I can cope with a bit of badness early on in the day but after 12 hours on my feet I just haven't got the patience. Thankyou God for Dairy Milk is all I can say.

CharlesXavier · 17/04/2012 21:03

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Gay40 · 17/04/2012 21:07

Hi Charles, and welcome to the thread.

Please feel free to spout about your WIQ if it helps, or not if it doesn't and just join in.

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Synchronicity · 17/04/2012 21:09

Welcome Charles sorry, cross posted with you.

likeatonneofbricks · 17/04/2012 21:09

I am quite Blush about you thanking me, Loveis and polly, I just felt passionate about sleep's situation as I sense there is a something really worthwhile going on there (and had a ho at her as well not to ignore the woman - she hasn't thank God).
sleep I'd write on the lines what polly said, that you are very happy that she hasn't turned her back or laughed and for her heartfelt email, just explain that you need a few days to calm the nerves, but will see her as friends soon. I'm SO glad that sleep's woman is taking the lead a bit (I was hoping she would!).
Invite her over - it depends what was it that she said Grin, as she's no sex pest, then why not.. but only once you feel calmer. As i suspected she now has a new respect for you for the courage, so I'm sure she will make it comfortable for you knowing your embarrassement, she's obv a caaring type!
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likeatonneofbricks · 17/04/2012 21:12

Charles that's exactly how I'd feel of (for once) I was invuted to sgare the sofa with my wiq - terrified yet excited, stopping midway no doubt. Fortunately there is no pressure with sleep and her wiq as the wiq is not ready to be sexual (and sleep only a little ready) so they are not at the stage of testing the water.

likeatonneofbricks · 17/04/2012 21:13

if, not 'of'

likeatonneofbricks · 17/04/2012 21:15

*had a go at her

CharlesXavier · 17/04/2012 21:19

I am fully over my true WIQ mainly because there was a natural parting of the ways which means it is unlikely I will ever see her again. I don't know how I would have got on were that not the case. She did halt my world. I still couldn't breathe properly around her after 15 years of friendship- I really had it bad. Grin She is straight as a die though (I did check- in the end not very subtly) so it is for the best.

Does mean I lost a great friend too, but I do think it's easier for me.

I'm in the 'gently explore it' camp. No point being eternally coy if you really like someone. Anyone worth their salt won't reject you as a friend just because they didn't want involvement in the same way you did.

CharlesXavier · 17/04/2012 21:25

I know Likea, I wans't suggesting sleep should start edging down her sofa just yet. Just reminiscing really. You, on the other hand, get thee to the edge of the sofa! Wink

pollyblue · 17/04/2012 21:27

15 years Charles?! ye gods Grin

Gay40 · 17/04/2012 21:32

Polly will be fitting a slide to her sofa. I hope.

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HepHep · 17/04/2012 21:32

Welcome, Charles. Your straight friend who captured your heart sounds quite amazing. I sometimes think we all have one such person who we never entirely stop lusting after loving. I know EXACTLY what you mean about it being like a different need, the one for women as opposed to men. I think that's where I went wrong for so many years as I was looking for a comparable emotion/desire, but it's just different. So, so different.

sleepless definitely text her that message, it's ace and will keep her in the loop while giving you time to sort your head about and deal with your home situation/relationship.

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