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Devastated is an understatement

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redtulip68 · 11/03/2012 10:26

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation Starling. Unfortunately I'm in a very similiar position at the moment. My husband of 12 years left the marital home at 10.05pm last Sunday when myself and our two children were in bed. Not warning, nothing ran out in the night the coward he obviously is. The last week has been hell. i've had to tell the children because he only wanted to do it over the phone or in a pub, not in the safe environment of their home.

Apparently he had met some3one on line that he had connected with emotional - nothig sexual had occurred until after he left, or so he is saying. Over the last week I've heard nothing but lies and more lies. He has left the home in in such a state that part is uninhabitable. Environmental Health have been in contact due to the number of vehicles is has left in the garden, carport and other areas that we own surrounding the property. Since leaving I have found out that my wiring is condemned, the oven and hob are a danger to myself and my children. Cant have a bath unless a plunger is used to get plugs out. Had no hot water, could only have heating on for 30 minutes at a time, only flush toilets if someone contorlled the stop cock. Its been a nightmare. But he is living with someone and 'needing time to think what he needs over' whlst I live with two children in disarray.

Found we didnt have any contents or buildings insurance because he hadnt got round to setting up a new policy, bills were out of control because he hadnt got round to getting new quotes - I would have done it but evey bill was in his name at the time, obviously they arent now! Joint mortgage so thats ok.

Apparently will leave his income in my account for the next three months so I can arrange reapirs - what makes him think I can afford them now he has done? Then I'm to live off benefits - I've already established I'm only entitled to 10.43 per month. This is just so unfair, I really dont understand what I've done. he doesnt understand that our children deserve the truth rather than his web of lies which he now stating - I left beuuase we were arguing, 1 argument one night last week.

Visited children after I arranged it - 1 hour, then spoke to me for 2.5 hours, mean at the state but got better. I asked him to come back explained I still loved him and he said he would seriously think about it. He said that he still loved me but didnt think we could work it out because he has left.

Cant tell my family that I want him home bacuse they cant stand him, but I cant help the way I feel. its been made worse becauseof comments he keeps making on facebook which mean I then have to fiedl emails, messages and calls from joint friends and work colleagues. I know I'm having to do all his dirty work, clearing his stuff because he told me to, making calls left right and centre because that's what I'm expected to do.

refuses to give contactable address and often truns mobile phone off - so even in an emergancy I wouldnt be able to contact him.

cant sleep, havent eaten since our initial argument on 2nd march. i know deep down he isnt coming back but my children are young and own has AS. One hates their father, the other is in limbo becuase of promises father has made and subsequently not kept.

Nothing in my world is the same. I just dont know what I should be saying or feeling. Sick to the stomach of crying on my own. the pain is unbearable.

Please excuse the mistakes its just that really cant think straight. spoke this morning and asked if the comments he made yesterday about coming back were true or yet another one of the catelogue of lies he has told this week. Chidlren are lashing out at each other. But its not helped by their father telling them that he left because I was arguing rather than the truth that he was having an affair. There were several incidents this morning and I made him tell the truth but its still only part - now telling the children he is sharing a house with another woman. I just want to know where we all stand. Not lie after lie

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skyebluesapphire · 12/08/2012 19:14

bloody hell, I thought my life was a catalogue of errors, but yours sounds far worse :(

I am trying not to care about STBXH because I have to detach from what he does and let him sort his own life out from now on. It just worries me that if he gets into debt he wont be able to keep paying me maintenance and then i wont afford the mortgage.....

Im sure he does love your children, he is just trying to say things to hurt you

redtulip68 · 12/08/2012 21:46

When he called this evening I asked him about his comment which he denied immediately, then I was told that once again the Police have been involved in the letter and they think the sender is dangerous! But the truth is he hasnt been to the Police about the letter nor will he. He thinks that he can frighten me when I havent done anything.

Reced email from him saying he will only contact me via email in connection with the divorce but so far he has just emailed more threats - although he did say he wont speak to me anymore and will only collect the children from the house and not come in. Well there is always a positive!

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skyebluesapphire · 12/08/2012 23:09

Grin I never see my twunt now, I just open the door and DD goes out. She is quite happy and I figure less affected than if I was opening the door and scowling at him, lol.

Why would the sender be dangerous, what did it say? Just ignore him. If the Police come knocking then worry about it, lol. Just make sure you have hidden the pens and paper that you wrote it with Grin

seriously though, if you didnt write it, you have nothing to worry about. he's just being a twunt

Midwife99 · 17/08/2012 02:08

How are you doing honey?

redtulip68 · 20/08/2012 08:03

Well what an exciting few days I've had yet again - soap opera writers have nothing on me. No internet for a few days, which was kind of refreshing but once it started to work again what a surprise I had!

Email from OW stating that gift DD had bought DF was in bin, I has the biggest mistake of his life and that he wishes he had never met me - I assume that by association that mean if he'd had never met me we would never have had the DC. Well from his previous screaming t/c he did say that he didnt love them. That I'm mentally ill and that she is contacting my employers to tell them that.

I have ignored the email and have made no reference to it at all because I'm better than that.

In addition all my suspicions regarding the tailing off of interest in the children really has begun. Five week into the summer holidays and STBXH has seen the DC 4 times when he has contact twice a week - thats 6 short already! The daily telephone call has also lessen. Reasons so far have been -' I've forgotten', 'I fell asleep', 'I was busy' and the best 'well you could have called me'. All I can say is it is obvious that they are 'out of sight out of mind' as far as he is concerned. The sad side is that the children now take bets on whether he will call or not.

Still nothing as far as mediation is concerned. I've completed all my documentation but he is refusing to do anything that might cost money. I have no idea what is will pay after this month and I'm living in a state of stress and confusion. I can't plan anything, I cant get anything the DC need for school, although I have already spent £300 there is still more stuff they need - I know that sounds alot but at the end of last term they were down to one set of uniform and that was too small and we threw that away on the last day of term!

I've contacted CSA but they arent interested yet as he doesnt have a job and isnt signing on so if he doesnt have an income then they said there is nothing they can do - despite the fact that he works every weekend and gets cash in hand. they just said contact the tax office but that dont get me anywhere or provide my DC with an income.

Smile!

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skyebluesapphire · 20/08/2012 13:28

If you contact the tax office and they can tail him and prove he is working cash in hand, he will be in big trouble as will his employers. He will have to do a tax return then and then you will have proof of his income on record. Just a thought......

As for her calling your employers to say you are mentally ill, Ive seen something similar on a thread before, posted by the girlfriend and she was flamed and told she was mental. Maybe you could talk to your employer about it and ask if they received anything, that they refer it to the police?

I hope you are doing ok apart from all the crap!

My twunt has now decided that I live in a "shit place to get to" and maybe I could take DD to him sometimes! What planet does he live on??!!

redtulip68 · 20/08/2012 14:15

Oh Skye I had the same comment about living too far away when he first left but I quickly put paid to that one when I said that he had choosen the house and that we hadn't moved he had!

There are days when I really cant believe what has happened over the last 5 1/2 months. If this was a book or television programme I would be saying how far fetched it all seems but this is my life.......Wink

My other favourite of late is the fact that he says its very expensive visiting the children and taking them out, and how it costs him a lot of money to buy food and other stuff for himself. My response was short and straight to the point - 'I've got two children to consider' I repeated it about ten times and eventually he accepted that maybe I had more costs to cover.

Got a very busy week ahead to us this week - new flooring currently being laid in the kitchen, its only taken three months for the insurance company to confirm that they accepted the quotes. When its done I'll have just a bit of decroating and then its all finished. My house will be my own and the last piece of his adhoc decorating and useless furniture building will have gone. Yippee!!!!!

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skyebluesapphire · 20/08/2012 14:42

well done, it sounds like you are sorting things out well.

I just cant believe how he can suddenly go all "me me me" when before he would have done anything for his DD.

Im more and more sure that my twunt is mentally ill as he is acting so out of character!

redtulip68 · 20/08/2012 15:09

Mental healthwise - yes I know exactly what you mean. I really can't believe that someone could change so much in such a relatively short period of time.

STBXH was always selfish to be truthful. It was always his needs that had to be addressed first and if they werent he would sulk like a three year old - obviously something I dont miss! But I do miss someone to talk to at night, someone to share a bed with (nothing sexual just knowing someone is there - someone I could put my cold feet on on a winter's night).

What really made me laugh was when I started with my new counsellor and I explained the entire situation and he said '....and you're the sone seeking help! That doesnt seem right.'

There are4 days when I still feel very low and he is one my mind but I try to drag myself out of it because it has a really damaging affect on my DC and they are the only good things to have come out of this.

By the way my kitchen floor is down, just the utility to do tomorrow!!!

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Midwife99 · 20/08/2012 15:23

You sound really strong tulip & putting your kids first - good for you! Ignore all threats from twunt & OW! The only ones who will look mentally ill are them if they start making allegations!!

skyebluesapphire · 20/08/2012 15:53

PMSL. My counsellor said that my STBXH needs counselling. She said he is acting like a child. (Proven by all his pathetic emails this weekend!).

I know what you mean, I miss his presence sometimes, something happens and your first thought is ooh I must tell him..... then realise that you cant.

I am having mainly up days at the moment and hope it stays that way and Im sure you will too. We are on a very similar timetable, my STBXH left nearly 5 months ago now and it was 6 months ago that he first walked out.

I think we are both doing amazingly well.

Midwife99 · 20/08/2012 17:37

You are both doing well ........ Just need to let the anger go now if you can!

redtulip68 · 20/08/2012 19:30

I'm not angry anymore for myself I get angry when STBXH makes promises to the DC then doesnt follow them through. E.G. T/C this evening between him and DS 'Where do you want to go for dinner (well he said tea - very common!)tomorrow?" DS answered, STBXH said 'Well no you can go to McD' FFS why give him an option only to say where you are taking them! By the way he only took the DC to McD on Friday.

I can feel a discussion coming on - anyway when he takes them anywhere he sits there writing lists/comments in his notebook and taking t/c or texts, never speaking to the DC. Its all a waste of time!

As for me....my little home is coming along and I feel fine!

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skyebluesapphire · 20/08/2012 19:40

My STBXH takes DD to McD's every week and it really annoys me. When we were together we didnt even go there once a month and agreed that we didnt want her eating it every week!

I will let the anger go once the twunt has signed my house back to me...

redtulip68 · 21/08/2012 20:22

Well that was an exciting day....not! Utility room now finished and only have a few finishing touches to complete then NO MORE DECORATING, until next time!

Anyway that stupid man came to visit 'the biggest mistakes of his life' to quote OW, and what a drama occurred. DS didnt want to go but obviously that was my family's fault for telling him not to go - yeah right. DD then kicked off - STBXH blamed me for the fact that the DC didnt want to go with him. DS then changed his mind but DD spend almost an hour screaming and shouting that she hated him. But what we all need to bear in mind was last Friday when DD went somewhere she wanted to go she was all lovey dovey! I realise that this is all about playing one of us against the other but I'm the one who gets shouted out and accused.

STBXH was supposed to bring his half of the uniform costs but yet again failed to do so and now I'm skint beyond belief. I'm sick and tired of his behaviour towards me, he suggested a contact centre but bearing in mind he doesnt really speak to the Dc when he's with them that would be a disaster. During his visit today he spent twenty plus minutes in the garden watching the DC playing, not speaking and just playing on his phone answering texts.

To draw matters to a close its fair to say that the visits are not improving. I today swear that I will nolonger engage in any form of conversation with him. The children will be ready on the doorstep, if they kick off about going with him he will have to deal with it rather than me!

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skyebluesapphire · 21/08/2012 20:39

well done on nearly completing the decorating.

My twunt spends lots of time on his phone when with DD. Its not fair when he has one day a week with her, he should be concentrating on her.

I have got mediation with the twunt next week to start sorting out issues over access etc. Not looking forward to it at all..... He walked out with no discussion and is not communicating well now. It was only going to get worse not better, once he walked out, did he not realise that!

If my DD didnt want to go with her daddy, then I would let him see it coming from her and if she really didnt want to go then I dont think he should make her. Its so hard isnt it. I think my DD feels torn when she is with him as she misses me and feels guilty that Im on my own and she is only 4 :( I hate him for what he has done to her more than anything.

redtulip68 · 23/08/2012 18:28

Just some advice needed because everyone , including sols are now expecting me to make the next move.....

  1. Divorce papers issued by court to STBXH (hopefuly) and a copy to myself.
  2. He had 14 days to reply - he wanted the divorce because he wants to 'make his new life without me'.
  3. Mediation documents sent to STBXH and myself. I complete and return mine.
  4. Called mediators today - he hasnt responded to their letter or email
  5. Called solicitors, and they have checked with the courts, his divorce petition hasnt been returned. Remember he wants a quick divorce!
  6. Told by solicitors that I need to get the documents serviced personally to him. They need to know where he lives - I dont know, they want to know his routines - I dont know. Told to get PI - I cant afford one.

To make things worse went to my parents this afternoon only for them to have found lots of photographs of the DC when they were young. So I had to sit through hundreds to 'happy family' pictures. I just cried and cried. I just feel that I take a step forward and then he takes control again and throws me back to the beginning. He continues to control my life and the lives of my children because only he can allow the divorce to occur yet he wont. There is no finanical settlement on the horizon because he wont discuss money or pay anyone. I really hate this. Sad

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skyebluesapphire · 23/08/2012 18:34

Sorry :( ((hugs for you)).

it doesn't make sense does it, if he wants the divorce quickly then why isn't he responding? How annoying for you.

I don't know what to suggest, the solicitors don't seem very helpful do they. You could try posting on legal for some advice.

redtulip68 · 23/08/2012 18:41

I just feel like crying. I really dont know who I can talk to anymore because I worry that I'm just going over the same things over and over again. RL friends just think he has lost his mind, as do family members, but I just think I'm a burden to them and unfortuantely this is now impacting on my entire family. Its causing tension between my parents, who he is always blaming for everything.

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skyebluesapphire · 23/08/2012 20:02

Are you on Facebook?

Pm me with your details if you want to hook up on there and chat.

We can bore each other to death Grin

It is hard and people don't understand if they haven't been through it

redtulip68 · 23/08/2012 20:12

pm sent

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Midwife99 · 26/08/2012 10:10

It's hard yes - RL friends do get sick of hearing about it. That's why MN forum is so good - there's always someone to talk to.

Midwife99 · 30/08/2012 09:28

How are you honey?

GeekCool · 30/08/2012 15:18

Red I have just sat here and read your entire thread and just have to comment.

What a difference between the woman who started the thread and the woman who posts now! All in a short space of 5 months or so! You're incredible Grin

Please remember that your life has changed a lot in a very short time so of course you will wobble! I think you're amazing for what you've done.

I'd like to hear what nice things are happening for YOU. Little things you do now, that you didn't do before, for fear of arguments/he didn't like it etc.

Wishing you all the best, don't let the bastard get you down! (Cliché I know, but a useful one!)

skyebluesapphire · 04/09/2012 22:24

How are you doing? Here to chat anytime. If I'm not online on fb I e always got my iPhone on for messenger.