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Devastated is an understatement

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redtulip68 · 11/03/2012 10:26

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation Starling. Unfortunately I'm in a very similiar position at the moment. My husband of 12 years left the marital home at 10.05pm last Sunday when myself and our two children were in bed. Not warning, nothing ran out in the night the coward he obviously is. The last week has been hell. i've had to tell the children because he only wanted to do it over the phone or in a pub, not in the safe environment of their home.

Apparently he had met some3one on line that he had connected with emotional - nothig sexual had occurred until after he left, or so he is saying. Over the last week I've heard nothing but lies and more lies. He has left the home in in such a state that part is uninhabitable. Environmental Health have been in contact due to the number of vehicles is has left in the garden, carport and other areas that we own surrounding the property. Since leaving I have found out that my wiring is condemned, the oven and hob are a danger to myself and my children. Cant have a bath unless a plunger is used to get plugs out. Had no hot water, could only have heating on for 30 minutes at a time, only flush toilets if someone contorlled the stop cock. Its been a nightmare. But he is living with someone and 'needing time to think what he needs over' whlst I live with two children in disarray.

Found we didnt have any contents or buildings insurance because he hadnt got round to setting up a new policy, bills were out of control because he hadnt got round to getting new quotes - I would have done it but evey bill was in his name at the time, obviously they arent now! Joint mortgage so thats ok.

Apparently will leave his income in my account for the next three months so I can arrange reapirs - what makes him think I can afford them now he has done? Then I'm to live off benefits - I've already established I'm only entitled to 10.43 per month. This is just so unfair, I really dont understand what I've done. he doesnt understand that our children deserve the truth rather than his web of lies which he now stating - I left beuuase we were arguing, 1 argument one night last week.

Visited children after I arranged it - 1 hour, then spoke to me for 2.5 hours, mean at the state but got better. I asked him to come back explained I still loved him and he said he would seriously think about it. He said that he still loved me but didnt think we could work it out because he has left.

Cant tell my family that I want him home bacuse they cant stand him, but I cant help the way I feel. its been made worse becauseof comments he keeps making on facebook which mean I then have to fiedl emails, messages and calls from joint friends and work colleagues. I know I'm having to do all his dirty work, clearing his stuff because he told me to, making calls left right and centre because that's what I'm expected to do.

refuses to give contactable address and often truns mobile phone off - so even in an emergancy I wouldnt be able to contact him.

cant sleep, havent eaten since our initial argument on 2nd march. i know deep down he isnt coming back but my children are young and own has AS. One hates their father, the other is in limbo becuase of promises father has made and subsequently not kept.

Nothing in my world is the same. I just dont know what I should be saying or feeling. Sick to the stomach of crying on my own. the pain is unbearable.

Please excuse the mistakes its just that really cant think straight. spoke this morning and asked if the comments he made yesterday about coming back were true or yet another one of the catelogue of lies he has told this week. Chidlren are lashing out at each other. But its not helped by their father telling them that he left because I was arguing rather than the truth that he was having an affair. There were several incidents this morning and I made him tell the truth but its still only part - now telling the children he is sharing a house with another woman. I just want to know where we all stand. Not lie after lie

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skyebluesapphire · 05/06/2012 18:49

Glad to hear things are going a bit better for you now

FidgetPie · 07/06/2012 22:49

Really good to hear from you and that all is going so well (apart from STBX's twunt-ish behaviour)
Take care - all my best to you and your DCs

redtulip68 · 10/06/2012 18:00

I write this as half term draws to an end and together the children and I have had some lovely days but the only 'fly in the oinment' yet again is the STBX. As a teacher he ovbiously wasnt at school over half term and despite him contactly changing his availability I was still under the impression that he would want to spend some time with the DCF. How wrong can one woman be....he never fails to disappoint! Between Monday 28 May and today, Sunday 10th June, the STBX has seen his children for 6 hours out of 336 hours (For those mathematicans amongst us thats 17%).

He was supposed to see his children this evening but told his DS at 9.30 this morning that he had decided to saty another day on holiday with OW rather than come home and see his DC. by the way my DS only told me this at 5pm so I promptly called him and he said 'No I'm not seeing the children I'm stying in Wales' in such a manner that you would have thought I was asking him to remove his spleen!

Once agin the response from the DC was 'well thats no surprise he always thinks of her first.' Three and half months and its as if the DC had never been born but he's still expecting the DC to meet the OW and go on hoilday with them during the summer holidays. Two hopes - no hope and Bob Hope, and I'm being polite!!!!! [Angry

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AbigailAdams · 10/06/2012 18:04

That's 1.7% redtulip Smile which is pretty poor. But then he is a pretty poor individual!

redtulip68 · 10/06/2012 18:27

I know! I realised the %had a decimal point missing after I'd pressed send - obviously the anger was just over whelming!!!!

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FidgetPie · 13/06/2012 19:40

So glad you and the DCs have had fun. That is terrible about STBX - your poor kids.

However, I wanted to mention that my DH has a similarly completely hopeless and mean father with whom he has practically no relationship and he has turned out wonderfully thanks to his loving mum. He is sad things weren't different but is the opposite to his dad (he jokes that he thinks 'what would X do' and does the opposite) and is a wonderful dad himself. So kids do see people for what they are and bounce back from adversity.

Take care

redtulip68 · 20/07/2012 21:30

Well its been such along time since I last updated you all on the soap opera events that have occurred since my STBXH left on 4th march 2012 so here goes:

  1. STBXH is still an awful pain in the arse
  2. Last a total of 16 stones since he left - ok 13 was him but the last 3 were all mine!
  3. Divorce petition received together with residency order for the children - although it is on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour because the bar steward has refused to go forward on the grounds of adultery and its going to cost loads to fight him.
  4. He has resigned from his job and now that changes everything in terms of money for the children, mortgage and the paying of his debts.
  5. DD has been self harming and we have an appointment to see someone about that.
  6. Going on holiday soon - Yippee!
  7. He is apparently saving for a deposit on a flat - I haven't got the heart to tell him that his 'new love' has asked her husband if she can go back home to him. How do I know? She has written it on her husband's social media account!!!!!
  8. He has been told that he can't take the children on holiday without my consent.
  9. Oh I could go on but life is way to short. Lets just say the following words need to be put into the correct order for him' life to Your about is explode!'

But the best thing is that its the holidays and I get to spend very special times with my two darling children. I think I've got the better end of the deal after all of this.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 20/07/2012 21:39

Karma eh? Have a great summer! x

TheUnsinkableTitanic · 20/07/2012 22:20

redtulip, just spent the last half hour reading this - you have been amazing. well done :)

more power to you!

sorry to hear about your DD

interesting about the resigning from his job - how do the CSA view this?

Midwife99 · 20/07/2012 22:24

Hey red tulip I was thinking about you yesterday & here you are!!! How are you feeling? Sounds like twunt's in a mess but you sound very strong!!

skyebluesapphire · 20/07/2012 22:31

thanks for the update :) Hope you have a good holiday and that STBXH does continue to cause you too many problems.

What goes around comes around .. :-)

redtulip68 · 20/07/2012 22:36

How did the CSA view him resigning? I dont know they are the last people I have thought about. I think it will have to be added to my 'to do' list for the start of the hols. That, work, sols, the endless jobs that I have got to do in maintainig the house and ....the usual motherhood stuff!

Midwife99 - some days good some days not so good but I'm nowhere near the mess I was when he first left. I mainly get upset for what could have been and the fact that he is choosing to miss out on his childrens' lives. Yes he still sees them but the two hours twice a week is getting smaller and smaller. Now down to approximately 2.75 hours which is usually dispersed with telephone calls from and to OW. Really annoyed well I'm really pissed with him to tell the truth concerning him resigning from a well paid job to become a self employed cash in hand labourer on building sites. Thats one way to avoid paying for your own children isnt it! So much for a university education, a pension and a job with career prospects!

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MrsTomHardy · 20/07/2012 22:52

Some men never cease to amaze me.

skyebluesapphire · 20/07/2012 23:23

doesnt!! my comment should of course say "doesnt continue to cause you too many problems" DOH!

Although sadly, he sounds like a complete arse. What is it with these bloody useless men! They try and punish us and its always the kids who suffer...

Midwife99 · 21/07/2012 08:30

I also can't understand the way some men seem to think "there's no way I'm busting a gut at work just to give the money to HER" forgetting its actually for the children!! Also the way at the beginning they'll fight you to the death for lots of access to the children which then quite quickly reduces until there's hardly any contact!

dondon33 · 21/07/2012 09:28

Just read your thread Redtulip from beginning to end and wanted to say what an absolute brave, strong and inspirational woman you are. You should be very proud of yourself.

Sorry about your DD, I hope things improve for her very soon x

What an utter selfish arse he is to resign from a good job, he has done more than enough damage already, at the very least he should be making sure he provides for his children.

It certainly sounds like karma is about to make an appearance in his new life, I hope it hits hard. He made his bed and now has to bloody well lie in it :)

Enjoy the holidays with DC Red and I wish you all the happiness in the world for the future xxx

redtulip68 · 22/07/2012 18:05

Question - do I wipe the smug smile of my STBXH face and give him copies of the facebook comments between OW and her husband? Your views please.

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Doha · 22/07/2012 18:13

I would....but l am a nasty vindictive bitch who would love to cause trouble in paradise,........Blush

skyebluesapphire · 22/07/2012 18:46

I would. I plan to pass all evidence I have of texting and facebook chats on to OW''s H once my divorce is finalised.....

redtulip68 · 22/07/2012 19:49

I have been thinking that I would send the items to him and stand well back. Especially given the fact that this afternoon he decided to once again ask for the house to be sold then added that in future he may not pay the mortgage or given me any money. I explained that the money IS NOT FOR ME it's for his children! Stupid man!

Afterall he now needs the money for his new flat and to buy furnishing with 'the Wash Dolly' - name given to the OW by the DC as she works as a cleaner in the hotel they are currently living in. He has left his professional job with good wage and pension, left his wife with a good career etc to become a cash in hand labourer and live with a cleaner. Break down anyone?

So much for putting his children first!!!!

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Oogaballoo · 22/07/2012 20:25

Hey redtulip, I don't think I've ever posted on your thread before but I've been reading for a while. I think if you hand over the proof you should be prepared for the worst case scenario where you're just jealous and crazy and photoshopping facebook blah blah blah. Never underestimate the ability of a desperate mind to rationalise what they're seeing. It'd be easier for him to lash out at you rather than accept that she doesn't even want him all that much. I'm not saying don't do it, but if you I think your idea of standing well back after is a good one.

I'm sorry to hear about your daughter self-harming. I would encourage her to use vitamin e oil or cocoa butter or something like that to reduce the appearance of scars, as they can be a big source of shame and worry later on. It's good that she's getting help. I did it as a teenager and it was a silent never spoken of issue and it made it much worse. I hope she feels better soon.

Oogaballoo · 22/07/2012 20:28

Also (and I hope this isn't too interfering, sorry) if the marks on her arms and she's feeling self-conscious before of the sun and the holidays and things a cardigan like this:

www.urbanoutfitters.co.uk/sparkle-+amp-fade-drape-pocket-cardigan/invt/5114423193456/&bklist=

is really good. I have one. It's light and concealing.

skyebluesapphire · 22/07/2012 20:40

Yes you do need to be prepared to be painted as a vindictive bitch.... But in my case I am just making sure that her H has the full story.... Why should he be the only one who doesn't know everything....

Midwife99 · 22/07/2012 22:34

It's tricky - whatever you do you'll be painted as the "jealous bitch". Advice I've had here & in RL is to let karma do its work & not sully my hands. The truth will out.

redtulip68 · 24/07/2012 08:49

STBXH wanted to know whther he was having the DC this week and as I didnt know whether he still had access to a laptop - the previous one was connected to the job he resigned from, I had to call him! Told him he could have the DC and that I had contacted the mortgage co, debt management company and CSA concerning his new financial position. Well I wasnt prepared for the way he jumped down my throat. 'Stop taking control' was his response. To which I explained that I was just protecting my children.

'If I pay money towards the mortgage thats my business and if I dont its yours' was one of his comments. I explained that to finally seperate bills etc he needed to take control of his own business rather than expecting me to do it for him, or the reality of letting the OW do it for him - she currently sends his money to the children as he doesnt have a bank acct and she does!

Next was the comment concerning some job specs that I had sent him over amonth ago. I explained that I was originally concerned about his career, even if he wasnt, and that when he told me about it on the telephone I was very upset that he was prepared to put his children's future in jeopardy. When I saw him face to face I had rehearsed what I was going to say about helping him find a new position and that he could have the documents sent here etc but he entered my home with a sneer and was promptly very rude so i decided there and then to not help. His response was that he felt under pressure and that he saw my proposed support as a threat. I asked him to apologise for his response but he refused.

So thats it no help, no support, no response, nothing from me - as long as it doesnt affect my DC then he can rot in hell!

Rant over! Smile

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