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Please - what do I do???

180 replies

Lynnlost · 05/02/2012 13:08

I just don't know what to do and would really appreciate any advice .....

We've been married 32 years, and though I've always believed in faithfulness and the importance of loyalty, it clearly means a lot less to my husband. Some examples are:

I've often overheard other people saying things like "she seems nice - not at all like he makes out"
He constantly put his his job above the family - even when our son was ill, his hospital visits were overshadowed by worry over my husband's bosses' objection to the absence
When he lost that job five years ago, all the discussions about it were with another female friend, never at home, though even that friend remarked that I supported him to the hilt when it all came out.
He schemed with his family to prevent me joining discussions about a home we'd hoped to build on their land back in 2003; when I found out and asked for an open discussion about this, he once again went behind my back to say it wouldn't be going ahead, blaming me for it all
He's even been kind enough (?!!) to tell me who he'd move onto if anything should happen to me

I finally found out last November that he was having cyber sex with some girl in the far east - also he visited prostitutes locally. Even then he lied, denying various aspects until I showed I could prove each one. He claims he did it for attention and excitement and said I provided neither, even though nothing had been said to me, and the things we do (holidays, seeing friends, etc) are nearly always organised by me with him doing almost nothing. He was upset to be found out but not in any way remorseful, and clearly expects me to just forget about the whole thing

That's now 3 months ago, and I still don't know where to turn. He's also been ill a couple of times over the last year and is currently out of action again, so I feel I've got to be the good little wife even more now - but for heaven's sake, do I have to be put at the bottom of the pile for ever??!!! I'm frightened of leaving my home and starting again alone, but really don't see how I can possibly trust him - it's also getting harder by the day even to respect him. I did my crying alone as he doesn't like scenes, but now I just feel numb. I really want to rebuild things, but he's not comfortable talking about anything personal and now I simply feel as if I'm waiting for the next betrayal.

What on earth do I do????

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kodachrome · 10/02/2012 22:31

I'm not sure it works that way anymore, but I'm not really up on divorce law. But you're getting proper legal advice soon, so take everything you have, and he/she will tell you what you can use and what will benefit you most.

Lynnlost · 10/02/2012 22:35

Oh well, roll on Tuesday ................

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2012 22:36

no

if you divorce, you will be entitled to a fair division of the marital assets, no matter on what grounds

this isn't the olden days where you had to get "proof" of anything

divorce or don't divorce..it is your choice

how hard he fights it only makes a difference to how much it may cost, and how long it may take

but if you really wanted out,,,you would do it

Lynnlost · 10/02/2012 22:38

but if you really wanted out,,,you would do it

Exactly!! Tuesday and knowledge + power, here I come!!!!!!!!!

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2012 22:50
Smile

don't be diverted from what you want

HedleyLamarr · 10/02/2012 22:50

Having read your thread I have to say what a fucking charmer he is. Kick this useless fuckpig to the kerb. He's just a vile excuse of a man.

AnyFucker · 10/02/2012 22:51

amen hedley

OP is worth better than this defective article, isn't she ?

WannaBeMegMarch · 10/02/2012 22:54

lynnlost listen to anyfucker who is giving you good advice.
You mentioned upthread that it doesnt matter what you do, you lose.
You can only lose if you consider yourself to still be in a relationship with him..it seems clear to me that you are not.

Stop relying on this man for anything
emotional support
validation
truth

Rely only on yourself.

Lynnlost · 10/02/2012 22:57

Rely only on yourself ....

Am doing my best!!! The support on here helps enormously .... and no, AnyF, I'm not going to be diverted this time. As I said, we all have a point where it's just too much and I'm well past mine

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2012 23:01

You are doing well, lynn

You posted here, which was your first, but not your last, good move

You have to stop considering him though, and considering anyone else except yourself

it what he thinks, and what others think, that has kept you with him for so long

dump that...and you will be find a new life

one where you are not an inconvenience, an object of contempt, something considered only as a thing to be used and disregarded

Lynnlost · 10/02/2012 23:03

You mentioned upthread that it doesnt matter what you do, you lose

Yes, I was trying to illustrate the sheer frustration of dealing with him - I didn't mean I believed myself to be wrong all the time; even I'm not that daft!!

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Lynnlost · 10/02/2012 23:10

you will be find a new life - one where you are not an inconvenience, an object of contempt - to be used and disregarded

Bring it on!!!!! You just can't imagine how accurate "inconvenience" is - that's the exact word to describe how he's always regarded me. What's the matter with me?? Why haven't I seen it this clearly before?? Never mind, better late than never ...

Just one thing - please, all of you, don't let go of my hand now - I'm going to need your support as I get through this!!

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AnyFucker · 10/02/2012 23:12

we will always be here

ChitChatFlyingby · 10/02/2012 23:14

There's always someone here on MN to hold you hand, Lynn!

WannaBeMegMarch · 10/02/2012 23:26

Absolutely Lynn. Keep reading over this thread.
And relying only on yourself is a new habit, one you will take time to get the hang of.
But you will. Practice makes perfect.

HedleyLamarr · 10/02/2012 23:36

Hey! Another one here to hold your hand. You deserve much better than the arsepiece you have currently. Alone is preferable to that. Roll on Tuesday, and hopefully the start of your new life!

NorksAreMessy · 10/02/2012 23:46

Do you feel like the real lynn, the company-starting, 'coping', 'good at everything' lynn has taken charge of the situation.
It certainly sounds like it in your posts recently.

You can do anything you really want to do. You are strong. You are capable. Start planning the happiness.

BIWI · 11/02/2012 00:02

Nobody will let go of your hand. In fact, you'll probably find your hand being held tighter than it's ever been! Because the people holding your hand are thinking about you and what's right for you.

barmygirl · 11/02/2012 00:12

I agree with the other post - believe in yourself and accept that you deserve more than what you seem to have been getting so far.

best of luck with getting this all sorted and you have tonnes of support on this forum

barmygirl · 11/02/2012 00:12

posts I meant!

cenicienta · 11/02/2012 13:42

There's a quote that says

You can't discover new oceans unless you have the courage to leave the shore

In my own life I have found this to be so true over and over again. I've had a wonderful life so far, full of adventure and meeting so many wonderful people. At many points along the way I've been almost frozen with fear about the next step (e.g. when deciding to spend a few months doing humanitarian work in a war zone, when leaving a good well paid job in the UK to go and live in the jungle, when deciding to marry someone from a totally different culture, when leaving the UK yet again, this time with 2 small children to live in the Amazon jungle.

What I want to say is that fear is normal, most of us have times when we're paralised by fear. But when we push ahead despite the fear, the rewards are often beyond anything we could have ever imagined.

There are so many possibilities for you once you leave!

Go for it! There's a wonderful life out there waiting for you :)

Lynnlost · 11/02/2012 14:05

I've had a wonderful life so far, full of adventure ...

Well, I don't think I'll ever be quite that brave, but the peace of mind I'm planning for will be a good start :-)

By the way, a bit of a laugh for you all ... since OH is laid up and feeling sorry for himself, I made a few "out of the blue" remarks about it being a shame that deleted Blackberry/BIM emails can't be retrieved, unlike the ones he sent to his Filipino girlfriend using Yahoo - I know it was mean, but why shouldn't he suffer a bit?? It seems he may have been using that for dubious purposes too, as he's just come in and made a big thing of showing me that he's deleted the email account off his phone ........ a little bit late, I think ???!!!!!!!!!! I didn't give him any credit for doing it, either - just said "ok" and carried on with what I was doing :-)

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AnyFucker · 11/02/2012 14:10

ah, so his eyesight is good enough to be deleting things off his phone

not so "laid up" is he ?

SarahStratton · 11/02/2012 14:43

Far from it, if he can read his phone. And should he be doing that anyway? Might it not endanger his eyesight? Best remove that phone out of reach, take away anything else entertaining, shut the door and leave him to stew.

I suppose you should leave a glass of warm water and some plain biscuits for him. So he can't moan you are starving him etc.

AnyFucker · 11/02/2012 15:13

better still, fuck off round to a friends for the night and leave the poor injured soldier to his grubby little other life

and forget to come back