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Close Encounters of The Intimate Kind! Dating thread No:8

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TimeForSomeAction · 13/01/2012 14:05

Continued from Makes post and in reply of:

Make just ask him. Why not? And of course you are going to be a bit of a mystery woman, he's only just blooming met you! Send him a message saying if he fancies unravelling a bit of the mystery then to get in touch because you would like to see him again. Be playful, be teasing, be fun, make him want you Make Grin

I'm pleased you are having fun but I do have to ask, is all this dating costing you loads of money?? New outfits etc Grin

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reddevildad · 01/02/2012 12:39

Thanks for your comments, everyone. To answer some of the points that have come up, the 3 sites that I?ve found her on have all been under different usernames. I met her on a free site and the other two were subscription.

What prompted me to hide my profile was a jocular comment I made early on in the relationship about being on the site and still receiving mails. She went a bit quiet for the next day or so and I found out that my comment had been taken badly, so to show her that I wasn?t a player I hid my profile there and then, and told her so. I suspect that I should have had The Talk, but her reaction to this and the way our relationship was going made me think it wasn?t necessary and may upset her.

There was a time after a couple of months where she was very evasive about what she?s been doing one day. If not seeing each other we?d speak on the phone two or three times a day, so this made me ask her ?what?s wrong? and she got defensive. It was then that I looked to see if she?d hidden the profile on the site on which we met, and I suppose I was quite ok with her logging in every 3 weeks or so to, as I guessed, message anyone to say she was in a relationship and clear out the inbox. So yes Time, there was a possible underlying problem which was the real trigger, and then another trigger which led to me looking for her on other sites.

Zany, she did say that the sites were just a bit of fun. However I suppose that I?d been looking for reassurance that nothing was going on, and did ask her if she was on other sites (knowing she was) and hoping she would come clean, that it was something innocent and therefore there was no breach of trust. However she denied it, which made the problem worse. My own fault. :) She was also quite assertive in telling me that I was making a mountain out of a molehill.

Loves, I wondered if she does just want the flattery and flirting, and there?s actually nothing more to it. Certainly this would be consistent with the way she acts and talks to me. However, my problem is now that she?s told porkies to cover it up, and this eats away at the trust. Having had two conversations about it, which both of us found distressing, have resulted in me nearly walking out and her persuading me to come back. So she knows that her continued presence on the sites upsets me, yet she continues to log in, supposedly unbeknown to me. At the very least she?s somewhat arrogant in ignoring my feelings!

So it?s a complicated situation, but certainly not so life changing as some on this board, to keep it in perspective. Thanks for all the comments so far, and more are welcomed!

DressingGownQueen · 01/02/2012 12:42

I suppose there is always the possibility that she is just going on to read a message she has received but even that is a little odd imo.

I am with time on this one, unless she has a good reason for still being on the sites I would be showing her the door i'm afraid Sad

To me a 6 month relationship seeing each other 4 days a week is serious enough to not be looking elsewhere.

TimeForMeAndDD · 01/02/2012 12:50

From your latest post she does seem to want her cake and eat it. She doesn't want to lose the relationship but she wants to continue flirting online. I suppose it depends on how much you are prepared to tolerate. It might seem a complicated situation but it really doesn't have to be, if she wants a relationship with you, a proper exclusive relationship then she hides/deletes her profile and gives it her full attention because while ever she is getting some of her needs met online she isn't doing that.

You need to have The Talk Smile

TimeForMeAndDD · 01/02/2012 12:53

This seems like too much hard work to me for such a new relationship, you should still be in the lovely dovey mushy stage not questioning her motives. This woman is telling you who she is by her actions, you need to listen or you are going to end up getting hurt.

Get rid and come and join the thread Grin

Zanywany · 01/02/2012 13:21

How are you doing Time

I'm good, seeing a bit more of Mr Yacht at the mo and had a couple of big chats about the future, moving in/kids etc Gulp

TimeForMeAndDD · 01/02/2012 14:12

I'm good thanks Zany, everything in life is sweet Smile

Wow at you though! See, I was right when I talked 'wedding's' all those weeks a go Grin I'm really happy for you! x

StayForNoone · 01/02/2012 20:08

Zany Grin so pleased things are working out for you! Just remember my invite to the wedding!

Reddevildad - 6 months in and she is on dating sites Confused I agree with time, if she was content with the relationship she wouldn't be doing that. She sounds like a bit of an attention seeker, you are better off without.

Hello everyone else, been busy lately but will read back because I am nosy and see how you are all doing!

hatesponge · 01/02/2012 20:58

zany that's lovely news, good for you :)

I don't have much to report, other than that my old lovely boss phoned today. I was out so didnt speak to him but according to my team, he said to say a big hello from him Grin And that he would ring back. Which of course he hasn't, and I don''t have his number...why is everything such hard work?!

StayForNoone · 01/02/2012 22:13

He will phone again sponge Smile pma!

hatesponge · 01/02/2012 22:46

He better had, stay Grin

reddevildad · 02/02/2012 09:11

Thanks for your comments, everyone. You?ve certainly helped me crystallise my thinking, and I suspect that I?m going to have to have The Other Talk soon. Whatever?s happening, at best she?s ignoring my strongly held feelings (which she does know about!) and trying to get away with something behind my back, which doesn?t augur well for the future. On one hand, it?s a great shame it?s blown up because everything was going so well, but on the other it?s good that her real character has come out sooner rather than later.

So I suspect that you?ll have me back on here as one of the unattached members, ready and willing to give my unique insights into the fuckwittedness of men, being a fuckwitted man myself. :o :o

lovesadirtylie · 02/02/2012 10:36

I hope things work out for the best Reddevil:)
please do offer any insights from 'the other side'!
Yes we are a bit harsh in our evaluations of men in this thread, but I should add that my own fuckwittedness knows no bounds Blush

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/02/2012 10:40

snape - you are seeing him again? thats fantastic!

Zany - how lovely ;)

sponge - did you get to talk to him yet? Is the job offer still on the table?

The teacher guy pretty much harrassed me into seeing him sat. Coffee, in the afternoon. Tbh - i dont really understand why? like, how many times have i cancelled? Unless he is really that desperate? but then after texting loads, he sort of disapears mid conversation on text? Its all a bit strange i think? any ideas?

had a weird couple of days, had an agrument with my brother and sister, then my divorce came though, then i had a big argument with my mum. Spent most of late monday/tuesday morning being very upset.

  • but im ok now. Interstingly i spoke to you know who tuesday, who instantally knew something was up, took the time to listen, encouranged me to talk when i said i was just being stupid and then cheered me up. Made me feel a whole lot better.
Zanywany · 02/02/2012 11:49

Sponge any dates lined up with the 2 men your were chatting with?

Snapes Grin at wanking to stroke his arms. What are your plans for your date this weekend?

Sorry to hear your've had a crap couple of days Watch Divorce being finalised can give mixed emotions. When my solicitor rang to tell me I was over the moon and then burst into tears straight afterwards. Onwards and upwards though. I think when someone really gets you then they can tell how your feeling just by the tone of your voice. IS it this Saturday your seeing teacher?

TimeForMeAndDD · 02/02/2012 12:17

Hi everyone! Right, I'm running a book as to whether watch will actually go on her date or cancel. Place your bets now....!! Grin

Hope things have brightened up for you watch, I did see your other thread and FWIW thought your family were out of order. I couldn't help but wonder if there was a bit of jealousy involved, because from what I can see you manage very well as a single working parent. Keep your chin up Smile

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

Zanywany · 02/02/2012 12:23

I reckon date will be cancelled by 12pm Saturday (you know were only teasing Watch)

TimeForMeAndDD · 02/02/2012 12:32

I reckon you are right Zany Grin

watch do not be harassed into going on a date, only go if you really want to go.

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/02/2012 12:41

i know you are only teasing :)

the date is meant to be at 2pm. im probably not allowed to bet, am i? by 9:30 sat morning is my bet :)

Time - i dont think they are jealous, just judgmental because i cant keep up with them? Im not going to be able to, they all have partners, i dont. My brother lives at home and has no bills, course im not going to have as much disposable income as he does. End of. They can try to twist it as much as they like, but thems are the facts.

Snapespeare · 02/02/2012 12:47

watch christ the long, drawn out tension, just meet him, then you can discard him and move on. Wink Sorry you've been feeling down, but congratulations of the divorce and i think, in talking to 'you-know-who' (Voldemort?) as a friend, who has finally given you some support. I need to try and find your other thread about family nonsense..

talking of 'he who must not be named' Hmm PM has a job interview. where I work. pretty sure this won't go well. but, hey.

reddevildad yes, (sorry, I'm late to this..) I do think you need to have a talk. I would consider it disrespectful, if 6 months into a relationship and after I had made my thoughts clear, that someone continued to do something that I felt was a bit of a deal-breaker, but then, more importantly fibbed about it. Do you want us to honey-trap her? Grin I think a lot of it could be to do with flattery and male attention though - I would consdier exploring that area with her - it might be that the relationship is good apart from this point (which she may well see as minor and you see as major) Without wanting to join the harpy-brigade of 'you! man! show her more attention/flattery! it's your faaaaaault!' It might be that she has deep insecurity issues that you can work through with her if you so wish.

yes, tuesday night chap went all quiet yesterday, so I kind of chalked it up to 'typical! someone I might actually consider shagging having a bit of a fling cough! seeing again has no intention of ever talking to me again and will cross the road if he sees me walking towards him' has texted today, so we're flirty texting. No idea about weekend as yet - I'm broke, it'll need to be cheap!

TimeForMeAndDD · 02/02/2012 12:52

Well if that's the case then it's terrible that they think like that Sad It's not a competition as to who manages the best, we would all be loaded if we lived at home and had no bills to pay. I hope you don't let them get to you, don't let them bring you down.

I will place my bet at 11:55pm on Friday night, so that you can have a good nights sleep without tossing and turning worrying about whether you should cancel or not. Smile

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/02/2012 13:08

it does get to me though. Im awful at being critisied. I do not like feeling like im failing.
Which they made me do. I think i manage quite well, obviously id like a lot more money than i have, and yes, i cant afford to do unlimited social activities, but thats just how it is. Fuckers!

It was nice of he who must not be named. I just totally offloaded to him.

Snape - so a second date is likely? thats amazing :) and pm working at your work? wow. Obviously good for him to get a job.. but, well. you know. could be weird?

TimeForMeAndDD · 02/02/2012 13:13

I'm sorry it gets to you watch but I'm even more sorry that your family say such things to you in the first place. You are most definitely not failing and even if you were it doesn't sound like you would get support. Not a good situation and you have my sympathy.

Yes snape great news on the potential second date and exactly what watch says re PM possibly working at your place. Could definitely be weird.

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/02/2012 13:24

yeah - i know. When i said i wsnt sure if i could go to the meal my mother had a massive go at me and said that we were all skint and i just had to find the money.
her all skint ' includes her and her husband who just brough a 2 year old saab, and my sister and her boyfriend who just brought a brand new bmw and totally redecorated their living room. And my brother, who can afford to run two cars, one that he is re building for fun and the other as a run around, which is newer than my car. FFS.
All my arguments fall on deaf ears - and they all say that i take home more than my mother does, even though she works 10 hours more than me. Shes not skint, therefore i shouldnt be. the fact that she is married, with a well earning partner and almost mortgage free, an no one to support under the age of 18 is a moot point. Fucks me off so much, im getting annoyed again.

TimeForMeAndDD · 02/02/2012 13:32

You know watch, I have three grown up children, just a bit younger than you but with their own lives, jobs, homes, responsibilities etc and if one of my children told me she/he couldn't afford to go for a meal I would either offer to pay or think of a possible solution, I wouldn't dream of speaking to one of my adult children the way your mother spoke to you. From reading your thread it seems your brother jumped on the proverbial band wagon too. You are a grown woman with a child, you have responsibilities and your family do not know your most personal financial circumstances, just as I don't know those of my children, it's not right that they should judge or speak to you in this way. Where is the respect? The support?

watchoutforthatsnail · 02/02/2012 13:50

there isnt any.
The day after when my divorce came though, i called my mum, ended up in another argument, because she started shouting at me that i couldnt even begin to compare my divorce to her ( i hadnt, and you cant compare these things, they are all awful. and she doesnt know the details anyway, because she said she didnt want to know) So, there was that, on top of sunday.

I also think my brother must have got his ideas from my mother, seeing as he lives with her. He said i budget badly and am always buying clothes. I think the last time i brought clothes for myself was in the summer, i havent brought anyting for ages, because i gained weight!! Knowing how gossipy m mother is, i expect shes been exaggerating stuff over the dinner table, and thats where his ideas have come from. It cant have come from anywhere else because i only see him at family events, never speak to him on the phone...???!?!?

Its fine, ill be fine. Ive never had any support, ive got this far without it, and i can carry on just fine. But god, i would never treat my child in that way.
( see, not only do i have relationship trust issues, but just general trust issues) I should pretty much give up on ever being able to be in an actual relationship with somone, i dont think i could ever do it.