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Found a file saved on Partner's PC

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TwoPeasOnePod · 12/01/2012 11:15

OK. This happened on 31st dec, been thinking about posting since then to get opinions, seeing as I can't seem to break out of the numb feeling to form one of my own. I am 25, have 2 DD's under 5 with my partner,been together about 7 years now. I am 29 weeks pregnant with our third child. We live together.

Looking through the files hes recently downloaded, whilst he was walking around in the background feeding kids etc,so I wasnt being sneaky, I noticed some general porn saved (an orgy one and a nurse-themed one) He knows it pisses me off, so I deleted them and had a bit of a whinge (not a HUGE deal to me, as our sex life is pretty non-existent due to my anaemia/seem to bleed easily after sex/hip pain)
so a 'normal' wank to a bit of vanilla porn is the best of a shitty deal to me, I feel I cant stop him using it.
Carried on randomly looking, and saw two quite different films saved that hes downloaded- one was titled something like hot german Teenager fisting, and the other was called Real Drugged Rape.
I clicked on it to see what the actual fuck it was, and as the title suggests, it appeared to me to be a young (18 to 20 at a guess) Asian woman in the back of a car, VERY drowsy/almost unconscious, being fondled/exposed/touched by some older man, filming on what appeared to be shaky handheld camera.

I skipped through it, saw a few seconds of the woman face down being raped etcetera. All of which is BURNED into my fucking memory. It pops into my head constantly, it is making me ill with stress.I felt like i was genuinley going to faint, due to shock i think, and utter, utter disgust. And I asked my partner to come and explain it. He said he "downloaded it out of curiosity" and when asked if he finds it in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER a turn-on, he vehemently denied that it is, likening it to watching executions etc that are real and available online (I didn't know he would watch that either!!) I didnt really look at the fisting one, but its the same category, relatively young woman being used and violated.

I said to him that even if the rape one isn't a film of a 'real' rape, the fantasy of raping a very young woman WHO IS FUCKING DRUGGED (or acting?! how the fuck can you know for sure) is completely wrong to me, as a mother if two DDs I cannot tolerate a person who would even look at it just out of curiosity, much less select it, download it, and then keep it. He apologised and said he is stupid, didnt 'think'.

Despite the fact he says he gets nothing sexual out of it, I am obviously not believing that. Why the fuck else would he download it? (thats a genuine question, I cant think of any other reason why, and the resulting congnitive dissonance is making me ill. I dont want to believe it is true, because it will make the imminent birth of my child etc very hard if Im alone.)

So, from a feminist point of view (am trying to use that as an approach to my life, have very low self esteem too) I am thinking I should remove him from mine and my DDs presence, I feel THAT strongly about it. He is otherwise a lovely-seeming person, a bit cold and robotic sometimes but funny, warm, and has what I would previously have described as vanilla tastes re porn, sex etc. He says fisting is normal? I didnt think so, but dont really know in terms of general acceptability.
He certainly hasnt tried to hide it as such,knowing I have free access to his PC, just dont use it. He didnt expect me to fidn it though.Also found that in the fortnight before Xmas he has joined a dating site and a 'sex in the UK' site. When I confronted him, he says it was curiosity again Hmm and he would never actually cheat, just clicked links and had a nosy.........

I feel like a total twat, due to give birth soon, and obviously at some point he is probably going to fuck me over. Current emotional situation is totally numb. I havent done anything or said anything conclusive to him about the whole thing because in the past I slept with someone else once, and so am battling with remaining objective. Because till now he hasnt put a foot wrong that I know of. I cannot believe how vulnerable he has made me feel.

Sorry for length of post but trying not to drip feed.

OP posts:
singingprincess · 13/01/2012 15:41

Hysterical, goading?

How patronising.

I think that OP very definitely should talk to someone in a professional capacity. I think that she will need some very real support to get through this, and it may take some time.

People really show their colours on these kinds of threads. I don't think that finding this utterly vile on the deepest level is remotely "hysterical", and that is exactly the kind of word I would expect from an apologist.

MABS · 13/01/2012 16:47

I am so sorry to read this update :( you take care

StealthPolarBear · 13/01/2012 16:49

Thetruth, as I said in my first ever post "report to the police" was my reaction, what I would have done. Is hat not why people post on mn, to get other opinions. Turns out I was wring, and am able to admit it. Please point out the posts where I was hysterical or goaded the op. Until you can do that or apologise and admit you, and the poster who accused me of 'screaming' were wrong (dont get that, I've not used bold or caps but hey some people see what they want to see) I will not be engaging. Oh and cobgrats on being right. Now can we get back to the op, maybe? Hmm.

Op glad you have a plan. Hope the weeend isn't too strssful, please do update on Monday

tooearlymustdache · 13/01/2012 16:56

thanks for coming back, TwoPeas

i'm glad you were able to talk to him, you're far more forgiving than i am for sure.

take care, to you and your DCs

Becauseimperfect · 13/01/2012 17:01

Who said you were screeching sbp? Not me? I said plenty were screeching at the op. Seeing thing you want to see, or do you think you may have been. Rather defensive.

It always interests me, self professed victims of abuse and violence, raining hell on posters to do stuff or else. It's ironic. Posters like that, there are plenty in here, just don't see it.

Take it to pc world, report it to the police now, why wouldn't you go to the police, selfish, its definitely illegal, do it now before someone does it for you.

All comments in here that we're said to the op, talk about jumping the gun, like I said none of you actually knew if the porn was illegal. That's now been clarified. Thank fuck for sanity.

tooearlymustdache · 13/01/2012 17:05

yeah, thank fuck you knew exactly what was on the download then, Because?

thank fuck you were right i say, but not because the OP knew you were, but because i wouldn't want to be the judge if a filmed rape was illegal or not Hmm

gloating is never pretty, on any thread

Yeahthatsnotgonnahappen · 13/01/2012 17:07

Twopeas I've been reading this absolutely shocked. There never is a good time to do these things and I think you should be proud of the real strength you've shown by confronting your partner and being able to accept what this means about him.

I think almost all women would be horrified to find out that the man that they were with got a kick out of rape (whether the video is real or not is bytheb),, but in reality I think a lot would try and sweep it under the carpet or rationalise it. I'm sure all your friends and family will be right behind you - and don't feel you can't tell the, the real reason for the break up, this is his shame, not yours.

StealthPolarBear · 13/01/2012 17:28

"easy for you to keep screaming that sob"

TotallyLaLa · 13/01/2012 17:30

Adding to this latest lot of posts TwoPeas, I think you are being incredibly strong and focused on it all.

Try and have a lovely weekend with your DD's and do let us know how you get on.

Take care and keep your chin up. You know you're doing the right thing - for you and your DD's - and that is what is the most important thing here.

jenny60 · 13/01/2012 17:36

You're being very strong. You and your dc really do not need this scumbag in your lives. Good luck. Keep posting if it helps and please ignore the unhelpful people who want to make everything about themselves.

Bossybritches22 · 13/01/2012 17:46

Back to the OP folks.....

2peas I am in admiration of you for staying so calm whilst hearing that shit from your STBE, I hope the w/e can pass in a civil fashion whilst you get your RL support lined up.

You sound like you've got a second breath and really got your mind set on a plan,as you say incredibly sort-term but hey a plan, baby steps & all that.

Keep us posted, you are one of many strong women on here Grin

nursenic · 13/01/2012 18:09

TwoPeasOnePod

You have my deepest respect and hopes for a happier, stable and self esteem 'filled' future.

windsorTides · 13/01/2012 18:51

Good to see an update OP. Yes, he's still lying about the dating sites and also hasn't told you the half of it WRT his porn habit and his dislike of women. What he's admitted to tells you all you need to know though and it's pointless finding out more.

I'd strongly advise you to start telling people in RL about the real him - not the 'lovely man whose wife had an affair and who's bravely forgiven her' because that will help your resolve and although it shouldn't matter what others think or believe, you will need support and understanding in the coming months and years.

Be careful not to get sucked in by the Mr. Nice Guy routine over the weekend. It would be so easy and even understandable for a pregnant woman whose life has been overturned to kid herself that he will change, he will get help and the person you once thought he was, will make a comeback. But he won't. As I can see from your posts after my first on this thread, this man is someone you would be safer and happier away from. Good luck and do update.

GypsyMoth · 13/01/2012 19:32

Now is see why the other poster with a similiar name to becauseimperfect wanted it crystal clear in her thread that they were NOT the same poster!!!!

Becauseimperfect · 13/01/2012 19:34

Oh get over yourself Olympia. Stop crying.

GypsyMoth · 13/01/2012 19:40

Crying??? How odd! Where?

singingprincess · 13/01/2012 19:43

You are an incredibly brave and strong woman OP.

I wish you a happy and healthy future...mentally as well as physically, and that is what you will pass on to your children. Surround yourself with those who have your best interests, and those of your dc, at heart

becauseimperfect I am sorry for you.

Becauseimperfect · 13/01/2012 19:49

Don't be sorry with me, you are the one with issues, I know, you get angry, and have to tell people what to do.

Don't blow a gasket sp.

StealthPolarBear · 13/01/2012 19:54

Who is crying and screaming? I'm still in the dark.

StealthPolarBear · 13/01/2012 19:56

I find it odd that people are focusing on the dating sites. He is vile, surely his actual or attempted adultery is fairly low down the list? Or am I missing somethig, is this a pattern of behaviour?

singingprincess · 13/01/2012 20:31

I am now very used to dealing with people like BI. Your posts give away a lot more than you would imagine. A lot more. And that is why I feel sorry for you, because you have no idea. Really NO idea.

SPB...no one is, only those so disconnected from themselves, that they project it on to everyone else, because they can't stand it to be their "own emotion".

Becauseimperfect · 13/01/2012 20:34

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izzywhizzyswinterwarmer · 13/01/2012 20:41

It seems that a lot of responders are missing things on this thread - rationality being one of the more obvious omissions.

ImperialBlether · 13/01/2012 20:43

As a singleton, I find it really scary to think of rape fantasists on dating sites.

StealthPolarBear · 13/01/2012 20:52

If that was aimed at me I'd quite like to know what was said. Also still waiting to find out where I screamed. Not forthcming....

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