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Found a file saved on Partner's PC

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TwoPeasOnePod · 12/01/2012 11:15

OK. This happened on 31st dec, been thinking about posting since then to get opinions, seeing as I can't seem to break out of the numb feeling to form one of my own. I am 25, have 2 DD's under 5 with my partner,been together about 7 years now. I am 29 weeks pregnant with our third child. We live together.

Looking through the files hes recently downloaded, whilst he was walking around in the background feeding kids etc,so I wasnt being sneaky, I noticed some general porn saved (an orgy one and a nurse-themed one) He knows it pisses me off, so I deleted them and had a bit of a whinge (not a HUGE deal to me, as our sex life is pretty non-existent due to my anaemia/seem to bleed easily after sex/hip pain)
so a 'normal' wank to a bit of vanilla porn is the best of a shitty deal to me, I feel I cant stop him using it.
Carried on randomly looking, and saw two quite different films saved that hes downloaded- one was titled something like hot german Teenager fisting, and the other was called Real Drugged Rape.
I clicked on it to see what the actual fuck it was, and as the title suggests, it appeared to me to be a young (18 to 20 at a guess) Asian woman in the back of a car, VERY drowsy/almost unconscious, being fondled/exposed/touched by some older man, filming on what appeared to be shaky handheld camera.

I skipped through it, saw a few seconds of the woman face down being raped etcetera. All of which is BURNED into my fucking memory. It pops into my head constantly, it is making me ill with stress.I felt like i was genuinley going to faint, due to shock i think, and utter, utter disgust. And I asked my partner to come and explain it. He said he "downloaded it out of curiosity" and when asked if he finds it in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER a turn-on, he vehemently denied that it is, likening it to watching executions etc that are real and available online (I didn't know he would watch that either!!) I didnt really look at the fisting one, but its the same category, relatively young woman being used and violated.

I said to him that even if the rape one isn't a film of a 'real' rape, the fantasy of raping a very young woman WHO IS FUCKING DRUGGED (or acting?! how the fuck can you know for sure) is completely wrong to me, as a mother if two DDs I cannot tolerate a person who would even look at it just out of curiosity, much less select it, download it, and then keep it. He apologised and said he is stupid, didnt 'think'.

Despite the fact he says he gets nothing sexual out of it, I am obviously not believing that. Why the fuck else would he download it? (thats a genuine question, I cant think of any other reason why, and the resulting congnitive dissonance is making me ill. I dont want to believe it is true, because it will make the imminent birth of my child etc very hard if Im alone.)

So, from a feminist point of view (am trying to use that as an approach to my life, have very low self esteem too) I am thinking I should remove him from mine and my DDs presence, I feel THAT strongly about it. He is otherwise a lovely-seeming person, a bit cold and robotic sometimes but funny, warm, and has what I would previously have described as vanilla tastes re porn, sex etc. He says fisting is normal? I didnt think so, but dont really know in terms of general acceptability.
He certainly hasnt tried to hide it as such,knowing I have free access to his PC, just dont use it. He didnt expect me to fidn it though.Also found that in the fortnight before Xmas he has joined a dating site and a 'sex in the UK' site. When I confronted him, he says it was curiosity again Hmm and he would never actually cheat, just clicked links and had a nosy.........

I feel like a total twat, due to give birth soon, and obviously at some point he is probably going to fuck me over. Current emotional situation is totally numb. I havent done anything or said anything conclusive to him about the whole thing because in the past I slept with someone else once, and so am battling with remaining objective. Because till now he hasnt put a foot wrong that I know of. I cannot believe how vulnerable he has made me feel.

Sorry for length of post but trying not to drip feed.

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HopeEternal · 26/01/2012 11:50

Bossybritches22 is right.

TwoPeas concerns are far more wide ranging than the downloaded video. This continuing attempt to prove or disprove what is frankly an irrelevant point to the turmoil she is going through and the decisions she is trying to make is appalling.

Please either direct your time and effort to supporting her or leave the thread.

Charbon · 26/01/2012 11:53

I agree Bossy. Google wars between posters and wankers pretending to be female contributors, are not helping the OP at all.

In any case, the OP believes that what she saw was real and given that real rape does happen in porn and is filmed and distributed, I believe her.

But that's besides the point and doesn't seem to be the OP's main concern now. I hope she can return to her thread if she needs support.

spenditwisely · 26/01/2012 13:47

I think it is actually helping to support OP by giving her factual information of what the legal implications of her situation are. I'm not disputing the law, on the contrary you, bossy and others are telling OP 'the video's not real' even though she honestly believes that it is then reeling off legal shite to back up your argument. How supportive is it to tell someone they are not really seeing what they are in fact really seeing?

Your dismissive attitude of both me and OP leaves a lot to be desired. I will come back to the thread when OP has come back, hopefully with some strength and possibly having had proper legal advice from a professional.

Bossybritches22 · 26/01/2012 14:02

Thank you Hope & Charbon I was begining to feel like a voice in the wilderness! Grin

I too hope twopeas returns to update us if she can.

spendit

More evidence you have NOT actually read the whole thread. I haven't commented on the legalities of anything,other than a personal opinion, I am not qualified to do so & others have commented early on enough to hopefully help the OP a little. I have not been dismissive of the OP but seeking to not cause any more hurt to a woman who is going through hell and doesn't need her STBE's behaviour dissecting ad infinitium when the thread has moved on.

I also haven't quoted any legal shite as you so delicately put it, although feel free to call any of my PERSONAL opinions whatever you like, I practice what I teach my kids ....agree to disagree.

Should the OP feel it is helpful to seek legal advice then I'm sure she will but if she doesn't that's up to HER, please don't try and do legal one-up-manship.

Charbon · 26/01/2012 15:25

spendit I'm saying that I too believe the clip was real. I support you and the OP in that belief too. I also happen to think your personal motives for finding out the information you've posted were well-intentioned, just as vicar's were.

ThatVikRinA22 · 26/01/2012 15:48

i give up.

spendit you have a bee in your bonnet and will not be told despite having a lawyer and a police officer on the thread freely giving correct legal advice, and it seems you will only be satisfied when you think you have "won".

and the OP s plight has now become second only to someone who thinks that in 20 minutes you can teach yourself law. well rock on. I am not going to engage with you on this any further as it is detracting from the point of the thread.

I have done nothing but seek to reassure the OP that she did not need to feel guilty for not reporting the images to the police, and that fact still remains because what ever spendit thinks, the video is not illegal. Im not going to keep repeating myself or wasting my breath. I have said all along that the OP had bigger fish to fry.

i am however tempted to phone the Chief Constable of my force and tell him he could save himself a huge amount of money amid the government cutbacks if he only took a leaf out of spendits book and let us all teach our self the law the spendit way- (with google and 20 minutes) After all, why spend 20 weeks training us and then having a 2 year probationary period in which we do a degree, when you can simply do this yourself the spendit way. You should really get in touch with Theresa May. Im pretty sure she would agree with your proposal.Hmm

spenditwisely · 26/01/2012 15:59

Yes thank you Charbon I was under public attack from Bossy and didn't see your post.

Bossy You are being patronising, dismissive and impolite. I'm not going to argue with you on here, it might be better for you to pm people if you've got a problem with what they are saying.

spenditwisely · 26/01/2012 16:06

Same advice to Vicar - it's not helping OP you running me down here!

I know that rape porn for entertainment is legal to a certain extent.

But how do you know this video is not real?

!!!!

AnyFucker · 26/01/2012 16:16

I happen to know OP is still reading the thread, and all this arguing over semantics will not be helping

Put a sock in it everyone

spenditwisely · 26/01/2012 16:26

Agree AF. I did try...

AnyFucker · 26/01/2012 16:27

try harder

ThatVikRinA22 · 26/01/2012 16:38

i have done nothing but try to help the OP in a crappy situation with advice on the dilemma she faced regarding the repeated calls from posters to go to the police with the video.

but i will gladly bow out.

izzyskungheifatchoy · 26/01/2012 16:39

The Obscene Publications Act 1959 was cited in the 1961 decision to prosecute Penguin Books for the offence of publishing D H Lawrence's work 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'. Suffice it to say that this previously banned book was subsequently included on the School Curriculum.

The Obscene Publications Act 1964 was cited in the 1971 decision to prosecute the publisher and editors of Oz Schoolkids which resulted in the defendents being found guilty after the longest obscenity trial in English legal history. At a susequent 3 day hearing at the Court of Appeals, the convictions were overturned.

The clue, dear spendit is in the word 'publish' as those who had purchased, read, or otherwise viewed, these published works were not engaging in any unlawful act and nor, as it transpired, had the publishers of these works committed any offence by making them available to the general public.

In England, Wales, and Northern Ireland, it is not unlawful to download adult pornographic images of rape either drugged drunk or sober whether real or staged and this lamentable state of affairs can be laid fairly and squarely at the feet of one ex lawyer Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and his fellow meglomaniacs cronies.

It is precisely because there has been a surfeit of emoting and projecting on this thead that I have attempted to adopt a dispassionate stance as making a drama out of a crisis is not, IMO, in the best interests of the OP. I hope now to see some constructive suggestions as to how best she can resolve or otherwise come to terms with her discovery given that she has had 2 dc with her current partner and is expecting a 3rd in the very near future.

AnyFucker · 26/01/2012 16:44

Please, nobody bow out

Let's all move on. Agree to disagree and stop addressing each other

Bossybritches22 · 26/01/2012 22:14

AF I was trying but someone keeps coming back. :D

AnyFucker · 26/01/2012 22:35

twopeas I hope you are hanging in there x

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ineedabodytransplant · 11/03/2015 17:04

Well, Bongo. Good post.

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