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It's all gone wrong again...

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ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 19:14

Hi there, I could really do with some thoughts and advice here please. Sorry this is long.

Since 1998 I had been a single parent after the father of my 2 children, who were then just about to turn 1 and 2 years, decided to leave. I managed to work through all the shit and come out ok. Earlier this year I met someone who I have known of rather than known since I was a child. Everything seemed to happen very fast, and within months we were talking of marriage and another child together. He has 2 children from his previous marriage which ended 5 years ago.

So we stopped using contraception, and I became pregnant almost instantly. He has moved in with me and my 2 children, his children come to stay every weekend. I am now 3.5 months pregnant. I returned to work part time in September when my youngest started reception. I have felt very sick and tired for the last few months.

We were both very happy about it all, and all the children have been getting on very well, and it has seemed great. I have to admit to feeling very nervous at the start of it all going pear shaped having experienced one disastrous relationship with 2 children involved, but he assured me that he had never loved anyone like this, this must be love, he would do anything to ensure that we made this work.

Now, in the last week I feel as if what I have to do has increased greatly, another adult and 2 more children for part of the week. He has an outside interest that means on average 2 or 3 times a month I have looked after the 4 children either on a weekend afternoon or evening while he has been out. I have collected his children for him when he has been at work, stayed with them at activities when he wanted/needed to go somewhere. I thought I had done everything to fully embrace the new family. I have returned to work and I am pregnant. He has recently qualified in his field, but only works 3 days a week, and this did mean he looked after my girls for 2 days in half term while I was at work, so that was helpful, but on his other days off, he has been doing something for an outside interest of his, and then last night, when I came home with the children at 5pm, he arrived back at the same time, and made a cup of tea and lit the fire and spent the rest of the time sat on the sofa. While I made dinner for everyone, then cleared away and washed up, sorted washing, got my children in the bath and to bed. Then needed to do pack lunches, some ironing and sort out new car insurance. I then pointed out to him that I wasn't very happy, and he said he was willing to do anything, but I had now done it all, so yes I could have asked him to help, but he too could have offered, anyway this is kind of beside the point now! He then did not speak to me for the rest of the night, and slept in a different room, the next morning he left for work without saying goodbye as he normally would, he leaves just before I get up.

Later on he was collecting his 2 children after some after school activities, and then bringing them home, however he text me in the day to say that they were going to see his mum first, and then eventually turned up without them and told me that it was over as we were too different.

He said we had different views on organisation, I am very organised, I find that with school, and after school activities, and now working and shopping and everything you need to be! He complained that I asked him when he would be home so I knew whether I should be making tea for the children on their own earlier or all of us together, and also complained about the specific way I like to hang washing on the line! That was all he said on that subject, and then said sorry.

He then stood there while I tried to talk to him about these differences, and he just didn?t respond, so I asked about our attitudes to managing and spending money, I spend money but try hard not to waste it, having been left to look after 2 young children as a single parent I have really tried to ensure that I have savings and am reasonably financially secure so that I can provide for them. He on the other hand has no savings, and doesn?t actually have to support the day to day lives of his children and activities etc. Now in losing the single parent extra working tax credits, we have a very similar amount of money now for 2 adults and 2 children, and 2 more children for part of each week, as I had before for 1 adult and 2 children, so to me managing money and not wasting it is even more important if we want holidays etc. He previously said that he would leave the finances to me as he just didn?t think like that but totally understood what I was saying. He had also said that it was great that I was so organised as he wasn?t, and with 4 children currently and there will be 5 between us we would need to be organised.

However now it seems that these ?differences? which I thought were just about working out between us how to manage our household in terms of money and organisation, have become far more important that the apparent immense love that he felt for me that would mean we would always work it out and talk about any issues.

Today he has said he is too busy to talk to me, he has not been at work today. I just cannot believe that this has happened, I don't quite understand what has happened really.

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Portofino · 11/11/2011 20:40

It could be equally that he has been really trying to fit in the new system and op justs huffs and criticizes his washing hanging ability. It is very hard to say....

RumourOfAHurricane · 11/11/2011 20:42

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AugustMoon · 11/11/2011 20:53

Sorry to be brash but has the sex life quietened down since you got pregnant? Sounds like a commitment-phobe just in it wholeheartedly for the good times and when things get serious and/or he is expected to do things he doesn't like doing he gives up, just like that. Bit selfish?

Having said that, it's early days for you as a couple and you still might be able to work through this... IMHO women are often unhappy with having to do most of the organisation / housework but they stick it out and try to make changes which don't materialise and gradually it becomes accepted. I'm generalising and I'm sure some lucky ones have organised husbands but lets face it they're few and far between and most of them have a sense of entitlement to a social-life, fulfilling work and free time to do as they please while a woman (mother or wife) clears up the mess and gets everything in order like invisible magic fairies. Your situation is no different to thousands, probably millions.

Charbon · 11/11/2011 21:06

Well daft women do, I suppose, but it's not to be recommended is it?

So his ex-wife was a nightmare eh? I bet she could tell some tales.....

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 21:13

Portofino - he has hung the washing on the line once, I would normally do it and am more than happy to do it, I was just in a hurry to get the girls to school and he was not working that day. I mentioned how I liked it to be hung out that was all, he said ok and did it. It was only yesterday that he said it was issue for him.

He made a cup of tea, not a meal.

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Portofino · 11/11/2011 21:17

What do you want to happen? Do you want him to come back?

Portofino · 11/11/2011 21:28

I suppose what I am picking up from this thread (and it only my hunch) is that he moves in with you - and you are telling him how things have to be, finances like this, washing like this. He only hung the washing out once - and it was wrong? I would be upset if someone told ME how to hang washing out. You have not detailed any arselike behaviour on his part - other than the fact that he left.

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 21:29

I don't know really, I have been very self-sufficient and coped with my 2 children once on my own from 1 and 2 years. I can do it again with another, I am confident I could support them well now. This was probably my biggest fear when my 2 children's father left, but I'm not firghtened of that now.

I actually really thought this was going to work, and I am really disappointed if he has just given up like that. I love him.

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Portofino · 11/11/2011 21:32

Well you should call him.

Charbon · 11/11/2011 21:38

I don't think walking out was the only arse-like behaviour. He works 3 days a week, you work AND you're pregnant and yet you do all the washing, ironing, cleaning, financial management and look after his 2 kids when he's meant to be spending time with them. He only met you earlier this year and yet already he's leaving his kids with his new partner while he plays in his band? That's not a good Dad is it? If he was the resident parent and when the kids went to stay with their Mum at the weekend, she contracted out the childcare to her newish partner while she pursued her hobby, what would you think of that?

Unless you hear from him tonight, I really do think he's either back with his ex or has found someone else. But although it's horrible to realise this when you're pregnant, I'd say this might just have been a lucky escape....

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 21:38

Portofino - no he didn't hang it out wrong, he asked me first how I liked it, as he had seen me do it before and commented that I seemed to do it in a special way!

With the finances, now he was a student when we met, and since moving in he has not paid anything towards the house. I bought bunk beds for his children and bedding etc, he said he would be pay me back as soon as he got his first pay check after qualifying, that was now 3 weeks ago but despite me saying 'we must talk about finances now you've been paid he has just said 'yes we must' and usually then walks away.

No he has been really really nice to me since the start, which is why I am confused that he'd walk away about hanging washing on the line!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 11/11/2011 21:51

So he owes you money as well?

This is what SGB would call a cocklodger.

Charbon · 11/11/2011 21:56

Yep Sad

buzzswellington · 11/11/2011 22:02

I don't think he has left. I think he is teaching you a lesson. And will be back.

I suggest you don't learn it and tell him to keep walking.

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 22:08

He has paid for some takeaways, some shopping, and his diesel. When he was still a student he got a bursary and did pay for outings in the summer and stuff, that was before he moved in. Actually I was happy to sort out finances one he started working and got paid, it just seems he is reluctant to talk about it or do it! Having said he would pay me back for the beds etc straightaway, I thought it was have been the first thing on his mind.

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ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 22:09

*would have been

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TooEasilyTempted · 11/11/2011 22:30

So he was a skint student and convinced you that he should move in with you and pay nothing, you should get pregnant and work to support him whilst also taking care of his children when they come to stay and do almost all of the household shite? Wow he really did a number on you didn't he? When he comes back (which he will cos he ain't stupid and knows he's onto a good thing) make sure his stuff is in binbags waiting on the doorstep for him.

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 22:35

He now works, and as an example in half term looked after my 2 children for 2 days when he was off and I was at work. He cooks, takes my eldest and his 2 to activities they all do on a Saturday morning, mows the lawns as he said I shouldn't now be pushing the heavy petrol mower, so actually I think that is not a true picture you have painted.

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TooEasilyTempted · 11/11/2011 22:40

Well since by your own admission he has paid nothing towards the house since moving in, and he works part time, I think what you've described in your last post is the bare minimum he should be doing.

rightchoice · 11/11/2011 22:41

You must be stunned at the moment. Things don't look good. He wen't to his mothers with his DC's and came back to announce ITS OVER, no discussion, no compromise. He's a bolter. Suggest you change the locks.

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 22:42

Yes I agree, I was just saying I haven't felt that he does nothing IYSWIM.

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ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 22:43

rightchoice - absolutely yes I am just shocked by it!

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rightchoice · 11/11/2011 22:49

You must be. It will sink in soon, when it does remember what this hypocrite is capable of. Obviously this man has a totally selfish side to him. I understand break ups like most, but you are pregnant and he announces suddenly with no discussion that he's off. No discussion, just off. It takes your breath away. Take care of yourself.

ThoughtsPlease · 11/11/2011 23:00

thank you rightchoice x

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rightchoice · 11/11/2011 23:06

The one thing about all this to remember is that you got along without him before you met him. You can provide for your DC's and you are STRONG. You have your home and are secure in that respect. He may well have a re-think but would you ever trust him or believe him again? I am staggered for you.