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Husband can't get on with my DC

193 replies

phoenix2 · 07/11/2011 12:51

I feel like i am living in a nightmare. i can't understand how it has all gone so wrong. i had a 4 yr old dd when i met my now husband. we have two kids now 3 and 1. my dh and my dd were fairly close until 3 yrs ago. i guess she turned into a pre-pubescent or it was the arrival of our own dd but since then they have simply not got on. My dd is now 13. The arguements are constant. literally 3/4 days out of every 2wks my dh and i won't be talking over something or other.

Now my dd is not a saint and in many ways she is an unusual child. Not wild or particularly bold or anything like that but very lazy, no 'get up and go' whatsoever, speaks very low, extremely fussy and slow eater and at times i can admit it she won't do the things she is asked (simlpe stuff around the house) but i guess all of this is normal for a 13yr old. She does my head in at times but i still love her totally and completely - she's still my baby and i know i was probably every bit as bad when i was her age.

My Dh however cannot tolerate her at all. We can't even have a day out together without it ending in disaster or him giving out to her over every little thing and her withdrawing into herself which annoys him even more. We went on holidays earlier this year and i swore never again - it was a nightmare. We used to go away for weekends with her when she was smaller but i wouldn't even dream of doing that now as it would be a joke.

We had a day out shopping yesterday and once again it descended into a disaster. he was hungry before we were so we stopped for lunch - i know my dd wouldn't eat a dinner (she was only after eating popcorn) so i said she would have soup - this resulted in him giving out yards about how spoilt she was, how you would think she was royalty etc etc (now she does have a very annoying way of eating) you could see people at the next table just staring at us. I was putting up new pics on the mantle piece yesterday eve and put one of her on the couch for a mo (while i was rearranging them) and she said 'dont' take down the only one of me' he started giving out saying that was such a stupid thing to say. His brother was there at the time and my heart broke for her as i could see her hold ing back the tears. His bro took them out for chips and while gone i said that as usual he was being too hard on her. And thats when he said it. After all these years he finally said he can't stand her. He ususally just says she is spoilt, brat, no manners etc but this was a new low.

Only last weekend he promised me there would be no more givnig out to her that he would improve, that he can see its killing me etc. (i have heard this almost every month for the past three years).

so what the hell do i do?? she has a dad who loves her but lives the other side of the country, his mother adores her and lives only 4 kms from her and she usually goes there 1/2 night each week. This sounds awful but these are the only nights i can relax. I feel sick to my stomach at the way this has all turned out. He is a shit husband, shit step father but an amzing dad to his own two.

Any advice would be great. this is taking a huge toll on my health and it must be awful for my dd

Sorry for long thread. but sometimes i wish she would just change and wake up and make an effort and speak louder and eat faster etc etc and then on the other hand i know how wrong this is to feel that way. Its not her fault.

We have tried counselling before, i hve written him letters, asked him to leave(he wouldn't) got his bro to speak to him. Nothing works with this man and i am literally at breaking point. Crying my eyes out typing this.
Please help

OP posts:
Iggly · 07/11/2011 14:01

The bit about the photo made me :(

You need to protect your DD. This man needs to go or you go, either way please put your child first.

PeppermintPasty · 07/11/2011 14:02

I am still hoping the OP will come back soon and say she needs to get rid. Of HIM of course. I agree there's an overtone in the post of hoping to send the daughter away? Hope I'm wrong Sad

SirHumphreyAppleby · 07/11/2011 14:03

Poor girl, you need to protect her from this arsehole that she has to live with through no fault of her own. Is your husband abusive towards you as well?

BertieBotts · 07/11/2011 14:03

Hang on. OP has said she has asked him to leave, and he won't. She may have made bad decisions in the past (haven't we all?) but if she needs support to end this relationship NOW, she ought to be able to find it here of all places.

SoupDragon · 07/11/2011 14:08

I am going to say something a little different.

Ignores him and focus on what you can do to help your daughter's confidence and self esteem.

bubblegumpop · 07/11/2011 14:09

I don't actually think she really wants that though BB. As she still sees him as the perfect Dad. She still sees her as the problem.

She is relieved when her own dd goes away. I think she is looking for the answer that will allow her dd to be happy by shipping her off and then allowing him to carry on being the perfect Dad with her around.

If it's who I think it is. It isn't going to change.

dontlikemondays · 07/11/2011 14:12

So me suggesting that DD travels to see her dad is actually encouraging that - oops. Still, if it gives her time away from the awful stepdad it would still be good for the DD. She might even decide to stay there, solving all the OPs troubles.

aleene · 07/11/2011 14:13

Bubblegum I don't agree, the OP knows there is a huge problem with this man's parenting and I don't think there are undertones of sending her away.

BB is right - the OP needs support to end this relationship and show her DD that she does come first.

BertieBotts · 07/11/2011 14:13

Well, it doesn't do any harm to give her the benefit of the doubt. It takes time to reach a shift in thinking patterns when you are in an abusive relationship.

buzzskeleton · 07/11/2011 14:17

If shipping off your dd is what you're thinking, OP, just think, the absence of the victim leaves the bully with a vacancy. Don't think that his biological children won't get the same treatment if the 'cuckoo' leaves the nest. When they're older, they'll have 'annoying' habits too.

bubblegumpop · 07/11/2011 14:18

I don't have much time for people who allow their kids to be treated like this.

Abusive relationship or not.

OP HAS a choice her CHILD DOSEN'T. It is so wrong she even considers laying the blame at her door, even for a second. A feeling of relief that the child has gone. She needs to direct he issues at him.

The way op talks about her own daughter speaks volumes in this case.

BertieBotts · 07/11/2011 14:20

That's fine, bubblegum. Go and spend your time somewhere else then.

bubblegumpop · 07/11/2011 14:23

No, I can stay here and give an opinion and advice if I like. It seems others agree also.

She talks about her own child, HER OWN CHILD, with disdain. How she is annoying when she eats, she wishes she could do xyz, she feels better when she is away.

It's not op I feel sorry for, it's the DD. OP needs to get a grip, before her own daughter gets old enough to disown her and grow up damaged, hating her mother.

I think that's the best kind of advice she is going to get.

OrmIrian · 07/11/2011 14:29

Sorry to say this about a man that you may love, but he is a shit!

13 yr olds need more love and support than younger kids IMO because they start to question themselves more. Tell him to fuck the fuck off, and then a bit more if he can't behave properly around her Angry

OrmIrian · 07/11/2011 14:30

Grrrrr!! Angry

sugarandspiceandallthingsnice · 07/11/2011 14:30

I reiterate what others have said about potential for ruining your relationship with your daughter. My parents divorced when I was in my teens and I was put in the same situation as your daughter (although without the half siblings). I moved out as soon as I could to live with my dad and it took my 20s to rebuild my relationship with my mum. He is still with her and I think our relationship has improved now I am an adult but I still have no time for him and rarely meet up with him and my mum without having to bite my tongue. I would hate to see your daughter in the same situation.

fluffystabby · 07/11/2011 14:32

Your poor daughter.

You need to sort this out and sort it out now and she should come first.

No man would be worth a single tear of my child's.

Who the fuck died and made him King? Why the fuck does everyone else have to kowtow to him and eat when he decrees he's hungry? Why can't he be hungry for a wee while.

He is the grown up, she's a CHILD. He's been in her life for 9 years and you've let this go on for this long.

Oh and he's a shit father.

phoenix2 · 07/11/2011 14:39

Wow thats alot of replies.
Yes he is abusive to me too (not physically but he treats me the same as he treats my dd more or less). He even says to me now when i speak that he can't hear a word i am saying.
I told him recently that i know he does'nt love me. He just said that if he didn't love me he would tell me! But i dont care about me anymore its my dd i need to help. And yes part of me thinks she might be happier out of this situation for her sake not mine (she sees her dad every weekend he comes home to his mothers btw). If i am ever going to get rid of him she can't be around because the blow out will be unbelievable and i do try and protect her from any shouting etc.
I have left before with the kids and come back, i have left without the kids and spent the night by a river during the summer (my dd was with her gm that night), i have begged him to leave, i have tried it all. I can't physically shove him out the door.
What you need to understand is that i am afraid of him and feel powerless to do anything about it. He is right about one thing - it is kiling me.
Like my dd i have absolutely no confidence left, i am exhausted and i hate my life. In fact i have gotten so good at pretending to the outsdie world that everything is ok and tempering his moods and trying to smooth things over for my dd as best i can that i actually don't know who i am anymore, i forget what its like to actually live and be myself.
I know i don't deserve my dd this is not news to me. I often think if my sister was her mother then this would never have happened to her. I know i have failed her but i feel its so far gone that i cant rescue the situation.
I never cry - ever - but am balling my eyes out now again. Am lost.

OP posts:
AbbyAbsinthe · 07/11/2011 14:39

The thing is, OP, you KNOW that this is happening. Had I known what was going on, I would have left him immediately, because my children are everything to me - not just the child with him, but the one that was there long before him.

You are risking her being scarred for life over this, honestly. You need to DO something.

bejeezus · 07/11/2011 14:41

BUT if OP is not going to leave the step dad, maybe it would be better for her ddi to go and live with her biological dad or grandmum? Rejection from your mum would be devastating but wouldn't it be less damaging than this? If she gets to live in a home with people who love her and support her?

AbbyAbsinthe · 07/11/2011 14:43

I really do sympathise. But you are the only one that has the power to do something - your daughter does not.

aleene · 07/11/2011 14:43

You can rescue this situation! You are not trapped. There is a way out and plenty people here will help you see that.

bejeezus · 07/11/2011 14:44

Oh, can you get SS involved? It's abuse. Can you get a court order to have him removed?

WhoWhoWhoWho · 07/11/2011 14:49

Your younger children are going to be just as damaged by all this as you and your DD are, you do realise that don't you?

Please give women's aid a call for some advice. I know it's a scary thing to think of doing but you can do it. You and your dcs deserve better. 0808 2000 247

AttilaTheMeerkat · 07/11/2011 14:50

Hi Phoenix2,

If you all continue to act as his victims he has won. Your mistake is basically trying to get your DD away from him; you ALL need to get away from this person.

I would suggest using Womens Aid; they are great in such cases and could give you the nouse ultimately to embark on a new and happier life for your DC and without this tool in it on a daily basis. You are NOT as powerless as you think you are; there is help out there for you but you yourself need to take that first and often the hardest step to do so for your sakes.

It is NEVER too late to leave someone abusive, never. It will only be too late when you are dead!.

You have a choice re this man; your children do not.

What sort of childhood do you want them all to have?. You are also imparting damaging lessons to these young people currently.