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DH & drink driving (again)

321 replies

abbdabb · 24/10/2011 19:59

I recently reported DH to the police regarding his drink driving, but nothing happened. He hasn't been stopped & continues to drink & drive.

Yesterday, he wanted to take DS out for lunch. I said they should get a taxi if he was going to drink. I know if he goes out for lunch it will involve lots of alcohol. DH told me to mind my own business, I was being a control freak.

In the end he went alone, DS stayed at home.

I'm obviously not getting through & need to find a way to talk to DH so that he will listen. How do I do this?

OP posts:
Cheeseandseveredfingersarnie · 24/10/2011 22:55

what do you mean anyfucker?

elportodelgato · 24/10/2011 22:55

I think he's got something on her - why is she so afraid to report him and leave him?

pollyblue · 24/10/2011 22:55

I've not read the OPs other threads and I'm away to my perch now so won't....OP, I'm not sure I understand why you posted because you seem to have so many excuses and "reasons" for your approach, and don't seem to be inclined to do anything to resolve things. None of us know the full circs of your situation, but I'm just left baffled by your lethargy (as it seems to me) about what is such a serious issue.

Please think very seriously about what has been said on here.

Bossybritches22 · 24/10/2011 22:56

Off to find a funny thread to cheer myself up.

Good night abddabb.

MidsomerM · 24/10/2011 23:00

You said previously he starts drinking at midday. Does he only work mornings? He is a serious alcoholic. If he had blood tests his liver function would be abnormal. There is no way he would get custody of the kids. No way at all.

You could resolve this situation if you wanted to, I just don't understand why you choose not to.

Please please please tell us what area he works in so we can try to keep our children safe from at least one drunken murderer. You owe us that much after all the advice and sympathy you've had here.

GypsyMoth · 24/10/2011 23:01

I'm wondering what hold he has too!!

Visa?
Finances?

garlicBreathZombie · 24/10/2011 23:01

By leaving, I wouldn't be saving him or anyone else for that matter.

You'd be saving your DC from the dysfunctional upbringing they currently have. DS declined to go for lunch - so your son is having to protect his own self by forecasting a parent's misbehaviour. Remember that from your own childhood? How do you feel about inflicting that on your children? How do you feel about your son having to watch out that his dad doesn't kill him?

It's not your role to save your husband. Perhaps a part of you feels you must try, because you couldn't save your mother. Do you realise this won't happen. The past can't be rewritten in the present.

But the past can be repeated in the present. Just like you're giving your DC the childhood responsibilities your sister suffered.

FWIW, I suspect he's not addicted to alcohol. People like him are not susceptible to addictions. They choose risk-taking behaviours and substance abuse to take their mind off the howling gap inside them, where there should be a personality.

squeakyfreakytoy · 24/10/2011 23:03

By leaving, I wouldn't be saving him or anyone else for that matter.

As you dont live together, then leaving him is a moot issue anyway. However by not cutting off your relationship with him, and making it clear that you find his behaviour in all aspects is wrong, you are condoning his actions.

AnyPhantomFucker · 24/10/2011 23:04

I feel dirty

I have never, ever said that on a MN thread, and I have been involved with some fucking humdingers

Signet2012 · 24/10/2011 23:06

Get the police phoned, explain what he is doing and ask a officer to sit round the corner and stop him routinely - his routine must be pretty similar if he works. If he loses his job etc then so be it.

I don't particularly care for the reasons why you cant leave him. I'm not asking you to, if you want to fuck up your kids lives that's your business but you DO NOT have the right to fuck up other people's lives - which by not forcing this drink driving issue is exactly what you are doing.

garlicBreathZombie · 24/10/2011 23:07

Whose name is on your house deeds, abbdabb? Is it mortgaged?
Are you legally married in the UK?

FabbyChic · 24/10/2011 23:10

Some women cannot be without the financial security, is that it?

Are you unable to stand on your own two feet, if you are legally married you are entitled to half of what he has.

Moodykat · 24/10/2011 23:14

Just wrote out a whole long post but deleted it. All that matters is that one day he will kill himself drink driving. TBH, I hope he does. That would teach him the lesson. I just pray to God that he doesn't kill anyone else when he does it.
If you are letting this man drink and drive then you could be directly responsible for his death. Even if you don't give a shit about your kids, or anyone else's kids, lives, at least report him to save his? (not that the selfish prick deserves it).
Oh, it turned out long anyway. This thread has made me really fucking angry. And I agree, please tell us which part of the country this man works in so we can try and avoid him. Angry Angry

GypsyMoth · 24/10/2011 23:14

On a thread a few weeks ago you say he works for both private and NHS?!

GypsyMoth · 24/10/2011 23:15

He earns 3k a week op says..,

madonnawhore · 24/10/2011 23:15

Maybe OP can't confide in anyone because her mum and brother are fighting cancer and there's already too much shit going on right now so she doesn't want to worry everyone?

I don't think we should be too hard on OP. It's very hard to explain how much of a number an alcoholic can do on your brain if you haven't been through it yourself.

As I'm reading this thread I just keep thinking of my poor, poor dad, who was in exactly the same position as OP (although, he was the breadwinner, so that part of the dynamic was different). And I feel like a lot of what you're saying to the OP, you could quite justifiably have said to my dad. But it breaks my heart to think of that because he only ever did what he thought was for the best. And as much as I think he got it wrong, I can't blame him for that.

We, as a family, found ourselves in this horrific situation with my mum being an alcoholic and we just muddled through it somehow as best we knew.

That's why, having been through it, I would hope that OP can have the benefit of mine and others' experience and follow the excellent advice she's had on here.

But she doesn't deserve the slating she's getting. She needs support to find the courage to leave.

I can't explain it, but when someone you love is an alcoholic, you feel so responsible. You imagine them losing their job and living in a shitty bedsit, slowly drinking themselves to death alone. And although that may be what inevitably has to happen in order for the rest of the family to 'save themselves', the thought of it is so harrowing that you try to find another way. So you minimise and compensate and compromise and enable. Because the idea of seeing them hit rock bottom is so heartbreaking. Even though that's what HAS to happen if they're ever going to get better.

Fuck, it's so hard.

OP you have my sympathy. I really hope you don't feel too got at. People's emotions are only running high because they really care.

Creamcake1 · 24/10/2011 23:16

All this woman needs is the balls to do something about this and she is the only person who can, this is hard for her and she probably knows what everyone thinks of her by letting this happen. Her kids prob mean the world to her and they are probably the ones she's thinking about the most which is why it's so hard but all the comments she recieves here should help her understand the harm he is doing, maybe this is what she needs, a point in the right direction, she can't confide in anyone which is why this is good for her, it's prob making her see the truth, no matter how much it's hurting, I hope something good comes from this.

MollieO · 24/10/2011 23:17

Sounds to me as if the OP has a lifestyle (income) that she doesn't want to give up so enables her dh to continue on his path to destruction whilst keeping her fingers crossed that he doesn't take anyone she knows (their dcs) with him.

One of the worst OPs I've read in my entire time on MN.

MollieO · 24/10/2011 23:19

My dentist does NHS (children) and private, so perfectly normal. Earnings of £3k per week wouldn't be unusual.

gomummygo · 24/10/2011 23:21

I was so hoping this was not going to be you, OP.

You CAN leave him, for some reason you don't want to.

You could have phoned the police any of the times he was actively driving and had him caught.

To me, both of those choices make you an enabler at this point.

I'm glad you didn't let your son go with him, I really am. But how many other people's sons and daughters are out there on the road when he is driving drunk?

How are you going to live with yourself when, inevitably, something really bad happens...and you didn't stop it? You knew, and you didn't stop it. How can you rationalize this?

I'm sorry if it sounds mean, but seriously, you must know there is absolutely no excuse for enabling this.

GypsyMoth · 24/10/2011 23:23

Yes but op said he was self employed so can't involve employers

Yet he is working for nhs? Could be my dentist...... Or yours?

FabbyChic · 24/10/2011 23:25

He could be any fucker on the road driving whilst your children are crossing the road.

Bastard.

Creamcake1 · 24/10/2011 23:32

Abbdabb-can't you see you are the person taking all the crap when it should be him, you have done nothing wrong, I think your trying to hold yourself together through this but it's getting harder everyday, it's also good that you've come out an admitted what he's doing, it takes alot to do that because look what your getting back-you don't deserve to be treated like this by him or anyone else.

Signet2012 · 24/10/2011 23:36

Abbdabb - The person who is supposed to love you and your DC's, loves drink more - cant you see that? He has put you in a horrible position and I do have some sympathy for you, I really do. You must do the right thing before he kills himself or worse: some innocent person either in his chair or in his car.

You need to fix this now, or forever live with the consequences.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 25/10/2011 07:22

Mollie is right - the OP does not want to give up her lifestyle, so puts up with this piece of scum.

There is a word for women like you, Abb.

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