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Support for those in emotionally abusive relationships 5

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ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 26/09/2011 21:50

Welcome!

This is the latest instalment in a series of threads for those who are in abusive relationships, those who have left abusive relationships, and those gearing to leave.

Come vent, share, give and receive support.

The first question you may be asking yourself as a new visitor to this thread is:

Am I being abused?

Verbal Abuse A wonderfully non-hysterical summary. If you're unsure, read the whole page and see if you're on it.
Emotional abuse from the same site as above
Emotional abuse a more heartfelt description
Signs of Abuse & Control Useful check list
Women's Aid: "What is Domestic Violence?" This is also, broadly, the Police definition.

OP posts:
bellsring · 19/10/2011 16:16

sweepit- your H has got everything set up to SUIT HIM. Do you find it a struggle to fulfil your plans, whereas he just gets on with his life, does what he wants, when he wants? Is it like a major achievement for you to organise to do something yourself? I bet you feel angry and resentful when he goes here and there to enjoy himself. He's okay. It suits HIM.(selfish pig).

sweepitundertherug · 19/10/2011 17:19

Oh yes bellsring I cannot do anything. He can do whatever he wants.
It's a MAJOR negotiation to do anything I want to do.

bellsring · 19/10/2011 17:47

Yes, I know the one. Convenient - for him, eg. he can change his work plans if he wants to suit him, but not to suit you? It's just to make sure he can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants without being accountable ever or answerable (and have no restrictions).

BibiBatsberg · 19/10/2011 23:00

Lovely threadmembers, I haven't been around much lately which is a bit crap really but I find myself reaching a different point on my journey, turning from compulsively reading to just being happy to 'be' if that makes sense.

It's been almost a year since I first found salvation on MN and am still so grateful for that.

As I was bouncing around my kitchen to various musical tunes this evening (and scrawling I love my life in the steamed up glass on the back-door Blush Smile) I was reminded of something I read in a self-help book years ago now and just have to share it.

I probably can't do it justice without the words as they were written but the basic sentiment is that our hearts are our own.

In more detail the book passage basically said that whatever we feel, our own hearts generate.

That sounds a bit blaming really doesn't it when it comes to the emotions that are not so nice to feel, but more importantly, the really good and great ones too.

Whenever we've felt/feel in love, overwhelmed by the beauty of our children, family, pets, work etc it's us who have made/generated these feelings, they are our own and we can 'make' them again anytime we like.

That always comes to me whenever I'm feeling down or particularly lonely (am struggling to get used to these much colder, darker nights which always tend to trigger these sort of feelings for me for a while)

Well, time to put on the portable daylight lamp for me obviously, hope this makes some sort of sense and sending you all love and strength to feel what you can and need to :)

I'm also reminded at this point about a recent FB post of a fellow Mumsnetter which I loved - the truth shall set you free - but first it will piss you off!

Grin
Misspixietrix · 19/10/2011 23:06

how Hard is this? we're seperated and he's still making my life hell :( Came round to see the DC's again tonight but now he has a bee in his bonnet because someone's told him his WTC might be stopped, wtf has that got to do with me now? does anyone know if he can still claim WTC if he's single? I've had to write letters to confirm I kicked him out, etc, I just want him to get his own flat sorted then maybe just maybe he might leave me alone!! Confused

LittleHouseofHorror · 20/10/2011 00:25

Evening Bibi and MissPixie it has been cold tonight and is good to be tucked up wth a hot drink and warm socks and blanket!

Sorry Pixie that you are being vexed. When his bee is buzzing just tune him out. Remember "Detach detach detach!" If you don't reward him with attention he will look elsewhere for someone to prey on talk to.

I agree with what you said Bibi about the journey. You and I escaped from our unhappy situations over a year ago and our lives have moved forward and we are happier and whole. When we were struggling in the mire there were others who helped us out and set us on the way forward.

Those on this thread who are still trying to understand their situation and make sense of the torment their particular twat puts them through will be where we are in a year hopefully. And they will be encouraging as yet unknown MN posters with good cheer and passing on the words of wisdom and the Bible of St Lundy of Bancroft.

headnotheart · 20/10/2011 04:08

pixie yes I think he can claim WTC on his own. That was the basis of our exchange as reported upthread (not very far, don't worry!)

I paid our credit card from the joint account yesterday, and he hadn't stopped the DD for his NI, which I had asked him to do the day before. So I did. Then I told him. He said he was "outraged"! I have said I wan't happy it not coming out of his own account several times. He also thought he could get me over the credit card - he asked what it was for, obviously thought it was stuff I had bought for me! - wind taken out of his sails when I said it was the car breakdown service for both of us.

Misspixietrix · 20/10/2011 11:01

Thanks hnh will have a look in a min when I've finished lurking the housework :o I really need to sort this out now, seeing DC's again this morning before he suddenly starts dropping suicide threats again if I stop him seeing the DC's, I haven't said I'm stopping him, I said we need to sort out a more suitable arrangement as he can't just keep turning up at stupid o clock when he's finished work as it's confusing for them A friend told me that if I got really concerned for him I could ring

Misspixietrix · 20/10/2011 11:05

the GP's up for him as still technically his wife I could explain it to them & that he might need to see someone. I actually said something really horrible in retturn to him which made me feel guilty :( Just glad dd didn't twig what he was saying & ds was too busy inhaling his weetabix to notice! :) x

MadameWooOOoovary · 21/10/2011 16:34

Pixie read what you've written. You are seperated. Do you think six months ago you would be here now? Of course it wont stop him being an arse, he's still reeling that you dared to stand up to him. But do not for one minute stop congratulating yourself on how far you have come!

LittleHouseofHorror · 21/10/2011 17:58

Just had a hilarious egg incident which reminded me of what I am not missing. DS16 told me they had too many eggs back at the ranch and gave me four.
H got in a stress with him for giving them to me and me for taking them.
(I remember now he likes to number them and everyone has to use them in the right order).
I have made a fulsome apology and returned the eggs.
This is silliness! Eggs FFS!!

BibiBatsberg · 21/10/2011 18:08

That's the sort of unreasonable awkward person you are though LittleHouse Grin

Accepting unordered eggs, TUT!

Orderliness in all things, including eggs is as we all know, next to godliness :)

As you say, FFS! Can't begin to imagine what that was like to have to live with (among all the other crap)

Nice to be reminded of all the stuff we're NOT missing sometime.

LittleHouseofHorror · 21/10/2011 18:21

Have had a lovely day today though.
I have made a big lemon drizzle cake which is cooling. (I bought those eggs!)
I am also planting gooseberry bushes and red white and blackcurrants and looking forward to lots of lovely summer fruit next year.

Perhaps I could number the currants... Grin

LittleHouseofHorror · 21/10/2011 18:22

54321, 54322, 54323 etc... Grin

BibiBatsberg · 21/10/2011 18:41

Lemon Drizzle, drool! Sounds like you've made yourself a lovely life now.

What a difference a year makes, really happy for you!

MadameWooOOoovary · 21/10/2011 18:55

PMSL at the egg incident and twitchy ex Grin

iwillbefree · 21/10/2011 19:15

Lol at counting the eggs!!!

Havent been on for a while - still trying to sort my head out with what I am going to do. Me and DCs still at home. I have been back about 4 weeks now. For those who dont know, controlling husband who said he would change. Couldnt lay in bed without him complaining I move too much (and so much more).

When I came back he was fine for a while. The cracks are starting to show and I have realised the nicer I am to him, the more he starts the controlling behaviour! why is this, I dont get it. Been really nice to him over the past couple of days, in this time he has tapped the gear stick in the car as in his opinion I was in the wrong gear, I said "if you touch that once more I'm going to shove it up your arse", he replied "well this car does have 5 gears you know". Then he wouldn't let me have a nap before going to work, I was asleep and he kept nudging my head telling me I had phone calls to make for the utilities (he calls do need making but not at that precise moment), I said I was really tired and just needed 10 mins nap - he said "I'll let you have a sleep when you come in".

He's told me to keep still twice in bed - I told him he's getting on my fucking nerves saying this, he laughed it off.

So:
Is it starting again, or am I looking for every little thing now I know what to look for. I dont know how I feel about him. I had a brief kiss with a friend of a friend and didnt feel guilty (nothing else happened).

opinions/advice appreciated!

IWBF xx

BibiBatsberg · 21/10/2011 22:23

Oh Iwillbefree, what a situation you're putting up with.

I can't wait for the time when you are truly free of this total arse - to think you can't even have a nap without being poked awake makes me very angry for you.

He hasn't started again, he never stopped. I think every time things seem to settle down again he just thinks you've climbed back in your box and his tactics have 'worked'

I was cheering when i read your responses to the gear stick tapping etc - you're getting stronger and it won't be long before you'll feel able to tell him to stick his abuse where the sun doesn't shine forever.

Everything crossed here for you getting to that point in time very soon!

iwillbefree · 21/10/2011 22:36

Thanks so much for replying Bibi, it means alot, I feel really alone at the moment. Really trying to learn to trust my feelings, but when you havn't had your own opinion for years its sooo hard.

I do feel stronger and I know its a journey, but I am paranoid people are thinking stop moaning and do something about it so I'm trying not to say too much to people.

I need to think about money and try and put some away, in the short time I left I quickly realised how I will need some money put aside. I am going to try and focus on that for now. I've got that constant lump in my throat that I know is stress but worrying its the nasty C.

Self pity post over!

Thanks again bibi

IWBF xx

BibiBatsberg · 21/10/2011 23:21

Yes, i know what you mean re. not having had an opinion of your own for years, was the same myself for many years.

That's why I was cheering for you when I saw you're managing to give some choice responses to his crap!

The more you find your strength the more he will fight to get back to the state where he had you completely under his thumb but you can and will get out of this situation and be happy and able to live freely again.

Easy to shout leave him, harder to do but you will get there.

Keep posting and planning and thinking - and it's not remotely self pitying either - it's essential for you right now to be able to talk about all of this and 'try on' the new life your planning (among other things)

Thinking of you and cheering you on :)

bellsring · 22/10/2011 12:16

Is it a common trait that these partners/ex partners are of the belief that no matter what they do, you should be able to communicate decently with them, whether you are still with them, or when they become your ex and they continue attempting to stab you in the back (metaphorically speaking) behind the scenes eg financially,emotional blackmail using the dc etc., and then give you their 'educated'(!) opinion of you continually, eg 'you're selfish, immature, difficult, uncooperative'............

foolonthehill · 22/10/2011 15:24

Hi everyone...hoping that there is someone out there today....need my hand holding....

have made plans for "the big talk" tomorrow...children out of the way at friends, support people tee-ed up to prevent (hopefully) violence.
I'm full on scared...not so much of the talk...but of afterwards...he's supposed to be going off to work abroad tomorrow evening until Wednesday allowing him to cool off and me to get ready....somebody tell me what else to do other than change the locks????? ( it's the marital home so legally I think he's allowed here...there's no restraining order or anything).

foolonthehill · 22/10/2011 15:25

what if he won't go???

HerScaryness · 22/10/2011 15:27

OK, what are you going to tell your STBX? that he needs to not come back after Wednesday? or that he will need to find somewhere else to live?

HerScaryness · 22/10/2011 15:29

If he won't go and is violent, call the police, they will remove him, you can then go about getting non-mol orders (I think)

Why not call the local police DV unit for advice? or WA?

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