The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Sweeping Into Autumn With A One Way Ticket To Sobriety.

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Phew, just in time!

I'm mouse and I love a few to drink. I love all things cheese and I love MrMouse

Welcome to the Bus. We are a collection of drinkers, non-drinkers, and those who are somewhere in between but we all have the same thing in common, we can't just have 1 drink and then stop.

Come say hi, we don't bite .

Here are the other threads to date, if you have a spare hour or seven to kill.

OUR HISTORY

MOUSE!!! im in shock! i think my feet would wither and die if i asked them to wear those things! zany has the right idea!, i have some wedge espradrills that will do nicely!

Zany - those are hideous! I do however own a pair of Timberlands. not, I hasten to add, with white soles.

Jesus - you really do need to get with the programme though - my fashion expert friend reliably informs me that loafers and brogues are the shoes du jour (see eg fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG8698187/Going-for-brogues.html this article). I am planning to go and buy myself a pair of Church's brogues on Monday (with all the dosh I have saved from not drinking). Luckily for me I have at least three pairs of loafers in a box somewhere upstairs that I have been saving for a time when loafers come back into fashion.

,that was the first and possibly last conversation I have ever engaged in on the subject of shoes>

lets try that again

They are quite snazzy Legal. I love shoes but I'm a size 8 so find it hard to find many, my DD is only 8 and she tries on shoes every time we go shopping just to 'see how they look'

you can often get some really good deals on small and big sizes at www.brandalley.co.uk. I know because I can never get my size.

I quite like these (awaits snorts of derision from Jesus).

right, must go out, am late for 12 o'clock appointment...

I bet they will be non slip Jesue so ideal I think

Oi, you lot, don't you know that boat shoes are so very now, according to Kate Middleton and the Daily Fail:

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2017334/Kate-Middleton-Duchess-Cambridge-Sebago-Bala-deck-shoes.html

Mouse - come over here for a big hug. I may even have some chocolate cake to hand, and definitely have lots of Berocca. Will give you some tough love later if you want it, but in the meantime, have lots of soft snuggly love (will also confess to wanting a DH like yours!)

TheBoss - tough love not needed, I am beating myself up just fine thank you DD is furious with me. She witnessed me puking and falling over last night. What a complete fuck up I am. Her friend stayed over too.

She must be so embarrassed by me.

noteven - do you know something, all I can think about right now is having a hair of the dog to kick this hangover into touch so nope, I don't think I have had enough yet. After everything I have been told that I did last night, I still want an ice cold pint of beer and a huge plate of salty chips.

Mouse, there is not a thing you can do about it now, it happened!
You are not a complete fuck up, don't even think that for a second! You are a fantastic woman under an enormous amount of pressure who had too much to drink last night, that's all.

Mouse - It's ok not to have had enough yet - it wasn't meant to be facetious or judgemental as a question. God knows I needed it to get pretty bad. What do you think of the thinking that is convincing you that another drink is a good idea given the shame and remorse you feel, especially around DD and your DH? Is it in any way logical or sensible?
If you ever do want to dip your toe into an AA meeting, I can come down and go with you, I won't keep saying it but the offer is always, always there.

I know you're not judging me noteven

I actually can't get my head around this line - What do you think of the thinking that is convincing you that another drink is a good idea given the shame and remorse you feel

Do you mean that I should be thinking about another drink given how bad I feel about upsetting DD and having DH look after me? As in, is that not enough to make you want to stop?

That is really nice of you re AA, thank you xx

Sorry, it's probably me not putting it over very well. It doesn't make you have had enough, does it? It certainly never did me. I could write a list of all the things I've done that were crazy and damaging, all the reasons not to drink, and they all disappear into this mental black hole when I think about alcohol. I couldn't find a reason not to do it. Even though there were many, many good reasons. And that's what convinced me that there was something wrong with my thinking. Whereas I, like you, am an intelligent woman in all other respects, I have a blind spot when it comes to alcohol. Still can do, if I want to go back there. Of course, it might be that you still have alcohol in your system which will be giving you the physical feeling that you need a drink. I have to go out in a bit to see my counsellor but be thinking of you this afternoon. x

Ah, yes, now I see what you mean.

mouse my sweet, I'm sending even more soft fluffy love your way, definitely no tough love needed. Don't be so hard on yourself and don't look back, just start the day with a new promise to yourself. What can we do that would be helpful for you? Talking about it or distracting you from it? It's ok if today all you can do is distraction.

Forgive my clumsy words, am just trying to repay just a teeny weeny tiny bit of the amazing kindness you've shown me over the last few weeks. Xx

Thank you TheBoss xx

I'm consoling myself with a giant cheese sarnie!

mouse - i think wanting to get a cold beer right now even though you know that your dd is pissed off with you shows an alkie turn of mind! im not being harsh, i love you loads, but i do think you now have to consider this 'controlled drinking' thing you have been on, cos babe, it aint! enough said from me, you know my number if you ever want to chat!

im sorry, but i am snorting with derision! nothing on gods earth would ever induce me to put such ugly things on my feet!, not even an endorsment from the chief wisteria girl! i dont think sailing is for me!

OK mouse forget the beer, what else could you have that's bitter and fizzy and cold? Grapefuit juice with tonic? Not enough of a 'hoppy' taste, then add a spoonful of marmite [vomit]. On second thoughts, just do without the marmite. Have that with salty chips, or crips.

Do you remember all that time way back, when you first came on here, when you first recognised that something was going wrong? Can you get back in touch with how you felt then? I remember that you thought that it would be impossible for you not to drink vodka. Yet look at how well you HAVE done. What makes you think you can't do that again? Is it just you feeling sorry for yourself because of your hangover? Is it that you believe you're not ready? How much are you prepared to go through before it does feel like the right time?

If it sounds as though I'm being a bit tougher than the others, it's only because I don't think you can bear for anything else to go wrong. I know that it's not fair that you have so much on your plate, I know it's not fair that you have so much to worry about. And I know it's not fair that you're in so much pain. But please don't add to it, just for tonight, give yourself a break. Come on here and rant at the unfairness of things, shout at me for being unsupportive and cruel, but give your poor tired body a wee break.

Omg, one of the things I miss about the uk is cheese. I mean, you can buy it here, but it's rubbery and rancid. Decent cheese costs more than I can justify even for a good hangover cure!

Chief Wisteria made me spit my tea on my screen

Ok, off to buy langoustines for tea. See you all later x

venus - how are you being unsupportive? You're RIGHT! I need to rein it in. I can go for days with a drink and then bam. I'll go on a bender.

It's not helping me, not at all. It's adding to my pain, my worries, it's something else for me to think about isn't it?

You're right. Thank you xx

JWN - thank you too.

mouse nothing to add that the others haven't said. Cut yourself some slack and chuck out any left over booze so you can get an early night tonight hopefully and feel better tomorrow. You are an inspiration to us all, always will be. If you are feeling crap can I have MrMouse?

Ma!!! You tart!

Oi, hands off, I got first dibs

Pint of water number 6. I'm peeing for England!

Has wantto been back? I hope she can find this thread........

And where on earth is MIF? I'm actually worried about him.

Peeing is good, it means you're rehydrating. I think. Don't drink too much pure water though, do you have any squash in the house. They give you weak orange squash to drink in hospital if you need tonrehydrate rather than water.

What are your weekend plans, any temptation there?

Havent seen miflaw for ages and ages. Hope he's ok.