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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Sweeping Into Autumn With A One Way Ticket To Sobriety.

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Mouseface · 01/09/2011 12:53

Phew, just in time!

I'm mouse and I love a few to drink. I love all things cheese and I love MrMouse Grin

Welcome to the Bus. We are a collection of drinkers, non-drinkers, and those who are somewhere in between but we all have the same thing in common, we can't just have 1 drink and then stop.

Come say hi, we don't bite Smile.

Here are the other threads to date, if you have a spare hour or seven to kill. Wink

OUR HISTORY

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notevenamousie · 02/09/2011 08:28

tawdryhepburn well done for coming here and posting. That first admission is hard, emotionally especially, and you have done it now. Do you feel able to talk about how much you drink? Who else is at home? Don't worry if not. Talking and typing are both really good for getting it "out there" and it loses its power. Try not to think about tonight, get through the day first. I will be in and out today and there is always someone around to chat.

TBoM well done you!!! Apples are better than chocolate which keeps becoming my replacement crutch. I bet you never thought you'd be saying that today? If someone is always in rehab, it sounds like your circle of friends might be more accepting than you first shared about you feeling that alcohol had become a problem for you?

I need to get moving this morning - be back later once I have delivered the cake and got the very last and final one in the oven.

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dementedma · 02/09/2011 08:57

*I just need to grasp the nettle and be strong. I feel so much better when I don't drink, I can't really understand the hold it has on me.

Just a habit, I suppose.*

Tawdry - that could have been written by me.that's why I am here. There are no quick fixes - that's why I am still here Grin
You are very welcome. Being the designated driver is a good strategy as people will be grateful to you and remark on what a kind thoughtful person you are Grin

Bafana - thanks for breakfast. Where's the Irn Bru?

legalalien · 02/09/2011 09:09

Hi tawdry- sounds like you are pretty much where I was five weeks ago. (except that DH didn't and doesn't drink nearly so much as me, I would wake up on the sofa at more like 10 or 11pm, and I didn't suffer from the terrible hangovers).

I am aiming to cut down my drinking on a long term basis rather than give up completely (cowardice? Grrr!!! you will be made to retract that statement Grin). So for the last five weeks I have been alcohol free Sunday to Thursday and have given myself permission to drink as much as I like on Fridays and Saturdays. I am finding that I am gradually choosing to drink less on those days.

There have been quite a few wobbles along the way (mostly at about 5.30pm - the "witching hour" for me as well as you, it sounds) but the babes have been enormously helpful in shoring up my resolve and giving me tips to get through social events (including one incident where I was made to pour my newly poured gin and tonic down the sink!). They (and maybe even I to some extent) can help you too. I am usually on and off this thread between about 5 and 6pm.

A word of warning from recent experience - be prepared to feel really, really crap for the first 4-7 days, and a bit less crap for a reasonable period of time after that. Your body needs to recover. Some people seem to feel better reasonably quickly, I am just starting to do so now. Stock up on vitamins B and C and some iron, and plenty of enjoyable non-alcoholic drinks. I am working my way through the range of Belvoir cordials and have drunk way more than my weight in Pelligrino mineral water (BTW, the cranberry one is quite good!).

Re dinner- I would tell your friend early in the evening - "I'm not drinking tonight and I'll explain later" so that she doesn't order a bottle of wine which you are then tempted to share.

Otherwise, hi everyone, well done TBoM. I had to google Abernethy biscuits, and it reminded me that I hadn't had seed cake for about a million years. It used to be my grandfather's favourite. I don't suppose any of you baking types has a seed cake recipe?

venusandmars · 02/09/2011 09:12

Hi tawdry I'm another one dropping in briefly this morning before rushing off out to a meeting. Well done for posting on here - that's a big step in itself.

bafana's advice is exactly what I would suggest: make sure that you are not too hungry (I could easily mistake hunger for wanting a drink, so would be gaggin for the first G&T), and eat lunch, then have an apple/banana mid afternoon. Make sure that you are not thirsty - so have a really big drink of water before you go out. Plan in advance what you are going to drink for your first and 2nd drinks, and with your meal. If there are just 2 of you, and neither of you are drinking then it is easier because there will be no wine bottle on the table (if YOU don't order it). If you're going out with a group then sit near to your driving friend and copy her. When she says no to wine, you say no to wine.

Most of all concentrate on how much you enjoy the food and the company without having a drink. The startegy about not being too hungry / thirsty will also make you appreciate you food - you won't rush for all the heavy stuff but will choose lovely things that really appeal to you for the taste. You will notice when you are getting full, or whether you really have just a little room left for a lovely teeny, tiny pudding Grin.

And finally plan what you will hve when you get home - a nice cup of tea, a refreshing drink of juice, herbal tea? And punch the air with happiness and exhuberance when you go to bed, thinking "well done tawdry, you CAN do it".

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scattyspice · 02/09/2011 09:18

Morning all hi tawdry. I too have the problem of a dh who doesn't (or didn't) want me to quit, although thanks to the help from these girls we have sorted some of that out this week. A useful strategy for me has been not to make sweeping statements to other people ('I'm never drinking again' etc) but to do it quietly and 1 day at a time with reasons/excuses at the ready (like offering to drive or claiming a cold etc).

This weekend Mum is staying so I plan to buy some wine for her but drink lime soda myself (I plan to have 1 beer but sip it after I've filled up on soda). If I can do this on Fri, Sat and Sun and have a hangover free weekend I will be happy Smile.

bafanatheSober · 02/09/2011 09:21

Hands ma an Irn Bru - shaking head - for breakfast ma really Grin

tawdry my dp was also a drinker who didn't see it as a problem, and "sabotaged" my attempts to stop drinking alot last year!

I had tried to stop drinking since - properly since Jan 2010, took until 24 Nov 2010 for it to actually stick in my head, that I could one day at a time, I don't worry about not drinking next week, next month or even tomorrow, I choose not to drink today, and let tomorrow take care of itself.

Well am at work now, only here for 3 hours as off to a conference all weekend. The hotel has a lovely health suite and I am looking forward to pampering myself! Changed days, where I only seemed to see the inside of the bar Grin.

scattyspice · 02/09/2011 09:21

x posts legal and venus wise words.

jesuswhatnext · 02/09/2011 09:49

BOING!!!!

gosh!, took me ages to find you!, i was having a little panic!

tawdry - you brave babe! Grin you have had some fantastic advice already and if you look back over old threads you will be amazed to read 'your' first post again and again, its such a familiar story!, you will also see how the posts progress over time, from our first desperate ones, to the chatty up-beat ones that happen over just a few weeks! - you really can do this you know! - like you, im an 'all or nothing' kinda gal Grin,i have extreme emotions, ive made extreme lifestyle choices and thought that i could never get better, that life would always be a chaotic rollercoaster (fun at 30, a nightmare at nearly 50!) be prepared for feeling crappy and possibly a bit depressed, it does pass! tell your friends and get as much support as you can, i found (and still do) that my friends really want to support me as much as possible, my bf even gave up herself as she was so desperate to help! - i find that the cravings do subside (although at times they can get you like a punch in the stomach) they become easier to cope with and ride out and the longer i feel so well and 'boingy' the less i want to lose that feeling, the thought of a hangover is truely horrific - i cant believe i went all those years feeling crap, missing days while i was in bed, feeling guilty, worried about what i had done and said, NIGHTMARE!

anyway, get your strategy planned in your head, take it a day at a time, slowly does it and all that Grin and you will get your first day under your belt!

i have the day off (yippee!!! Grin) am going into town to 'window shop' Wink and then out for dinner this evening (v posh, m&d golden wedding celebration) on a boat though, what the bloody hell can i wear on my feet? Grin

TheBossofMe · 02/09/2011 10:05

tawdry welcome onto the bus and as our newest joiner, you get our comfiest seat with the best view out of the window.

legal and venus speak very wise words indeed. I was unprepared for how crap I felt after stopping drinking, and hadn't thought enough about vits and also about sugar - you may find your body really craves the sugar it used to get from alcohol, so maybe have some sweet treats or fruit around to deal with that. Here are a few other tips I've found helped me:

If out for dinner, ask the waiter to remove your wineglass from the table at the start of the meal to avoid the "accidentally filled so I may as well drink it" temptation.

Find some lovely non-alcohol cocktails or drinks to have when you used to "enjoy" a drink - for me, I love a drink on the balcony after DD is in bed on a Fri/Sat night, so I now have a pomelo juice with crushed raspberries and soda or fizzy water (goes all pretty and layered into different shades of pink Grin). And I have a bowl of apples on the balcony table - when I want a drink, I pick one of those up and munch away instead

Cooking - always a problem for me, since I love to cook and regularly got sloshed before I even served dinner. Avoid alcohol soaked food if you can. If you need alcohol in food, buy small bottles (yes, they are poorer value compared to big bottles, but think of how expensive it would be to buy a new liver [only half joking emoticon goes here] and suddenly they seem v good value indeed). If any is left over, no matter how little, it either gets thrown straightaway, or if like me you are a miser and can't abide waste, diluted with a bit of water and salt (rendering it undrinkable) and straight into the freezer in an icecube tray for the next time you cook.

Re DH - my husband is also giving up at the same time (he is in AA), so i have no wise words to offer there. Except maybe one, which is that you have to become selfish for a bit and focus on you and your needs (wise words from Mouse to me early on in my journey) So I actually don't get involved in my husband's plans to drink or not drink - the first time we've jointly discussed strategy is for this weekend's dinner party, for obvious reasons. I don't know if he's had a drink (I don't think he has) and I don't really care - because I'm doing this for me and his problems have to remain his own problems for the time being. I also don't think I could bear the sadness if he made more failed promises to me (we've been here with his drinking a few times before). So you need to detach from your DH a bit atm - if he pours you a drink, just get up straightaway and pour it away or back in the bottle. FWIW, my DH and I became each other's enablers with drinking - we became the reason why the other didn't stop. So he might surprise you yet.

notevenamousie - I actually think I may have been a bit blind to the fact that alcoholism is clearly rife here. Confided in my two closest friends here about the not drinking, and they immediately starter saying, oh well, of course so and so had to do the same thing last year, and so and so was in rehab so also doesn't drink. I think I just didn't notice the non-drinkers or low-level drinkers, which also gives me hope that others won't notice me so much or make a big deal out of it.

Mouseface · 02/09/2011 10:19

I am so bloody stupid. I got absolutely shit faced last night and I am so upset by it.

What is wrong with me? FFS.

Thank you bafana I really need your breakfast this morning. Smile xx

Welcome tawdry - sorry, I'm no use to you today but I see that you are being well looked after by the other Babes Smile

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legalalien · 02/09/2011 10:35

Mouse? Was it the champagne what done it?

legalalien · 02/09/2011 10:36

btw jesus, what you need are boat shoes Grin

bafanatheSober · 02/09/2011 10:38

Hands mouse big mug of tea and roll.
Also soft pillows and a big cozy duvet.

Worried about you my little mouse friend. Twas obviously not your intention for the evening to turn out the way it did, can you pinpoint why?
Hungry, angry, lonely, tired??

No pressure to talk about it, if you don't feel up to it. Please please don't beat yourself up though, it is a useless waste of energy. Just concentrate on you and Nemo this morning (hug)

jesuswhatnext · 02/09/2011 10:58

doh mouse! you old nitwit! Smile you arnt stupid!, just struggling!!

just a thought - you are taking LOADS of medicine right now, perhaps they dont 'mix' too well with the alcohol? Grin just a thought of course! Grin

we need to get you back in the zone really dont we! now my girl, wipe your face and dry your tears, get some breakfast and CALM DOWN!! its not the end of the world! lets just start again! Smile and a (((((hug)))))) from your old mate jesus!

btw - what the buggery do boat shoes look like? i have a feeling they are flat and plimsol like! uggghhhh!!! shudder! Grin

Mouseface · 02/09/2011 11:03

Thanks Babes - this is what I love more than anything about this Bus, you can be a complete arse and still be looked after on here.

And DH is a star, I threw up and he put me to bed, gace me my meds and 2 pints of water. I slept in Nemo's bed.

Do you know, I have no idea what triggered last night. Maybe the stress worrying about MIL, Nemo needing special walking shoes and it being something else to add to his list, my own shite health, I just don't know bafana

I wish it was Champagne legal, it was wine! After all I said, I drank 4 large glasses of white and had 4 shots of Zambuca after that! What a complete muppet.

What I do know is that these little 'episodes' are getting more frequent again.

So now I need to think long and hard about why.

I'm going to stay here today if that's okay. I need to snuggle on the back seat and drink my berocca, OJ, and Diet Coke, and eat until this headache buggers off.

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Mouseface · 02/09/2011 11:04

Jesus hugged me! I am blessed Wink

THESE ARE BOAT SHOES Grin

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Mouseface · 02/09/2011 11:08

Yes, actually I shouldn't be drinking at all on these meds. 60mg of morphine twice daily FFS. Who knows what could happen! Not to mention my ADs. I'm on the highest dose of those too, maybe it's time to be honest with my GP Sad

DH said that I offered to walk my friend home (she was pretty drunk too) but he stopped me and offered to do it himself. She lives over the level crossing in the village so he was worried I'd end up wandering up the track. Blush

He made her phone when she got in, which she did and then she text me.

He put me to bed. Got my PJs on, the lot. How nice is that? I'm not so sure I'd have the same amount of sympathy if it was him.

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Mouseface · 02/09/2011 11:09

Sorry to all the Brave Babes* for hijacking the thread with my me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meeeeeeeeeeeeeee posts.

How are we all today? Plans for the weekend?

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Zanywany · 02/09/2011 11:10

Mouse please don't beat yourself up too much, you have absolutley loads of stress going on right now on top of being in alot of pain and spending so much of your time/energy with lovely Nemo not to mention your DD, DH and MIL. Put it behind you as a blip, look after yourself and today is another day so come out from under the seat and sit with us. x

Jesus how about espradills Grin

bafanatheSober · 02/09/2011 11:10

Wow, I had forgotten how ugly boat shoes actually are, although I am pretty sure that I had something very similiar in my late teens/early twenties Grin. And I very definitely cannot see Jesus gracing her feet with them!!

Cuddle up mouse and we shall look after you.

notevenamousie · 02/09/2011 11:24

Big hugs for Mouse from me too. We're not going to tell you what's wrong with you lovely, what do you think is wrong with you?

It's done and over. What are you going to do about it today? Have you had enough yet?

Zanywany · 02/09/2011 11:29

How about these Jesus Grin Grin

www.houseoffraser.co.uk/Dune+Lainey+d+boat+shoes/153395675,default,pd.html

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