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MadameOvary · 30/08/2011 15:31

Hello everyone - end of last thread kind of took us by surprise!
Will copy in links etc

OP posts:
Mouseface · 01/09/2011 13:13

Breakfree

What an utter piece of shite he is treating you like that.

Are you not leaving because you are too scared to be on your own? Sorry if I've missed a huge chunk of your history.

Can I ask if you want to leave? Plan to leave? xx

HerHissyness · 01/09/2011 15:55

Breakfree, love, get advice FAST wrt the lease. if you can simply fill it in and no longer have his name on it and it be legal, DO IT!

Can you afford to finance the rent if he gets the hump and naffs off leaving you in the shit? If so, make sure he can't legally challenge the lease and if he can't GO for it!

bigbuttons · 01/09/2011 16:39

Hooray have found you all. I'm fucking livid with the SW's report, got it today and I think he's really overstepped the mark in some areas.

HerHissyness · 01/09/2011 17:30

Who has over stepped the mark SW or H?

bigbuttons · 01/09/2011 17:47

In this instance the SW

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 19:19

Mouseface - Yes, (unfortunately) am still living in the same house. Still waiting to be top of the council list. Am about 15th on the list for a 4 bed. But there has been nothing to even BID on for the last 4 weeks.

Ended up having a row with him. DS2 was blatantly lying to me to avoid a punishment, and when that didn't work, he turned on the waterworks. I refused to let DS2 off the hook, and when DS2 had gone upstairs, Ex-P said that I was going to make DS2 afraid to show his emotions. So I explained to Ex-P that DS2 was trying to get his own way by crying, and Ex-P was arguing that people get upset when they are being told off. I calmly explained that an almost 8yo who has watched his father do the same is quite capable of crying to get his own way, that's not the ight way to be, I don't want DS2 to think that that is the right thing to do, and I was trying to teach him that he cannot get around people like that.

If DS2 WAS afraid to show his emotions with me, he wouldn't come to me for cuddles when he misses our (sadly departed) black lab.

Wonder exactly WHERE DS2 gets the idea that tears get him whatever he wants...maybe his father and his grandmother??!!

Trying hard to break the cycle, but worried it may be too late, DS2 is almost 8yo now.

garlicnutter · 01/09/2011 19:44

calmly explained that an almost 8yo who has watched his father do the same is quite capable of crying to get his own way, - Well done Grin

There have been quite a few posts recently, some on this thread I think, about how DC have reacted after losing the abusive dad. It seems you can look forward to a trying year or so (now, won't that make a change?!) and your patient explanations, re-training, etc, will start to pay off in the second year.

FWIW, I'm convinced that certain sane & compassionate adults saved me from becoming as terminally weird as (most of) my sibs. The first of them was my teacher at ages 9 & 10. She had violet eyes :)

garlicnutter · 01/09/2011 19:45

I forgot say, loudlass, how impressed I am by your travel plans!! It sounds like my idea of hell tbh, but ... WOW!!!!

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 20:18

God - I may go insane if it's going to take that long. And maybe it'd take less time if he didn't SEE his dad. Who still does stuff like that. As does my Ex-MIL. Shame that's not possible!!

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 20:19

Oh - coach, plane, coach. DS's and iPods for the older 3. I've done it before with an 18 month old, but there was only the one then. Am hoping it won't be too bad, DS3 will be 18 months-ish by then.

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 20:22

bigbuttons - if it's not too much to ask - what way did the SW's report overstep the mark? (Have had lots of dealings with SW's in the past, know what the things they say can/do mean...). You can get reports amended if you disagree with something.

bigbuttons · 01/09/2011 21:21

can you loudlass He was drawing conclusions that I think only a trained psychologist can do. He also wrote that I had kept on having children because of some unmet emotional needAngry.
I will write some of them down tomorrow.

I feel so awful I can't begin to describe. I feel like I'm going through an emotional torture chamber and I honestly don't know if I can take it.

Please can you tell me of your experiences with SW?

Reading his report was like reading a newspaper interview where things I told him where written down totally out of context to completely skew the meaning. Does that make sense?

Of course the report said that both buttons and mr buttons say that they are being abused.

BibiBlocksberg · 01/09/2011 21:30

Oh buttons, I have zero experience with what your going through re SW but just wanted to say my thoughts are with you. Mr Buttons is going through abuse? What the actual F.......!

On a more flippant note - excellent train stations Hissy and glad to say they're all stops assigned to me as chief ticket issuer once my training is complete (tentative smile emoticon)

BibiBlocksberg · 01/09/2011 21:32

You're going through of course, FFS at my basic spelling!

garlicnutter · 01/09/2011 22:00

You look smart in your Misery Line ticket-collector's uniform, Bibi. A very snazzy fit, if I may say so!

Buttons, please do post the SW comments for them wot know to cast their beady eyes over. From your post just now, I'm hoping it means you'll be referred for a psych assessment which could be very helpful. Don't take my word for anything, though - I was once interviewed by a kid with a visible rainforest on his shoulder, who twisted all his questions as he asked them! I wrote a very stinky letter to SS ... 90% of the SWs I've met have been wonderful. Fingers crossed, and I'm glad you have these wise women at your side :)

HerHissyness · 01/09/2011 22:03

Buttons, the truth will come out.

I don't know how you are coping with living with him, knowing what he has caused, to bring in SS and them doing a report on you and your family..

OK it may turn out to be the greatest help to you, but it's highly worrying and HE is to blame for this.

I'd insist he left until the SS report comes back and exonerates you tbh.

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 22:06

Buttons - SW DO try to draw conclusions that only trained psychologists should be making. But they will also be doing that about your Ex as well.

Some of my experiences with SW's haven't been great, but I was in the care system as a child, and I think that coloured their perception of me as a parent, at least for the first few years, as I was very young when I had DD (still 16, still on the at-risk register myself).

More recently, most of my experience with SW's has been when Ex-P has made spurious complaints to them. They came out, inspected the house, told me what they were unhappy with, I jumped through their hoops, they then produced a report stating they have no problems with the way I look after my dc. Just with how often I clean my toilets. Hmm. Because once a day obviously isn't often enough. I have had no further dealings with them in the last 2 1/2 years, since just before I got back with Ex-P, but now that we have split up again, and I am starting to separate myself from him, I know it won't be long.

DON'T talk too openly with them in future about your emotions, they do not have the time or the training if they are Child Protection to care about YOUR feelings. It's a bit shitty, but if you need to talk, get a counsellor or chat on here, not to SW's.

CardyMow · 01/09/2011 22:12

Why are they involved? I'm sorry I missed any previous threads you may have had on that. Try not to get into Mr buttons said, buttons said situations with them - keep it about how the children are. If they ask you, say something generic, like, "well, yes it's hard, but that's because I am trying to do the best for the children" Which is the truth anyway!

I TOTALLY know what you mean about the way SW's write comments out of context, thus skewing the true meaning of the comment. It's something I am wise to these days, and am very careful with HOW I say things near them.

Also - you don't have to let SW's in unannounced unless they have a warrant and police officers there. You can ask for them to book a mutually convenient appointment. Although they DO often say that if you do that, you 'have something to hide' or you would have let them in then.Angry.

BibiBlocksberg · 01/09/2011 22:14

It's all dem supernoodles i been eating wot got me dis figure you know' Grin

.......and a really bad accent by all accounts.....

BibiBlocksberg · 01/09/2011 22:15

Now available in euros I see

HerHissyness · 01/09/2011 22:25

Apparently, according to FB, it is a year today that I posted

"So what DO you call a man that wakes you up at gone 2am to tell you NOT to call him a TWAT... yes, thought so... :-/"

It is the Status I am most fond of, once I'd got past it, I did find it very funny indeed....

HerHissyness · 01/09/2011 22:26

opens Wine Grin

garlicnutter · 01/09/2011 22:28

It's all dem supernoodles i been eating
I'm wearing my posh tinted lenses, which are a bit rubbish for actually seeing through ... Hmm

... and read that as "all dem supermodels i been eating"
Grin

bejeezus · 01/09/2011 22:31

AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHhhhhhhhh....

...he makes me want to drink bleach!

bejeezus · 01/09/2011 22:33

if I ever get a terminal illness, I shall be turning assassin, and bigbuttons I shall be needing the address of your tithead for seconds