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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

OP posts:
Dorje · 05/09/2011 21:21

And just to add my blunt tuppence - if you do agree to take less than you deserve, and stay married because of a sense of duty to an ideal of how long you think a marriage should last, what oh what are you going to do if you ever have kids together? His family aren't just cardboard cut outs in a closet, they'll be planning something hideous again and again for their grandchild / nephew / niece, and you'll be enemy number one to them.

I'd do as others have suggested, and see a counsellor on your own, and see a solicitor to divorce this manshape.

So sorry.

Jacksmania · 07/09/2011 00:15

Hey Rockin, was thinking about you - any news? How are you?

RockinSockBunnies · 07/09/2011 16:14

Hi - back at work now, trying to keep chin up. DH found this thread which caused more angst - he still maintains that this has been blown out of proportion and is a mere blip. I continue to disagree. Am hoping the presence of the counsellor on Friday might shed new light and perspective.

More and more issues have been coming to the fore since we got home - arguments over the children, my upbringing, relationships - list goes on and on.

My head-in-the-sand approach is all I can do at the moment - I just can't start thinking and analysing things anymore - it's too overwhelming and I feel so out of control.

Will continue to post when I know what's happening.....

OP posts:
Katisha · 07/09/2011 16:27

I'm rather glad he saw the thread. No doubt we are all wrong and he is right but maybe it will give him something to think about.

re counselling - don't forget that it can also help you leave a relationship in a better way - it may not be that it saves it.

AnotherMumOnHere · 07/09/2011 16:27

Maybe someone will shoot me down for this but as he has found this thread it may be a good idea to name change with new thread too in order to keep your anonymity etc.

Proudnscary · 07/09/2011 16:56

How did he find the thread?!

I never understand when people say this. My dh would never look at anything I'd been on on t'interweb even if I left it open. He wouldn't be interested and wouldn't be so disrespectful.

piratecat · 07/09/2011 17:00

you're only going to counselling to get the counsellor to tell him, he's wrong methinks.

you know he's not a good man/husband.

why bother op. ridiculous, esp as you know you have made a mistake. i don't understand.
emotions were high, the situation was awful, but at the end of the day, he's what he is.

ChippingIn · 07/09/2011 18:34

Rock - I agree with Jux - 'I don't want to throw cold water on you - but I'm going to!'

He has shown his true colours - how can you over look that? Now you are married he will get worse and the more you put up with, the worse it will get as well.

Don't stay with him through any sense of 'what will people say' - just don't. None of those people will be there to pick up the pieces. I bet your Mum (who made a significant finanacial contribution to the wedding) wouldn't want you to stay with someone who would treat you like that :( Please don't stay - build a life with DD and put this behind you.

RocksH - are you the though police as well? The least you can damn well do if afford her some privacy.

needanewname · 07/09/2011 20:38

Rock - stand your ground. This has notbeen blown out of proportion at all. He either has to realise he has made a huge mistake or he has to go.

I usually can't stand the kick him out kind of threads, but this is unforgivable if he thinks he's done nothing wrong.

Seabright · 07/09/2011 21:32

Rock- slightly indelicate question, but have you and H has sex since the marriage?

If not, and you don't, you might be able to get an annulment. If you have, it would have to be a divorce, and you can't divorce until you have been married for a year

Dorje · 08/09/2011 09:13

To Rock's "husband"

You have lied and been involved in fraud, you have extorted money out of your new "inlaw" and threatened your new "wife". You have deserted your duty to stand by your "wife" in favour of your birth family.
You have minimised your new "wife's" feelings saying it's all in her head and she's blown it out of all proportion.

You are an abuser and a pretty poor specimen of human. None of us respect anything you have done.

Rock, you need to start listening to all of us. Maybe disbelief and shock is keeping you with your fingers in your ears and singing la la la.
You deserve a lovely life away from this abusive man, as does your DD. There is no salvaging this 'mirage' - take a courageous step and get out now: it's hard but not as hard as staying.

Change your name and log on again to lose your 'thought police' spy.

ShoutyHamster · 08/09/2011 09:27

Just get out.

Head really, really needs to be out of the sand alas.

Just get out. Counselling won't sort this out, apart from possibly teaching him a few good manipulation tactics.

You picked a bad 'un! It's ok, it's fine, it happens, just don't compound the problem by being too taken aback to sort it out.

Just GET OUT!

HerHissyness · 08/09/2011 09:42

Agree with shouty, except on one thing OP, you didn't pick him.

He probably TARGETED YOU.

There IS nothing you can do. There never was. This is HIS choice to treat you and your family like this, because he feels he can.

We all think, I'm different, I can turn it around. It's not really doomed, it's just a blip. He'll go back to being the person I fell in love with. I'll show them.

You may not know me, but I am a bit of a fighter, I am determined to get things done, to prove myself and to succeed in whatever it is I am trying to do.

This is an admirable quality in life.... EXCEPT for relationships with men that are abusive, or at the very least are oppressive. Your H is a bully, his family are bullies, and that is putting it kindly.

You can try to turn this around, make a go of it, but it frankly won't work. Ever. Unless HE wants to make a go of it.

If he didn't consider your feelings on your wedding day/honeymoon, seriously, when do you think he'll start? Answer: he WON'T

It's OK to give up on him. It's OK to walk away (absolutely bloody necessary tbh) it's genuinely NOT your failure, nothing to do with you at all. This is all about his need for power and perception of women.

There are times when you need to dig deep and fight for things. There are times when fighting that fight is damaging to you and is utterly pointless.

Sadly, when faced with the realisation that you are with an angry, controlling and manipulative man, one that oppresses those he is supposed to be partners with, it's the latter scenario.

For the sake of your DD, for the sake of your Mother, and for YOUR sake, you need to show him that you will NOT be bullied, you reject his control and that HE is not good enough for YOU, or for your DD, and certainly not for your mother.

There is not a decent soul on earth that would think anything but sheer admiration for your courage, wisdom and loyalty to your family by leaving this man.

SickwithFury · 08/09/2011 21:32

What a sneaky, nosy twat this man is. Snooping around on this web-site until he can spy on his wife. Hope you're reading this now you loser:-

You and your family turned your wedding day into a family circus. This was meant to be about you and your girl, a day to show your love and committment to one another; a day that she, her child and her poorly Mum travelled around the world so that you and your family could be a part of.

You've left this woman you love at the mercy of your domineering sister and showed her about as much tenderness as a stranger.

And now you belittle her feelings and snoop on this forum.

What a treat I'd have should I be your wife's solicitor.

Jux · 08/09/2011 22:36

Did you show him the thread? Otherwise he really has been checking up on you, and this is not normal at all, bodes really badly for your future.

Please kick him out. He allowed his family to ruin your wedding, demanded money from you and your mum, showed no empathy or sympathy when your gran died and you were upset, has told you your feelings are unimportant in pretty well every way he could; the next port of call is hitting you to show you that you really are unimportant in every way - not today, not next week or next month, but it will happen. What is that going to tell your dd?

HE HAS MADE YOUR MOTHER CRY AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT FOR ME.

He will make your dd cry. He has made you cry. AND HE DOESN'T CARE.

Get rid, get rid, get rid.

gregssausageroll · 12/09/2011 13:32

I hope you are ok rockin.

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