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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

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Animation · 28/08/2011 10:04

"DH just says that his sister worked so hard to organise it all that questioning anything is rude, disrespectful and ungrateful."

How did you feel about him saying that?

Anniegetyourgun · 28/08/2011 10:05

Couldn't your mother pay for two one-way air tickets back home instead?

PhilipJFry · 28/08/2011 10:05

You've been sucked into his unhealthy family dynamic, where the sister is in charge and no one is allowed to second guess her. The thought of her being wrong or of standing up to her has been instantly dismissed by them and your husband: for them the "other" is the problem. In this case, it's you. You've been getting the brunt of all of this during your WEDDING: that says a lot about how fixed and messed up their dynamic is. Your husband is behaving inexcusably, allowing this to happen at the expense of your happiness and finances. He's so determined to have his sister be right that he'll sacrifice your savings, your honeymoon and enjoyment. Just so his family will be correct he's willing to be hostile towards you.

lalalonglegs · 28/08/2011 10:06

Everyone sounds as though they sound very stressed from the wedding and perhaps your husband's family have become aggressive and overly-assertive because they feel you are not appreciative enough of their efforts. You don't say where your husband is from but is it a culture where people feel more inclined to speak their mind than in Britain? Have you met them before? Is it a country where generally people earn less than in the UK - they might think you are freeloading a bit if this is the case (of course you're not but people's perceptions can be skewed). Either way, everyone seems to have taken very entrenched positions and be refusing to compromise (including your husband).

Wrt the honeymoon - no, it doesn't sound like a conventional honeymoon but, who knows, perhaps four days away from the pressure cooker of the family home will let everyone relax a bit. Try to view it positively.

I'm sure that things will calm down a bit when you get back to England. Good luck.

Maiavan · 28/08/2011 10:07

Im sorry Rockin but your DH is being awful! I would honestly be worried about his lack of support now and in the future. This all says a lot about your future with him! If you doing/saying what he thinks is right - you will get support. If not - you on your own?

FrameyMcFrame · 28/08/2011 10:08

Thursday is not too long away, try to enjoy the holiday with DD and concentrate on her and you having a nice time. Screw the rest of them. They have no respect for you and your MumSad

LaurieFairyCake · 28/08/2011 10:10

There is one part I think is your 'fault' - you sound a wee bit precious about the money being set aside for your ring - you could use that money to pay instead of your mother paying and have a cheap ring.

I guess from his (horrible) family's point of view you've had a lovely wedding and now you want to keep the money to pay for a ring.

Frankly, I wouldn't stay and you do currently have the money to leave him. It doesn't sound like they will let you forget it and your new husband sounds awful.

ShirleyKnot · 28/08/2011 10:12

Good lord. You poor thing.

Screw it, I think I would just be as unpleasant to them as they're being to you (a bride!!)

RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 10:14

I've only met his mother, father and step-mother before. No-one else. In terms of culture, there is a more forthright manner and people tell others what they 'must' do, rather than what they might like to do. I feel like his sister's maid, the way she spoke to me and tells us what to do.

So, maybe there is a cultural clash from the English softly-softly approach to the directness here.

I don't know what I want to do. I feel so trapped and unhappy. Things might go back to normal in the UK. But I am so so angry at the way he's treated my mother.

I do have a feisty relationship with my mother - we've always been close but we also argue lots and can be quite combative. At the same time, we speak on the phone lots and lots, see each other and she's so supportive. She's totally different to DH's mother and I don't know if DH sees us argue and have our usual type of relationship and thinks that we don't get on, hence he can be rude to her. God knows what he thinks actually.

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twinklytroll · 28/08/2011 10:15

I agree with the previous poster that you are precious about a ring . Dp and I are planning to get married, we can't afford an engagement ring so there isn't one.

However I think his family is trying to con you and your DH may be part of it. Has the marriage been consummated? Can you get an annulment ?

DecapitatedLegoman · 28/08/2011 10:15
  1. sounds like lack of detailed communication on both sides

  2. cultural differences are presumably an issue too

  3. weddings only happen once so this is behind you now

  4. the nub of the matter is your DH's attitude - everything else can be avoided in future

  5. get through the next few days then sit down with your DH and sort it out when you get home. You cannot resolve this him the shadow of his family and by trying to do so you will simply add fuel to the notion that you're ungrateful

I feel really sorry for you but this is something to sort out once you're back on home ground and have some privacy.

RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 10:16

Laurie - the money has gone to his sister already- DH now wants my mother to reimburse him Hmm.

He bought my engagement ring at the beginning of the year by credit card, which is paid off monthly from our joint account. So, basically, I have been paying for my own ring, which does piss me off as I do like to think that he could have paid for it with his own money as he said he would. Frankly, though, I feel like selling the damn thing.

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 10:17

Hello Decapitated - just wanted to say that your posts on the other thread made me smile this morning! I love the fiery, horned snail Grin!

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ShirleyKnot · 28/08/2011 10:20

NO!!!!

Just tell him fucking well NO. Why should your mum have to pay for anything?

WTAF?

CoffeeIsMyFriend · 28/08/2011 10:21

well, he wouldnt be my husband for long if that is how his family treated me and my mother! Angry

What makes it worse is that he is also ganging up on you and siding with his family. this doesnt bode well OP. sorry.

going · 28/08/2011 10:21

I think you should sell your ring, for your husband to expect your mother to reimburse him is horrible!

SardineQueen · 28/08/2011 10:28

God how utterly horrendous. I really feel for you. No advice though I'm sorry Sad

LaurieFairyCake · 28/08/2011 10:29

So that means you and your dh have paid for the wedding. He is being totally unreasonable trying go get you to persuade your mother to pay. Just say NO.

Sell your ring if you want. Just leave, he's an arse and he isn't for you.

RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 10:30

Am going off now for a walk and a think (if I'm allowed out). Back later. Thank you everyone.

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honeyandsalt · 28/08/2011 10:30

TBH it sounds like your husband got you into this mess in the first place and now he's taking 0 responsability. Why the fuck isn't HE paying for part of the wedding, he's a grown man.

Also, it seems like he's really putting you down and trying to destroy you self-confidence at a time when couples are normally loved-up. - Does this article ring any more bells about him?

Animation · 28/08/2011 10:30

What woud you like to say to this sister?

Smile
saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2011 10:30

Hang on your husband wants your mother to reimburse him???? Wtf? I assumed as a couple you didn't have the cash to pay the sister. Do not let your mother give a penny to your husband. What is he thinking of?

Suncottage · 28/08/2011 10:31

Rockin

Is there anyway you can ALL sit down together and discuss this. The misunderstandings, miscommunications etc.

It is a HUGE decision you are making.

Sit down state your case slowly (through gritted teeth maybe) and explain that it was meant to be a happy family occasion and how upset you are by the 'difficulties' that have been encountered along the way etc etc etc.

If they refuse to take part then at least you would have tried and you can hold you head high.

lachesis · 28/08/2011 10:39

Why do you have to stick it out? Leave now. And fuck paying for FA. Go home, clear out the accounts and move.

flimflammery · 28/08/2011 10:41

I feel for you. One question: In the country your DH's family are from, who normally pays for a wedding? What is the expectation?

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