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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

OP posts:
2rebecca · 30/08/2011 13:55

I said "you are all at fault", not that "it is all your fault".
There is a major difference here.
All of them assumed someone else was paying for stuff, no-one bothered to agree the details of exactly what was being organised and who was paying.
If my SIL was organising my wedding I wouldn't expect her to pay for it and would expect that my husband and I would be paying and would therefore insist she checked everything with me and my bloke before booking stuff.
The OP and her husband didn't do this, the SIL made no effort to inform anyone of how much anything was costing, the inlaws didn't clarify exactly what they were paying for, but weren't asked to either.

fargate · 30/08/2011 14:04

Ooops - misread. Sorry

MmeLindor. · 30/08/2011 14:04

Let's hope that the OP doesn't waste time and money going to the consulate. They are there for emergencies.

This is distressing for the OP, but there is no sign of an emergency or a crime having been committed against her.

This is no Don Juan who has persuaded a tourist to get married to get his hands on her money. They have been together for some time in UK.

springydaffs · 30/08/2011 15:02

What a der brain I can be - sorry op, just seen the title of your thread Blush

tadpoles · 30/08/2011 15:46

How long were you together before you got married?

tadpoles · 30/08/2011 16:22

The reason I ask is that, if you have been together ages, you could possibly view this situation as an unfortunate blip. Weddings are immensely stressful and often seem to bring out the worst in people in terms of money and control issues. It is not that unusual for weddings to result in family feuds over money/controlling mother in laws and so on.

However, if you have not been together long I think I might view this as a 'writing on the wall' type of thing - if your partner is not standing up for you at this stage in your marriage, will he ever?

M0naLisa · 30/08/2011 18:05

hope you're ok Rockin.

RockinSockBunnies · 30/08/2011 18:33

Thank you everyone. Have been without internet for last few days and have a few minutes now.

So, have spoken and sobbed down phone to my mother. Kept trying to figure out what to do re: 'honeymoon', since his mother had organised and paid for it and actually, she's been the most neutral of all parties and is very sweet to DD, so didn't want to upset her. Hence am on the 'honeymoon' (also DD had been looking forward to it for ages, and I didn't want her being more upset than she already is with all the shit going on).

Things are easier here, as we're on neutral ground. But, things still very strained with DH. More arguments on the way here with his sister berating me for further things (including being miserable - how dare I be upset and withdrawn etc etc). Have come to some kind of neutral stance now as regards her - trying to be as 'nice' as is possible in all the circumstances and somehow have the higher moral ground.

Had massive discussion with DH on the Sunday evening - told him that I wouldn't be asking my mother to pay anything and told my mother I didn't want anything further as she'd done so much. DH is still adamant that I am the one in the wrong by querying the invoice and the fact that his sister has dictated everything. He also maintains that my mother is also in the wrong.

Going forwards from here, I really don't know what will happen when back in UK. Possible relationship counselling? I don't know. Trying to make some kind of clean break though will be decidedly difficult in terms of finances, money, schools, jobs etc.

Do I love him? He does have some good qualities - very, very good with DD, faithful, used to be very loving towards me. But his behaviour now and attitude means that I don't really know what's happening or how/if things should be resolved.

Anyway, on hotel's PC now so have to log off. Will post again when back in UK at end of week.

Thank you all so much again for your kindness and support.

OP posts:
MollieO · 30/08/2011 18:36

Good luck. Maybe things will be clearer with your dh when he is away from the toxic influence of his sister.

TheOriginalFAB · 30/08/2011 19:02

No matter what your husband needs telling how badly he has let you down and that when you marry your wife/husband should come first before any one, until you have children and then you find they take over.

garlicnutter · 30/08/2011 19:08

Good to hear from you, Rockin :) Congrats on the higher moral ground - how's the view?!

I'll be keeping an eye out for you when you get back. I keep thinking about how gutted you must feel (to put it mildly!)

It's better to abandon a bad decision early ... but can take a while to figure out "how bad" it is, iykwim? A bit like deciding when a car isn't worth repairing anymore! ... though a relationship is even harder to evaluate, obv.

Good luck with the staying cool.

Animation · 30/08/2011 19:08

Good to hear from you Rockin. We are your loyal supporters. Smile

I wish you'd kick that sister-in-law into touch. Grin

...or push her in the pool (if there is one) - who does she think she is - berating you!

Jux · 30/08/2011 19:20

Good luck, Rockin.

garlicnutter is so right, so keep that her advice in mind. Too many people hang on for too long to situations/circumstances because they are subconsciously trying to justify the fact that they made the decision which brought them there in the first place. It's called the psychology of sunk cost and a very interesting subject, but wrong on so many counts.

Don't wind up in a situation which is out of control just because you thought you were marrying one guy and found yourself married to another.

ChippingIn · 30/08/2011 19:23

Good to hear from you Rockin.

There's no way I'd want to stay married to him after the way he's behaved... but you will have to come to your own decision :(

Let us know when you are back OK.

pickgo · 30/08/2011 20:32

Well done for rising above it and so sorry you're in this situation Rockin.

For what it's worth, I knew I'd made a mistake 10 days into my marriage while still on honeymoon Shock and after 6 weeks wanted to definitely leave. Everyone said it's too soon, you need to give it more time etc, but my gut instinct was shouting loud and clear that he was a bad 'un. He changed the minute the ring was on my finger. Seems he reserved a very special attitude just for the woman 'lucky' enough to be his wife. Angry

Wish I'd cut my losses and gone then. Took 7 more almost entirely miserable years before I could leave.

Allboxedin · 30/08/2011 21:30

Good luck Robin, If its any consolation, I floated off to Nigeria with a guy I met abroad,got married there (luckily I didnt in the UK so it wasnt recognised over here!) and still don't even know if it was legit. I was nearly in tears on the day I 'got married' We married in a hot,stuffy room in a block of offices with his dad and his brother present!
......As a blessing in disguise, I contracted malaria after 3 months of being there with his family and had to get back to the Europe urgently to get any decent care, he never got his visa to enter the UK! I returned to Nigeria a little while after I got better but left early.....I never saw him again! I was very naive back then but I learnt some bloody hard lessons. I'm not saying your marriage will be anything like this but I just wanted to show you that where there's a will theres a way! x

Allboxedin · 30/08/2011 21:32

...oh and our 'honeymoon' was going to a hotel for a drink (not even the night :() I distinctly remember because it was at the time of the London bus bombings in London and I was sat watching that on the hotel tv!

MrsSchadenfreude · 30/08/2011 22:46

Allboxedin - are you sure your marriage wasn't recognised in UK? If it was a "native law and custom" marriage, and you were not an ethnic Nigerian, then it wouldn't have been, but there is no reason why a civil or church marriage there would not be recognised in the UK.

Dorje · 30/08/2011 23:36

I still think you should contact your embassy and see what they think about fraud.

I don't give much a chance to your marriage tbh and hope you can get out of it without too many tears. I don't think you really knew your DP, but are getting to know the real him now.

Eurostar · 30/08/2011 23:47

Dorje I don't know what British Consulates you have had dealings with, I can tell you that 100% any British Consulate/Embassy I have dealt with, and there have been a few, would give the OP very short shrift if she went there.

honeyandsalt · 31/08/2011 00:03

No look he's a man not a lemming, and I'm not buying all this "under the influence of his sister" nonsense. Yes, she sounds like a strong character. All the more reason to support his wife. All the more reason to stand up to her: the money is spent now, but the sister stepped over the line and is continuing to step over the line by berating rockin on her honeymoon. Because she has made her miserable! Oh the irony. And him having a go at her mother and trying to make out she owes the money over all this stinks really, really badly. As does the fact that the only real reason you're not running like a hare now rockin is that your DD is enjoying herself on holiday.

I'm sorry to be harsh here, but sticking with a total asshole just because you couldn't be bothered sorting out money and so on, ask yourself, is that a sensible decision? Ok so it seemed like a good idea to get hitched at the time, but clearly you didn't have the full facts about him. Ask yourself - if you had the choice to marry him still now would you wholeheartedly want to? What does the answer tell you about what you should do now?

Love is never enough. There are many, many people in this world with whom we could have a love relationship - the likeihood of some divine power dropping this character in your lap because he was the one and only man you ever can, will, or should love and spend the rest of your life with or love is next to zero. Do we love more than one person in our lives? Of course! Love is not the whole story, or half of it: you make your marriage work as a pair, as friends, with kindness, and listening, and talking, and support.

If you do decide you made a mistake here, it's ok. Really. Just return your gifts, sell the ring, and sort things out. You can do it. It's ok to make a mistake.

mathanxiety · 31/08/2011 03:54

'Going forwards from here, I really don't know what will happen when back in UK. Possible relationship counselling? I don't know. Trying to make some kind of clean break though will be decidedly difficult in terms of finances, money, schools, jobs etc.'

Please don't take the path of least resistance. Is any of what you are going through now easy? Do you think being a blow in member in this particular family is going to be a picnic?

LaLaLaLayla · 31/08/2011 06:43

Trying to make some kind of clean break though will be decidedly difficult in terms of finances, money, schools, jobs etc.

So, nothing to do with love then Hmm

Why exactly are you with this guy?

saffronwblue · 31/08/2011 06:52

Marriage inevitably involves being able to wrangle inlaws and being able to communicate about money. OP do you think you and your husband can improve on these fronts? If not, you are in for a lot of misery, I fear.

diddl · 31/08/2011 07:15

"DH is still adamant that I am the one in the wrong by querying the invoice and the fact that his sister has dictated everything. He also maintains that my mother is also in the wrong. "

I´d have to leave for that reason tbh.

He has paid his own sister back for his own wedding.

That´s it.