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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

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shinyblackgrape · 28/08/2011 17:38

Agree with nothing re the flights. Move out to a b & b if you can't sort out with H but don't borrow more money to fly home. I also think it will upset your mum more and heighten the whole situation.

Shoutymomma · 28/08/2011 18:19

It takes a very strong couple to get over a spoilt wedding and that's if it is due to issues beyond their control. In this case, I'd be surprised if you could ever forgive your bloke.

Sorry to be the voice of doom and all that, but I'd pull the plug before this shit manifests itself in other areas of your life.

If you are thinking of having a child with this man... don't.

AttillaTheMum · 28/08/2011 19:00

I think you should show your H this thread if he maintains his stance.

Oblomov · 28/08/2011 19:48

OP, is this really such a shock to you ? I mean did you know NOTHING about your dh and his family, in the 2 years you were together ? Did you not talk about childhood, traditional parents, being told what to do and not standing up for yourself ? Did you not see any of these characteristics in your dh ?
I just can't grasp why this such a shock.

MJHASLEFTTHEBUILDING · 28/08/2011 19:57

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FabbyChic · 28/08/2011 20:08

Why did you marry this man? He is an arsehole, he is not going to make you happy, he is not going to be supportive in bad times.

I really do feel for you. I hope you manage to get home. YOu have a lovely mother leave the marital home and go live with her she would love the company.

saffronwblue · 28/08/2011 22:17

I was also thinking SA- because of people saying "you must" to everything. OP just get through this few days and get home.

PontyMython · 29/08/2011 00:13

Just seen this, about to go to sleep so will read in full tomorrow, just wanted to say I'm really sorry you've been put through this and I hope it gets sorted out soon. Stay strong x

clam · 29/08/2011 00:50

Don't think it can be SA if all the flights, plus other things, paid for by the OP's mum, 'only' came to just over a thousand pounds.

DandyLioness · 29/08/2011 01:17

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jasper · 29/08/2011 01:32

Sit tight.Fly home. Reassess.

Planetofthegrapes · 29/08/2011 01:39

I'm outraged at the way your DH's family have treated you. They are a bunch of freeloaders, and I am shocked in the way that your DH has colluded with them.

It may be a tradition for the bride's family to pay the majority of the reception costs if they are hosting the reception - can choose venue, send invites, choose meal, wines, entertainment etc etc. but not in your case where you wanted a modest wedding and wanted to keep the costs down and only a limited number of your family would attend.

It is meant to be a joint celebration for both sets of families and friends - not a chance for your DH's family to splurge at your mum's expense. Also, the beauty treatments were a nice little earner for you SIL's pal.

I've had the unfortunate experience of my DH's family behaving shabbily over our wedding, though not nearly as bad as this, and it has left a bad taste.

I think your experience is so bad that it would be the tipping point in your relationship, unless your DH could make amends.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 29/08/2011 05:41

Lie through your teeth - they've met your mum, they must know she's elderly and not in the best of health. Tell them that she's not capable of making an international bank transfer but, once you're home with her, they'll get their money.

If the return tickets aren't in your possession, and you haven't got enough dosh to stay in a hotel until your return flight, suck it up, smile sweetly, and look forward to fucking them, and the twunt you've married, over once you get back home

If there is any way you can get to a British Embassy make enquiries as to whether the marriage can be annulled - depending on what country you are in, if it's not registered it may not be recognised in the UK.

Thursday's a matter of hours away - hang on in there.

mathanxiety · 29/08/2011 06:11

None of it is good, but on the bright side, you now know what a spineless waste of space you have got involved with. And hopefully you will give him his marching orders and not allow your mum to part with one penny when you get home.

Was there absolutely no indication up to now that he and his family had such a lopsided idea of what is appropriate as a way of treating other people?

Did the two of you communicate at all wrt the wedding?

What impression of his family did you have up to now from him?

Next time you get married, if you want it done right, do it all yourself. It's a PITA but most people do it and manage to save or spend as much as they wish and have a private honeymoon.

mathanxiety · 29/08/2011 06:15

I don't know why you are still thinking an engagement ring is warranted in these circumstances. If you have one then you should flog it. If you don't have one, you are surely not going to need one?

thelittlestkiwi · 29/08/2011 06:36

I think plane tickets can normally be re issued at the airport for a small admin fee.

Hope it all gets sorted OP.

Toadinthehole · 29/08/2011 07:33

Just to note that the OP said: "(don't want to say where as will out myself even more)" so it's not fair to speculate where her husband is from.

CoffeeIsMyFriend · 29/08/2011 07:34

how are things now OP? Have you managed to talk to the outlaws/husband?

Toadinthehole · 29/08/2011 08:33

RockinSockBunnies,

What a horrible time you must be going through, and what a disappointing way to start off a marriage. You must have been looking forward to this so much, and instead it has turned into a disaster. Clearly you were allowing yourself to be pampered a bit beforehand, and I don't think anyone can blame you for that.

I expect your husband also wanted things to be nothing like this.

Perhaps it would be sensible to go through with the honeymoon and have it out with your DH when you get back to England. A lot of comments above are to the effect that you should leave him right away. Perhaps it is better if you give this time to sort out and work through. If that is the right thing, it is still better to make that decision on reflection, and live with your decision, knowing that it was the right one.

FWIW I very much doubt that your marriage wouldn't be recognised under English law unless there is something really quite odd about it, and I doubt that the British Embassy would get involved unless your passport had been pinched.

Another FWIW. My DW is also from, shall we say, another culture that is somewhat direct. My in-laws can be pushy. I found the best way was to push back fairly but very HARD. They understand this a lot better than English people do, take much less offence at it than English people do. It is a way of relating to people that over time I have come to prefer. The downside is that we do have blistering rows from time to time, but they do sometimes clear the air.

lachesis · 29/08/2011 08:53

I don't get people who go into debt to buy an engagement ring. It's not like it's necessary.

electra · 29/08/2011 09:05

Don't let your mother pay anything else - it will just reinforce their disgusting behaviour. If someone told me they were paying for a reception I would take that to mean the alcohol too - the alcohol is the main cost ffs! What a bunch of arseholes. I think I would go home to the UK now - sod them.

LIZS · 29/08/2011 09:11

Sorry if it has been said before but can you sell the ring - seems it is n't worth much sentimentally now anyway. Suspect Eastern Europe if cheapish flights and cultural shock involved. Odd to have such a high regard for weddings but such little respect for funerals. No way should your mother get financially involved , they will bleed her dry :(

SeniorWrangler · 29/08/2011 09:17

I was going to say that it would be sensible to split the costs 50/50 for both families, but having thought about it a bit more, I would be inclined to run away from this marriage and get it annulled asap, or get a divorce.

It's not the money. The fact that as the bride you are being put through all this does not augur well for the future. There seems to be a singular lack of support from your husband, which is very strange and worrying indicator.

I am sure you can do better for yourself and your child than this.

diddl · 29/08/2011 09:39

For me it´s the fact that OP´s husband is letting his family run roughshod over himself & OP.

When v. expensive ariline tickets are involved, I would have thought that it would be patently obvious that getting married in UK would be cheaper.

It´s a shame (in hindsight) that OPs mum was kind enough to stump up for the tickets.

But having had that paid for, I´m surprised that OP & her husband thought that the wedding would be paid for as well-if they did.

But now that the husband has paid his parents/sister back, that should be the end of it.

Why would he think that his MIL should pay?

She never said she would??

electra · 29/08/2011 09:57

What is your dp like at home? Is this the first time you've seen him behave like this?

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