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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

OP posts:
Animation · 29/08/2011 10:00

Rockin.

How are you doing?

Are you coping?

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 29/08/2011 10:02

I really feel for you. How awful to be trapped like that abroad!

Sorry to be blunt but it soudns to me like you marriage is going nowhere. Either pay for a flight home or stick it out til Thursday, come home and see if you can get an annulment.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 29/08/2011 10:07

Also I feel really sorry for your mum, please don't let her pay anymore (sounds like you don't intend to anyway).

It does sound a bit like this might have been deliberate on the part of his family, to try to get money out of you and your mum.

What you say about how he reacted when your nan died was a very clear indicator or what sort of a man he was and you shouldn't have ignored it. Easily done though.

So they are Australian are they? Or did I read that wrong? I had assumed before that they were turkish for some reason.

clam · 29/08/2011 11:04

You absolutely cannot allow your mother to pay for this. Your (D)H has written a cheque to his sister to cover her claim costs, so he/the two of you will just have to suck it up. Factor it in to the divorce settlement!

Sawyer64 · 29/08/2011 11:31

I would try suggesting a discussion with Sister etc. Explain that you'd said that it had to be simple and low cost beforehand,and be adamant that you do not have the money to pay for all this.Stick to your guns,and don't bring your mum into it.Yes your mum may have "got off lightly" IF this had been a traditional style wedding,where the Bride's family pick up the tab.But its obvious that this wasn't what had been arranged or agreed.I do think I would have questioned who was paying for the Manicures/Facial's/Pedicures etc at the time,as this would have bothered me,and if I'd been told we would split the cost,or they had acted surprised and said they thought I'd be paying,I would have dropped out then and there.I think you need to clear the air with a discussion,calmly round a table.Apologise that you had been under the impression that when DH's dad had offered to pay for the Reception,you had thought this would mean all the costs incurred for the Reception.State that you understand the bills need to be paid,they don't want to foot the total bill,and that you are UNABLE to pay the full amount,so a compromise MUST be reached,as "we" are all family now,and so must sort this out together so everyone is happy.Worth a try....and hopefully a solution will be reached,and you and your DH can be happy.For the Honeymoon,maybe they plan to take the children off your hands for the evening,and an afternoon maybe.If not,maybe suggest it,say you need time alone as its your Honeymoon. Good luck. There's too much at stake to "flounce off" IMO and sulk,or return home.You shouldn't have been put in this situation,but it may be down to you to be the "mature and reasonable " one to try and rectify it. Smile

Pagwatch · 29/08/2011 11:37

Oh Rockin, you must be reeling.

It is awful that you didn't see this coming. But you didn't so there is little point in berating you for that.
How are things?
Has this caused you to reasses whether you wish to be with him?

electra · 29/08/2011 12:06

Sorry, Sawyer I completely disagree with your advice.

A discussion with the sister? The sister sounds like a toxic witch from what the OP has posted. Reasonable discussions with people like that just do not happen! If she was reasonable she would not have behaved this way up til this point.

And there is no way the OP should apologise for anything!

SardineQueen · 29/08/2011 12:46

Hi Rockin

Are you OK? How are things there?

You poor thing Sad

gorionine · 29/08/2011 13:33

Hello RockinSockBunnies, just back on here and as SardineQueen, wondering how you are today. Thinking of you.

AnotherMumOnHere · 29/08/2011 13:57

OP may not be able to come back online if she has gone away with family - just a thought.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 29/08/2011 15:42

I can't imagine a reasonalbe discussion with the sister happening either. In an ideal world that would be great but the woman sounds too domineering to even let the OP get a word out!

garlicnutter · 29/08/2011 16:11

I hope she's on a plane.

Jux · 29/08/2011 17:03

OP, I do hope you've managed to put some space between yourself and the rest of them, and that you and your dd are in a B&B or on a plane home.

I'm so sorry you've had this horrible experience of married life, when you should be euphoric, your dh and you should be feeling very differently than you are.

This really doesn't bode well.

When someone caves in to their family whenever family gets involved, you are setting yourself up for problems in the future. What if his family want to call your first child something different from what you and your dh have already decided and he caves in?

The day after we got married and I'd just moved into dh's flat, my MIL rang me and asked for rent. She wasn't interested in getting rent from him, oh no, just from me. That went on for weeks and weeks. I'd hand the phone over to dh, saying to her "speak to dh" and she'd babble to him about anything under the sun. Then she'd ring the next day and ask me for rent. What a welcome to the family!

You need to know that this man will stand by your side and fight your corner, that your corner is his corner. At the moment you don't have that.

QuintessentialShadow · 29/08/2011 21:23

Op, come back and update us , ok?

I hope it all turns out ok, and that this thread will not be another of the great mumsnet cliff hangers with no ending.

Dorje · 30/08/2011 00:10

I hope you go to the British Consul / Embassy.

It all sounds like fraud to me.

I hope you get out of it and home pretty sharpish.

MrsSchadenfreude · 30/08/2011 06:59

What would you expect the British Consulate to do, Dorje? Confused They're not Relate, nor do they hand out free flights.

Rockin - hope you're OK. Smile

MmeLindor. · 30/08/2011 07:18

:) at suggestions of going to British Embassy.

They cannot help. They are there if a British national gets into serious difficulties abroad. No matter how awful this is for the OP, falling out with your family does not come into that category.

shinyblackgrape · 30/08/2011 08:32

Yes - please come back and update. Second mme lindor's comments re embassy. Don't waste time and money going there.

springydaffs · 30/08/2011 10:01

this sounds like a cultural thing re the way he has changed beyond recognition, totally backing his family, and the nightmare that has unfolded since you got to his country. I also think you are being bullied by 'd'h's family, particularly his sister - this is, unfortunately, very common in some cultures. I also hate to say it but a lot of people see 'england' and think 'money'. YOu and your mum are being fleeced imo.

Can't work out if you've married him yet but if I were you I wouldn't go through with the wedding. I would also agree that you need to pay the embassy a visit to lay out what is happening if you don't go through with the wedding. If you are already married you especially need to go to see them. I don't think it's as simple as 'falling out with' the family, imo this is more sinister. If you are married to him your rights could be drastically reduced and you will need help and advice from the consulate. Keep your passport and tickets close until you go home.

It can be a complete shock how other cultures can operate. I married a foreigner and nothing prepares you for some of the things that go down, things that are way out of any previous experience or reference. I hope you're home soon and can start recovering from this nightmare.

chocolateyclur · 30/08/2011 10:23

I hope you're okay. Thinking of you.

mummytime · 30/08/2011 11:45

I would personally tell the embassy/consulate just to get a written record. In case anything further happens. Also in case the marriage becomes of interest to immigration, although in that case I would have thought he would have been nicer to you for longer.
I would also contact the airline to check if your tickets can be changed and if so how much if any fee they will charge. (I once got some unchangable ones changed and it should have cost $100 but in the end they didn't charge me.)
Do let us know how it goes.

LIZS · 30/08/2011 12:14

As op travelled and married willingly, has access to funds and a booked route home I don't think the Consulate would help. If she were being held unwillingly or had been a victim of crre then perhaps.

2rebecca · 30/08/2011 13:16

Agree this isn't a consulate problem. The OP could leave the country but chooses to stay because she doesn't want to pay for a flight. She could leave and go to a hotel until the flight leaves on Thursday.
It sounds as though you are all at fault for not clarifying the costs in detail and who paid for what in advance, it also sounds as though you have been a bit extravagent re engagement ring costs, although lots of people seem to spend stupid amounts of money on engagement rings. An engagement ring should always be regarded as a joint cost as usually money is merged on marriage.
If the holiday is a gift there isn't much you can do about it. It isn't a honeymoon though so I would stop calling it that. A honeymoon is a private holiday, you maybe should have organised a proper honeymoon if you'd wanted one. I agree it's not much of a gift if you don't want to go, but sometimes gifts are a bit crap.
Having a wedding abroad with other people organising it and not controlling it yourself had the potential to be a disaster. It doesn't have to be expensive to get married in the UK. You can have a quiet UK wedding easily, so I don't buy the argument that you went abroad and spent thousands on flights for a cheap wedding.
It sounds as though you are currently having a crap time and your marriage has gone horribly wrong, but expecting everyone to do everything for nothing, and not wanting to know the costs in advance for all the stuff his sister was organising when traditionally in many cultures the bride's family pays for everything was naive.
Hope you get home soon and that your relationship with your husband is salvageable.

fargate · 30/08/2011 13:48

Wow, rebecca All the OP's fault. That's interesting.

LIZS · 30/08/2011 13:50

No, she said you are all at fault - ie. everyone is culpable and I think even op has admitted she may be in having allowed her dh and his sister to take over arrangements.

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