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dh- sudden violence

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underachiever · 05/08/2011 20:36

My dh and I have been together for 18 happy years but yesterday we were discussing our building project that is currently underway (it is behind schedule and a bit stressful. I admit to often ranting about the builder and it really stresses dh out) he warned me to shut up because he was getting really mad but I didn't and he reached across the table and grabbed me round the neck with both hands and shook me hard.
I locked myself in the toilet and cried for a bit.

When I came out he had typed this on my computer:
You are killing me, you are driving me nuts- I have to suffer your constant ranting- no one else gets the hassle- it is sooooo frustrating for me and you have driven me to do something awful. But I feel as if Im acting under diminished responsibility as you are messing with my mind- I snapped totally because Im haunted by your nastiness and the stress you are creating over this. I am TRYING MY BEST to sort this out- to make you happy- but you criticise everything and Im stuck in the middle. ITS NOT FAIR- I want to scream!! YOU are causing this enormous stress by your response and the worst thing is that you just can't see it- which makes me worry for the future. None of it really matters- I just want to run away now and not come back.
Please help me.

I know I have been ranting about the builder a lot, and I know he is doubly stressed trying to deal with the builder and putting up with me getting cross about it too, but it's not the most stressful thing in the world is it? He worries for the future as he says because if I get worse with my ranting I might provoke him to do something worse.

We have been together for 18 years and have always been very happy together, but from time to time I do feel uncomfortable particularly with the way he reacts when the children misbehave. Sometimes he will grab them quite roughly and he is 6'4 and they are 5yo & 7yo. Sometimes he will grab our ds and hold him up against the wall (high up with his feet dangling) and shout at him. I tell him it's inappropriate but he tells me I'm over-reacting.

This sounds absolutely terrible when I write it down but 99.9% of the time he is totally lovely and loads of fun, a great dad and really romantic and thoughtful but just from time to time the red mist descends.

We talked a little about yesterday's incident, he explained how much I wound him up and I've tried to put it out of my mind as a once in a lifetime abberation. But, tonight dd was being giddy and not listening to him so he went over and grabbed her by the head and shouted loudly in her ear.

He's gone to his spinning class now. Luckily my cousin (who is a massive bloke) is arriving in a bit and stopping the night so we won't be alone with him but I'm not sure what to do next.

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GypsyMoth · 05/08/2011 22:08

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DrPolidori · 05/08/2011 22:09

Fabby. you are out of order.

BertieBotts · 05/08/2011 22:10

FFS FabbyChic! Your advice is downright dangerous once again.

fuzzywuzzy · 05/08/2011 22:11

Purlease, nobody is askin him to walk on water, everyone expects him not to be a vilolent, abusive, bullying wanker!

I manage it everyday of the week, altho I live under constant stress and I can't walk on fecking water either....

Or is it only poor ickle giant men who are excused this kind of behaviour towards their vulnerable fmailies????

PeppermintPasty · 05/08/2011 22:13

Christ I think this may escalate fast :( It's the grabbing and dangling of the children that really shocks, not that what he did to you wasn't bloody awful too. This is NOT normal stuff, and more or less everything you've said about him(ie his reaction to you talking about it etc) makes me imagine a coiled spring about to go pop. I have had 2 glasses of wine, I hope I'm wrong. You can't let your darlings be exposed to that sort of violent shit.

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PeppermintPasty · 05/08/2011 22:15

Fuck I just read that Fabby, what utter utter bollocks.

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FabbyChic · 05/08/2011 22:16

I don't think it is acceptable for him to strangle his wife, however I know a hell of a lot about breakdowns and mental health. This man is at the end of his tether, and is about to explode. If you know something is about to explode you don't light a match, you temper the way you behave.

The OP has said she loves him she wants to sort things out, my advice is based purely on those facts, not on running away from an 18 year relationship with someone who has never before displayed any sort of violent tendancies.

He is highly strung, and is fit to pop. You don't get out a needle and jab it. You try to help the situation.

If the OP wanted out I'd say run, she doesn't. My advise is based on what she wants not on what you all feel she should do, which she wouldn't because it;s a long term relationship, he has never done it before, and she loves him.

ilovejondanby · 05/08/2011 22:17

women's aid number 0808 2000 247, even if you can't/don't want to leave, they are non-judgemental and will listen, also if you can www.womensaid.org.uk. I promise they will help, the best thing I ever did was call them. Please don't put your kids through this x

shabbapinkfrog · 05/08/2011 22:18

Fabby - I have been doing exactly what you advise for the last 30 years - Im sorry and I dont mean to offend but you are totally and utterly wrong.

OP - get away and stay away.

GypsyMoth · 05/08/2011 22:18

fabby,she said he had never been violent before.......then goes on to describe all the previous goings on to the children!!

18 years or 18 months....all the same

PhilipJFry · 05/08/2011 22:22

Tempering the way they behave is EXACTLY what many abused women do. They change their behaviour to avoid setting off their partner, and it doesn't bloody work because they carry on with it anyway.

shabbapinkfrog · 05/08/2011 22:23

Phillip - Very true words.

ClaireDeLoon · 05/08/2011 22:24

Underachiever please get away from this man. Completely agree with those that say It sounds like the note is a way of building a legal defence. Please follow advice and get him out or leave yourself with DC's.

GypsyMoth · 05/08/2011 22:24

fabby,you have diagnosed him as being mentally ill over the internet??Hmm

he could be using drugs (remember the other MNer who was also strangled?)
he could be just showing his true colours

xylophone · 05/08/2011 22:25

Completely disagree with Fabby.

If he really couldn't control and sincerely regretted his violent outbursts then he would remove himself from the situation / house / family. He says in his note that he wants to 'run away' yet it is clear from his actions that he doesn't actually want to leave at all. In fact, he is just abusing his wife and children and using the oldest non-excuse in the book, 'you make me do this'.

TheOriginalFAB · 05/08/2011 22:25

WTF Fabby ShockAngry.

PeppermintPasty · 05/08/2011 22:28

I have to add too that a dear friend is currently going through courtroom hell with her ex and it is all about power and control(of course). He's not interested in the children, only in using them to get at the woman who dared say "No" to him. He did and does this stuff-writing emails/texts/letters about how he wants to sit and discuss stuff but she is SO unreasonable and SO unhinged blah blah, and sure enough-he's produced a paper trail purporting to show how sane he is. So be careful on that front, there's more going on here in his little screwed up violent head I bet.

StewieGriffinsMom · 05/08/2011 22:29

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malinkey · 05/08/2011 22:30

OP - have you got anyone in real life you could talk to about this?

PeppermintPasty · 05/08/2011 22:34

OP how do you feel right now? Are you angry, scared, fearful about what he could do, or what? Do you feel the need to do something about this? Sometimes shock wipes people out. I hope you're ok.

corlan · 05/08/2011 22:37

There has to be some consequence for what he has done.

If you just let it go, the chances are it will happen again.

If not for your sake, then for your children.

(After 1 year together, my ex starting being violent towards me. I did nothing and wasted 10 years of my life getting knocked around by this man - because I loved him! I bitterly regret it now,)

scurryfunge · 05/08/2011 22:39

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shabbapinkfrog · 05/08/2011 22:40

I'm just watching a tv programme called 'someones daughter, someones son' - I think it would be good for you to watch the story........

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