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The no contact/texting/email thread

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cathkidstonbag · 14/06/2011 14:19

I know it can't just be me who is struggling with not contacting someone they shouldn't so wondered if anyone else would like to join in here and we can support each other?
I have a thread somewhere titled don't want to sleep with DH and my circumstances are on there. But basically I need to stop contacting a man who is making my life miserable. I emailed him on Sat ending all contact with a brilliant email and was so proud of myself :) He then replied and instead of it being horrible it was nice sweet charming and I replied back :( So cross with myself. In it I told him about something awful that had happened so expected at least some sympathy for that. I got nothing :(
I need to never contact him again. To be strong enough not to beg him for contact.
Anyone else needing support???

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Dessie12 · 29/06/2011 12:41

Thanks fab for the advise, I still don't know what to do though, don't really want to hurt his feelings, silly as it sounds, there is no sexual content in his texts this time around, it's as if he doesn't want to push me too far and scare me away. It's his gf's birthday today and so we have been discussing what he's doing for her.
Last time we had NC was 13 years ago and it was so much easier then, don't know if I need him in my life or not, damn this first love shit.
Maybe things will just come to a natural conclusion and he will get bored of me and leave me alone.

TheOriginalFAB · 29/06/2011 12:50

You need to stop worrying about hurting his feelings and concentrate on what is best for you. I had to stop caring what he thought of me.

Dessie12 · 29/06/2011 12:58

I know that you are right fab, but it's just so hard, I also know that he has no feelings for me other that lust, which is really shitty cos' he is so special to me. I also know that he uses me for his own boost of ego cos'of these feelings and that hurts tbh.
It will never come to any good and he has told me that on a number of occasions and said that he is no good either, but still I go back.
How are you doing today Fab?

mytwoworlds · 29/06/2011 13:26

Dessie12, this is exactly me and my xom.

My big problem is that or families know each other, total NC would be impossible, our paths will inevitably cross.

TheOriginalFAB · 29/06/2011 13:38

You go back because it is what you know and even though you feel hurt by it, it is what is normal for you.

I'm fine, thank you and you will be too.

Dessie12 · 29/06/2011 18:39

Mytwoworlds, I feel sorry for you, we don't have that prob,that is why I managed to stay away for 13 years, in the first instance. I'm here if you need to chat.
What you say makes so much sence Fab, it is all that I know, he has treated me this way since I was 15 and he was my first everything bf, love, lost my viginity too and so at the grand old age of 30 now, it is all that I know from him and I guess that I am used to it.
That however doesn't make it right at all, if he would just tell me that he never loved me and never will and only wants me physically, than I will get closure and could move on.
My DH on the other hand is the complete opposite and is always showing me love and affection, with the OM it is always about sex and never anything else.
The really funny thing is that I am always the one that other ppl in rl come to with relationship probs cos' I usually know what to do, I am good at seeing ppl's angles and what they want, however in this instance I am totally blinded and it really pisses me off. If it was one of my friends in this situation I would tell them to fuck him off out of it by now.

TheOriginalFAB · 29/06/2011 18:57

Dessie - I know what you are going through. I had an emotional affair with my ex on my own. How stupid is that? Hmm. We than had another one where we were in contact. It was hard to know other people had kept us apart, yet before we were talking I asked myself who I would chose with no one hurt and it was always my DH. He has never let me down and I know he will always put me first. With my ex I never even knew if he would call.

fizzfiend · 30/06/2011 02:14

OriginalFAB...I also had my own little thing...all in my own head. He fancied the pants off me and I created my own little romance in my wonderful imagination. That was my fault.

Can I make a suggestion: sounds like we all are lusted after....and that might be the primary thing. Lust is strong, and the men also feels strongly with lust. Are we all just succumbing to a lust thing?

Just a suggestion...seems like that might be our common thread?

hardshipuntold · 30/06/2011 08:53

a few weeks ago i asked my om to just tell me he doesnt love me so i can move on from him and he got upset and said you know i cant say that beacuase i do love you ,14 years its been now and i feel the same as i did then - im my case i dont think its just lust.
still no word
not as raw as it was

TheOriginalFAB · 30/06/2011 09:02

fizz - it is a common theme. Also with us, he told me he just wasn't ready. I did ask me to marry him once and when I last was with him we said we would get married. If we had met a bit later we might have made it but tbh DH is the most amazing man and my prize for the shit childhood I had so all I would change is the upset I have caused him by talking to my ex.

hard it does get easier. I don't know where I am in the how many days but now I hardly think about him at all, once yesterday and only in a oh right way and then gone.

mytwoworlds · 30/06/2011 10:13

Fizz, that makes total sense!!!

Dessie, thank you I might take you up on that offer, I've known xOM for about 10 years, not personally but i knew his wife better Blush and now I know him better than his own wife does.

Anyway on a lighter note, the children are off today because of the strike and its lovely having them here, we're going to town later, I'm dreading tomorrow when they've all gone back to school.

I must say that as much as i'm pleased to have found this thread to talk about stuff, I feel really down too, this is the first time i've been able to tell anyone about my situation and actually writing it all down has brought all my feelings to the surface, I do hope this is a good thing though so I can deal with them and move on, I think keeping things to myself was making things worse, even though i feel worse for telling all...does that make sense? lol. Thanks for listening.

FreakoidOrganisoid · 30/06/2011 10:20

Mine definitely lusts/lusted after me but also told me he had feelings for me and loved me etc. Even when we had the conversation about going nc he was saying he still had feelings for me. Not convinced...it suits me better to believe he does, but if he really did I don't think he'd have found it so easy to just stop seeing me and contacting me.

Yesterday was hard, missed him a lot and normally would have just given in and text or called him but didn't. Had a couple of glasses of wine with a friend last night and was tempted to be really stalkerish and withold my number to call him just to hear his voice Blush. SO glad I didn't, would have been so ashamed of myself for behaving like that.

He drove past my house first thing this morning leaving his nans house, my stomach knotted up, I couldn't breathe. I hate that he has that effect on me Sad And even though I know he was probably just popping in on her to pick up his dd's birthday present (it's her birthday today) my imagination started running riot and I couldn't help myself from thinking maybe he and his gf had split up and he'd stayed there overnight Hmm

Was really really hard not to text him after i'd seen him, also hard not to wish his dd a happy birthday because I feel like a bitch who doesn't care when I really do. Am pretty determined though.

And I have to remind myself, he stopped contacting me first. Even though he said he still cared, still wanted us to be friends, still wanted to hear from me and loved getting texts and calls from me - HE had stopped contacting me other than to reply to my texts and that isn't the kind of friendship I want.

TheOriginalFAB · 30/06/2011 10:22

I should have said he asked me to marry him. I wouldn't want to marry me HmmGrin.

Dessie12 · 30/06/2011 13:55

Hi girls, hope that everyone is doing ok today.
I'm slowly weaning myself off of him, things have changed between us since I called NC 4 weeks ago and now things are deffo not the same.
He txted me yesterday morning and I replied for a couple of txts then stopped, he left me alone this morning and started again this afternoon, so again I have done the same. Again very mundane txts bout work etc... Nothing sexual at all which is really strange and quite boring tbh.
Fab I too had a really shitty childhood and he really helped me when I needed him and so that's why I think that I entertain him and put up with his shit so much.
Hope that you had a nice day with the DC's today two worlds
x

fizzfiend · 30/06/2011 14:06

Dessie and Fab: my father was horrid to us....in that he would tell us we were fat and not pretty like xyz on TV. That kind of thing destroys your self-confidence...I still have trouble believing I am worthy sometimes.

NC does strengthen your self-confidence though. It makes me feel as though I have some power for once. An unusual feeling for me.

headinamess · 30/06/2011 18:19

Please help. Am in horrendous pain and I've done it to myself. I can't talk to anyone else. I don't know what to do.

RubyPink · 30/06/2011 18:45

headinamess are you ok? you sound like you're in a bad way... I have felt
the same over the last few days but it is easing a bit now

TheOriginalFAB · 30/06/2011 19:12

headinamess - talk to us. We can try and help.

headinamess · 30/06/2011 19:16

Not okay, no. The scales fell from my eyes today after three years of a largely EA, and I feel so, so low.

I met my OM four years ago. On a course. We were good friends, he made it obvious he wanted more. Old, old story...my marriage wasn't great, but I wasn't admitting it to myself. Needed attention and he gave it - in spades. After a few months of being flirty friends and emailing all day, I caved and we had a snog. This led to an eight month affair during which we never had full sex, but did everything else.

During the affair I kept breaking it off and going NC, but kept caving. I also persuaded my dh to go for counselling, as I thought it would help me get over OM, but I'm ashamed to say I resumed the affair during counselling.

To be honest, counselling showed me that I should end my marriage, but dh is resolute that's not what he wants, and I can't bear to break up my family.

OM is married, no kids, much older than me.

I utterly adored him, we were so close, and he told me that he loved me so many times...he wishes he'd met me years ago, I was everything he ever wanted, all he usual.

Anyway, a year ago last May I ended it and confessed all to my dh. He was devastated. He forgave me and persuaded me to recommit to our marriage, which I did, probably knowing my heart wasn't in it. I was honest with dh and told him that I still loved OM, didn't love him the way I should, etc. He just said that I made a promise when I married him, and he was holding me to it, and that if I wanted to leave I'd have to file for divorce as he was not going to voluntarily leave his kids. He also said that any divorce would not be amicable.

There followed nearly a year of NC, which was a living hell. I spent a year like a zombie, looking for OM everywhere I went, thinking of him constantly, drinking too much...you name it. Then in March I hit rock bottom, and deliberately put myself in his path. We started stalking each other on FB, then messaging. Since then up to today we've been in daily contact, with our usual angsting and occasional meetings that usually ended in a snog. The thing was, I was always realistic about what we were doing, pointing out the dangers and pitfalls. Not deluding myself was the only thing that stopped me being a cliche.

The other day I was on one of my honesty tips and I said I knew how it would end - I'd be on my own because dh would find out and he would never leave his wife. He was gutted, said it wasn't fair, being on your own is awful. We met today and it was brought home to me for the first time that all I've ever been, all I ever was going to be was a bit on the side.

Even though he always said he'd never leave his wife, maybe there was a tiny part of me that hoped he would, or hoped he wanted to. No.

And it was also brought home to me that I love him so, so much more than he loves me. He said that he wanted our affair to carry on. I said the fact that he could bear it, the separation, the inability to do something as simple as have a coffee together shows that he is miles away from where I am.

Then I walked away from him. For the first time ever. And he didn't follow me.

Now he's blocked me from his fb page. He's never done that before. I messaged him, and he hasn't replied.

I'm devastated, and I don't deserve to be. I've brought it all on myself.

Sorry this is so long. I'm self-indulgent. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be in this mess.

If you've stayed with it this long, thank you.

TheOriginalFAB · 30/06/2011 19:45

Oh love. We have all done similar things and have come out the other side. You made the first step, keep going forward, don't look back.

headinamess · 30/06/2011 19:48

I just feel such an idiot. And so ridiculous. How could I have listened to him?

And talk about low self-esteem...

And I still haven't blocked him from my fb. I can't bring myself to do it.

TheOriginalFAB · 30/06/2011 20:14

There is no point doing anything until you are ready. I did that and it ended up taking a ridiculous amount of time to cut all contact for good.

headinamess · 30/06/2011 20:21

That's what I said when I messaged him. That I'd seen he'd made his fb page private, and that I hadn't yet, but that any posts were not an attempt to lure him back, it's just that I need to take babysteps and do things when I'm ready, because rushing things has never worked in the past.

Sad Sad

Dessie12 · 30/06/2011 20:29

Poor Fizz, I really feel for you, that must have been terrible to go through, my childhood was shit as I said but way too complicated to start posting on here. And that is not the reason why I am on this thread either.
Headinamess it's good that you have joined us and we will all offer you support for as long as you need us fab is right, all of us are taing baby steps at the mo, one day at a time.

Dessie12 · 30/06/2011 20:29

Sorry you are right with the babysteps idea.

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