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He tried to have sex with me while I was asleep

489 replies

maristella · 05/06/2011 21:46

And I'm very fucking angry about it.

The more I tried to stop him, the more he interpreted my movement as a green light. I kept saying let me sleep, I rolled away until I ha nowhere left to go, I kept taking his hands and cock away from me. The only way I was able to make him stop was to get out of bed. He looked so utterly wounded and rejected Angry

It was a new relationship, I really liked him, and this was the first time we spent the night together, and the last.

I fucking hate him, I have rejected all his calls since and he is still ringing and texting. I know I should have spelled it out to him, but I knew I would have been bombarded. He sent me loads of emails saying he wanted to spend the weekend with me and DS; he's never met my DS! I don;t ever want him to meet DS, ever! I emailed back (the only contact I've made to him since I stayed over) and said I really don;t want a relationship. But he is still fucking trying!

I could actually go to the police, which might mean that mutual friends and family are dragged into this, I might be vilified for this. I don;t want or deserve that. I could carry on dodging him. I might flip and call him a pervert and threaten to tell my family and our friends.

I just needed to let that out....

OP posts:
bejeezus · 06/06/2011 00:16

Wotty- i notice 1 of your links is to a StormFront webpage- are you a supporter?

CliffTumble · 06/06/2011 00:17

Wottywot, you ARE Ken Clarke and I claim my £200.
Op, please ignore all the shitheads on this thread, you've done nothing wrong.

AyeRobot · 06/06/2011 00:19

What sort of sick and twisted individual posts stories of rapes on a thread by someone who is a victim of attempted rape as some sort of comparator so that she can place herself in some rape victim hierarchy?

AyeRobot · 06/06/2011 00:20

"supposed rape victim hierarchy"

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 00:24

Agree with wottywot

Omigawd · 06/06/2011 00:24

That the guy was a complete dickhead is beyond dispute, but (at the clear risk of considerable opprobrium, but in a vain attempt to inject some rationality back in this thread), technically there was no rape nor assault here as the OP sensibly hopped out of bed too quickly.

The real issue is the continued attempt to contact the OP,whopresumably did let him knowthings were over.that is wher no really should mean no,and IMOthe OP should threaten to go to the police.

Checkmate · 06/06/2011 00:24

maristella I think you, should, at the least, tell mutual friends that the relationship is over, that he is making you feel uncomfortable, and that if he contacts you again you will be contacting the police.

Please ignore the horrific trolling going on this evening.

Wottywot's posts sound like a male, not a female, writing them. And not an enlightened, faithful, kind man.

AyeRobot · 06/06/2011 00:26

Technically, there was attempted rape. Can you not read?

And I have already said she should go to the police. Not threaten it.

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 00:27

It's funny how if a persons view point disagrees with the majority a person is considered a troll!

AyeRobot · 06/06/2011 00:27

Nice first post, Wottywot beautifulswan.

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 00:30

Thanks AyeRobot.

The thing is, the OP WASN'T raped, was she? There seems to be a lot of sympathy bandied about but nothing actually happened.

AyeRobot · 06/06/2011 00:32

It was attempted rape. Can you not read? Do you not understand the law? Are you a shit lover or a rapist?

Anyway, I'm off to set my boundaries.

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 00:38

It's a very fine line and I don't think we know enough of the details to say it was attempted rape or not. Seems OTT to me. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not here to troll or provoke just read the thread and thought it was a huge over reaction. Men try it on with women all the time, often getting sulky if they don't get their way. Dick heads I know, but it happens. Are they all cases of attempted rape? I don't think so.

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 01:23

Just reread this page, just to clarify I am not Wottywot or wotever her/his name is! I have lurked for some time and just decided to post.

I also just reread op's original post to check I hadn't missed anything, again, I feel the majority of posters have hugely over reacted. Her post does not refer to feeling threatened of being raped, merely pissed off at his unwanted advances.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 06/06/2011 01:39

You haven't read her subsequent posts? She does say she felt threatened.

Again, with short words for the hard of understanding:

She said NO, clearly, TEN TIMES.
He used PHYSICAL FORCE to attempt to penetrate her.
The attempt ended only when she was able to physically remove herself from the situation.

Now, beautifulswan and zookeeper and Wotty, do you or do you not consider that the above constitutes attempted rape?

spiderslegs · 06/06/2011 01:56

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laptopwieldingharpy · 06/06/2011 02:03

what spider said

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 02:06

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beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 02:08

my "No I don't" remark was for TontheHS! Agree whole heartedly with Spider!

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Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 06/06/2011 02:23

Bloody hell, you'll go to a lot of effort to avoiding inferring attempted rape by a man you don't know and have never met, won't you? I wonder why you're so invested in that? What do you gain by assuming that the OP's interpretation of her own experience is false?

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 02:32

I'm not invested in anything! I read the thread and was alarmed by how many posters called this attempted rape without really knowing the full details. It's an unpleasant accusation, one I think, given the circumstances that we know of, OTT and simply wrong.

Not once did the OP suggest attempted rape, every one else decided that for her.

I gain nothing, am just making an observation, expressing a view. One which apprently means I can't read and must be a name changing troll.

beautifulswan · 06/06/2011 02:35

christ, apparrently

Ria28 · 06/06/2011 02:38

I think the full details are:
the OP was in a relationship, after a month they had sex and she stayed the night
the boyfriend woke up and tried to instigate sex (so far, nothing wrong)
the OP said no, clearly and repeatedly, yet the boyfriend only stopped when she physically got away from him.
How often does a woman have to say no? Attempting to have sex with someone who has not give/withdrawn consent is exactly what attempted rape is, even if no force at all were used. The fact he didn't succeed means that it wasn't rape, just attempted. Precisely what in this do you disagree with?

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