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OK, new beginnings, new thread, it WAS right to serve divorce papers!

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Wisedupwoman · 26/05/2011 19:34

I asked the question - Am I right to serve the divorce papers on my chameleon-like but definitely cheating, lying, cruel and manipulative STBXH. You all said "YES". So I have. The story continues.........

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Wisedupwoman · 12/07/2011 20:28

And have just eceived lovely reassuring email from sol wishing me luck.

Feeling quite loved up actually.

Night all. x

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MigratingCoconuts · 12/07/2011 20:45

I'm ready with my voodoo doll with wearing purple trousers and one wednesday sock...and long blunt pins.......

CelebratedMonkey · 12/07/2011 22:56

Good luck!

heleninahandcart · 13/07/2011 00:15

Hoping you'll get this in the morning, good luck! You are WISEY! x

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AnotherMumOnHere · 13/07/2011 12:03

You wont get this message till later but I just want you to know my thoughts have been with you all day. TC xx

Wisedupwoman · 13/07/2011 14:04

Just come home to get changed into fuck you shoes etc.

Feeling somewhat quivery but your messages of support are lovely thank you. DD is on hand too.

I'm leaving in 30 minutes so I'm off to get changed.

See you later on.
x

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MinesaGandT · 13/07/2011 14:28

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Dozer · 13/07/2011 18:16

Wine needed Wisey? Wine

Or perhaps a cuppa would be best Brew

Wisedupwoman · 13/07/2011 23:09

Hello.

.

PTM was toast.

Opted to wait in ante room. Made entrance once PTM was in mediation room. I saw him looking at me but I didn't focus on him at all, so I think he was trying to smile at me, or at least acknowledge me - I didn't return it. My heart was in my chest for the first 10 minutes whilst the mediator asked us what the issues were.

And then suddenly I was ok. I held my chin up and looked at the mediator almost entirely throughout the 2 hours. He said he was unsure how to proceed with two psychotherapists in the room and I said it's fine I've never conducted family therapy with two lawyers and then it broke the ice - I was in control.

PTM says:
I have burned my bridges where I lived, can't return there. I have lost my bottle as a profesional as a result of the marriage break down, probably can't return there, so am looking to change my job if I don't lose it any way. Mediator says "does that worry you at all ms Wisey"? and I say "no, not at all I exptected that" and a really perturbed look from PTM came back, which I ignored.
PTM says:
I don't feel comfortable agreeing to severing the joint tenancy on the mortgage. I say, "well you dont have to agree, it's happening", get a sol.
He says What about all my proposals? I imagined you would have thought them through by now but you have ignored them. I say "no, my sol isn't interested in emails with figures on them that don't mean anything, and you forget that I have an imagined future of my own. I will let you know once the full financial picture has been disclosed".
PTM says:
I don't know where I will live, maybe X or where I grew up, I don't want to buy another house or take another mortgage. i want to make sure Wisey is ok. I am staying with a 'friend' at the moment.
he says:
What conversations have you had with our DS's that they don't want to have a relationship with me anymore, and I am scared that these conversations will contaminate my relationship with DD.
I say: this is not a mediation topic. I will not discuss this. My DS's are adults and make their own decisions. Any contamination of your relationship with DD took place before you left. This was your choice and the consequences which are unfolding for you are not my problem.

PTM says:
what is happening to my post/my email address/direct debits for bills etc because important stuff is not getting to me and I am being billed for things. I said "not my problem", get your address changed, contact utilities, or get yourself a sol.

etc etc.

i watched him deflate out of the corner of my eye. At one point he got all his stuff together as if to walk out but he didn't, he looked ready to 'cry'.

We are meeting again in september. I agreed to let him collect some more stuff from the shed this evening, and he had to agree to someone being there - he fought but I stayed resolute that as i was going out and there was no one else at home i would arrange for one of my friends to be there. He gave in. Then I got a "thank you" text which I deleted.

So I think it went well for me. I know what he wants and he knows what I want and he knows that I will not be bounced into anything. I just kept repeating the same things "this is not up for discusion, I will take it to my so, and it's not my problem sort it yourself".

Then I got up, said goodbye to the mediator and just walked out without saying another word to PTM.

I read your posts and DD's letter before I went in. She had written lovely words. That I should get what I want, not to let 'that man' get the better of me, that you only get one DM and she got lucky, and that I am the bigger person. She said try not to laugh if he's wearing the purple trousers (dont know, he was sitting down the whole time!).

Long post sorry, bit rambly as I've obviously had some wine and a lovely meal with RL friends.

XX

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enuffalready · 13/07/2011 23:16

WELL DONE!! If you can hear distant cheering that'll be me!

Wisedupwoman · 13/07/2011 23:21

BTW!

When ptm said I just want to pay the mortgage for the rest of its life and let Wisey have all the equity (cos I'm such a caring bloke) mediator said

hmm, so what's your agenda? ptm fluffed about a bit. so mediator said again yes ptm but i still don't get this. What is your agenda here? clocked him. ptm says well I want to keep my pension.
so mediator outed him. and i said well I want some of the pension. i built my future based on that, and i'm prepared to negotiate some equity on the house based on that. so mediator is going to prepare some figures for me. Which I said I'll take to my sol (must have said that 20 times).

poor old p-fucking-trousered-fucking-man.

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TimeForMeIsFree · 14/07/2011 00:30

Wow! Just, Wow! You are amazing! You should set up your own business advising women on how to handle their divorces. I am very proud of you Smile

heleninahandcart · 14/07/2011 00:41

Way to go Wisey. Should have written 'rolls cigar, puts fuck off dhoes on table, strokes white cat on lap Grin

Take time for yourself, allow yourself to let it out, and reflect on just what you've achieved

heleninahandcart · 14/07/2011 00:41

Shoes !

Wisedupwoman · 14/07/2011 06:11

thank you Smile

You're right helena, I need time now to think about how it's all gone, to connect the path I'm on now with the one I thought I was on.

He kept shaking his head in disbelief. He was at a loss as to how to respond to me, that's a first. He knew he was sitting in a room with a woman he doesn't recognise any longer and he knew that he was the one with all the unanswered questions because I know all I need to know now.

He tried to make me feel sorry for him (old trick) but I wasn't having any of it, I've fallen for that so many times when he's fucked up before. So he had to find a way to passively attack me by bringing up the DC's. And I wasn't having that either. He's upping the maintenance before the CSA start taking it from his wages.

So I genuinely think that he is reeling from the backlash, knows he's acted shamefully and he's pretty desperate to make things ok so that his DD will still want him in her life, and I suspect that the OW and him aren't destined for a rosy future after all. But wtf, if she's prepared to put a shit load of work into massaging his massively deflated ego then good luck to her, rather her than me.

Couldn't have done it without you. (((((((((hugs))))))))) to you all.

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MinesaGandT · 14/07/2011 07:03

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Alldownhillnow · 14/07/2011 07:41

Fantastic! Grin 'chickens and home to roost' come to mind.

I was just thinking that this thread should act as the best resource and support in the world for people who are going through the same thing as you Wisey.

AND...

It should act as a warning to any 'bolters' who think they can dump all over their life partner and walk away without a second glance. You really can't always get what you want.

Dozer · 14/07/2011 08:28

Round of applause!

AnotherMumOnHere · 14/07/2011 09:31

Oh Wisey, I'm so so pleased for you and PROUD doesnt cover it with regards to the way you conducted yourself and came out on top. You were in my thoughts most of the day.

You did all the right things and you knew you had loads of support behind you including your fantastic children. CONGRATULATIONS !!

Enjoy your day and exhale, you have done wonders.

Have fun today and if you feel like it a Wine too.

TC xx

Anniegetyourgun · 14/07/2011 09:44

Amazing. I believe that is what is known in sporting circles as "playing a blinder". He can't have known what hit him, but whatever it was, it was hard.

BurningBright · 14/07/2011 13:47

Wisey, I lurked on your original thread and have lurked on this one from day one. I haven't generally posted because the advice you've been getting from others is so much better than any I could offer. But I catch up with you every day and I was thinking about you yesterday. Having just read your updates about the mediation I would like to delurk for a moment to say how completely in awe I am. Congratulations. You took control, you were dignified and you are, frankly, a bit of an inspiration.

[Starts Mexican wave in appreciation of Wisey's fabulousness]

[Returns to stealth mode]

FannyFerknackerPants · 14/07/2011 14:31

Echoing what BurningBright says above. I have been reading your threads since the beginning and posted once under another name. Have not been able to offer advice, but am in your cheerleading team! You are an inspiration to us all X

Alldownhillnow · 14/07/2011 15:23
MigratingCoconuts · 14/07/2011 16:33

I have the biggest smile on my face right now!!!!!

Awesome, Wisey, truely amazing!

Helena is right, take time to digest this...it might bring up some conflicting emotions for you to deal with.

Favourite phrase 'PTM is toast!'

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