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Support for those in Emotionally Abusive Relationships

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ViVee · 20/05/2011 21:49

I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread, a place to vent, offer support, advice.

I'm in an emotionally abusive relationship but I'm trying to find the tools to fight back - I've recently started counselling & the Lundy Bancroft book (Why Does He Do That? Inside The Minds of Angry and Controlling Men) (recommended by mumsnetters) has become my bible.

Anyone else feel the same?

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bigbuttons · 23/06/2011 12:43

humpty good to see you back, hope you're ok. I know it does all get overwhelming, especially when there are lots of posts.

MadameOvary · 23/06/2011 13:13

HerHissy:
"demented, never ever lessen the experience that you are going through right now. As honest as you think you are being, we all know that the amount of blocking out and normalising is unimaginable. There will be things that will occur to you when you are like mousey and me and out of the relationship, that you never realised just how awful they are until long afterwards. There are no "worse thans" here, we all need help and to be heard.

remember also that our abusers tailor make the treatment too, so what works with one, may not be so effective on another."

Spot on! That is so true.

Mouse - it seems you found the DH you truly deserved.

I haven't seen X for a few days. It makes such a difference. Smile

snowmama · 23/06/2011 13:17

Warning. Very long.. not important that you read this, more important that I write it and acknowledge that it happened.. to me.

You know what is so ironic about not being able to post about my ex is that I left him over a year ago, so you would think that I would be over it already.

We met in another country where my family are from, about 10 years ago. I had just come out of another abusive relationship and was loving being
single. He was beautiful, charming and sweet and we got together quickly I moved to the other country for a short time, during which I made no friends and was mostly drunk. I could not understand why all potential friends were unsuitable, me spending time with them generating angry or sulky responses from him. I could not understand why my sweet man would suddenly and incomprehensively verbally attack random male friends for having mundane conversations with me.

We decided to move back to the UK. I sponsored his visa, funded his MA, let him live in my house and subsidised living costs for both of us. I was in debt to the tune of £30k within the year. In the end I had to sell my own house to clear the debt and start again.

He had a fling with a fellow student, and convinced me that I was imagining things when I found the incriminating emails. He started telling me that my friends and family were bad for me and behaved in an abusive manner towards me.

We decided to get married, it was a stressful time ? I was torn between being fundamentally suspicious of marriage and desperate to ?prove? my commitment to him and wanting him to love me openly and easily. I ended up spending a fortune on a wedding with a ?reception? in both countries, wearing an stupidly expensive dress. He remained detached, got drunk and somewhat aggressive at our UK wedding and apparently made a pass on one of my friends (I found out years later). In the other country he became aggressive, snarling at me every evening about how much of a failure I was and how unreasonable my family were. A terrible argument between my brother and him transpired which has never been forgotten by any of us.

Our relationship started to get volatile, me dreading him drinking and his inevitable rage that followed, shouted arguments, belongings broken, walls being punched, tears (his). We started to TTC, nothing happened and I convinced myself that I could not get pregnant. After a terrible argument I walked out, got very drunk and announced to my friends that the relationship was over. The next day I found out I was 10 weeks pregnant, then day after that I got offered a fantastic job in another city.

We stayed together and moved to the other city. The next few months were perfect, calm, loving.... we were a lovely little family and happy, (though his drinking continued unabated). I did however find a visa bill indicating he had spent £200 in a strip club. He managed to convince me it was an accident, led by his friends ? yes he understood the issues I had with strip clubs and mistreatment of women, etc, etc.

I went to back to work, it became stressful, the drinking rose, the anger at me for depending on him for nursery drop offs and pick ups grew..

I became overwhelmed with a sense of broodiness I have never felt before or since? I had to get pregnant, that was all I could think about. We had sex twice, I was pregnant again all became quiet and loving again, with my pregnancy, baby's birth and maternity leave being calm and peaceful times, that honestly, I will always cherish.

By the time our second child was 6 months old, the drinking was continuous, the criticism relentless, the rages daily, the sense of foreboding constant.. I then found a series of emails indicating a full blown affair between him and an OW. I rang him and told him the marriage was over. He returned 48 hours later, drunk tried to get the children to pack to leave threatening ?I would never see them again?, tried to leave to ?commit suicide?, wandered through the house with a knife threatening to self harm.. I called the police and ambulance who told me to leave the property. I did for an hour then returned

I physically left 2 months later. Since then we have had abusive calls, drunken threats, police called when he visited the kids, the works. It is tiring, I no longer own a house, or have a deposit to buy another one but am blessed with two beautiful, vibrant, happy children and life is so much better now than being with him.

Anniegetyourgun · 23/06/2011 13:18
Sad

I can't begin to explain how much you thoroughly deserve a lovely man who adores you. If he ever forgets that himself he would be the biggest fool on the planet.

Really shit things do happen to nice people and there ain't no reason for it. Look at dear little Nemo: he hasn't had the opportunity to do anything wrong but he still has his problems. That's proof that you don't get shit for deserving it, you get shit because it's flying around and happened to land on you. On the other hand nice people do leave themselves open to nice things happening. You have a DH who loves you. Those evil buggers will never have that kind of love because as soon as they've suckered someone in, they start to abuse her. Six years (and hopefully many decades more) of living, loving, growing together, supporting each other, just won't happen for them. They could have had it with you but they had to be horrible instead. Thus they lost you as they will continue to lose or destroy every other partner who could have loved them.

Sneaky little tears drying up again now Smile

Anniegetyourgun · 23/06/2011 13:24

Above was to Mouse of course, x-posted with you snowmama. I don't think you just get over being with someone for years, however clear it is that it had to end. I've been three years divorced from XH, nearly three years out of living with him, and I'm certainly not over it (though a LOT better). However it sounds as if you have a good life without him and you will recover, it just takes as long as it takes. Indeed, there's an argument for not ever quite getting over it: those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

snowmama · 23/06/2011 13:28

That is a good point Annie, for some reason feel I should be over it.

Xpost still made sense, it was Mouse's ability to bravely share her story, that made me think I should stop hiding.

MadameOvary · 23/06/2011 13:31

Snowmama you did it! Well done Smile
But honestly, a year is NOTHING. It might take one person that long to even start to face what happened, then acknowledge it, process it, come to terms with it...
It all takes a LONG time.

Anniegetyourgun · 23/06/2011 13:32

Well I'll never get over the embarrassment of allowing myself to be taken for a mug for so many years. I don't have to live with XH any more but I still have to live with myself!

snowmama · 23/06/2011 13:41

Ha ha, MadameO a teeny 'yay' for me. That is it Annie, I just keep asking myself the same thing.

Mouseface · 23/06/2011 15:47

snowmama - I hope that you feel better for sharing that with us. I'm so glad that you felt you could let it all out after reading my post. Smile xx

Annie - what a wise lady you are. Thank you for you kind words xx

barbiegrows · 23/06/2011 18:20

snowmama well done you - you saved your children from what could have been years and years of dysfunction and possibly permanent damage.

But I can't help thinking (I'm still in relationship) that things would really kick off when I go - in the same way that yours did. When the time comes I will have to face it I guess. First time I left he was in denial (he thought I was just moving out, not ending relationship!), second time he initially threatened with going abroad and he would never see the kids again and I would get 'nothing' but then he came 100 miles to get me back and apologise.

Anyways.

Mouseface · 23/06/2011 18:47

barbi - emotional blackmail. 10 miles or 100........ shouldn't make a difference, should it?

I don't know the background but he sounds pretty pathetic if he's using the 'I'll never have contact with the DCs again if you leave me'

Again, emotional blackmail. Ifs, buts and maybes in an attempt to hold onto the control he has, how childish.

Does anyone in RL know what's going on Barbie?

Mouseface · 23/06/2011 18:48

Sorry about spelling your name wrong Blush

ViVee · 23/06/2011 19:19

Hi,

Have just read your post, Mouseface / Superwoman. sorry you went through that. thank you for sharing x

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ViVee · 23/06/2011 19:26

Haven't been around for a while. I'm trying to read through the posts, there are so many!!

The horrid sex thing we all go through - I used to sleep right on the edge of the bed. H in the middle/my side. If I woke, I didn't dare move.

Then when I was pregnant, I used to get very restless & once I rolled over & flung my arm out, smacking H on the side of his head Grin, barely opened one eye & I just about made out a face looking at me like this Shock

Argh, DS up, will come back later to read through, hope every one ok

V xx

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snowmama · 23/06/2011 19:34

Mouseface I do feel better, it is a bit odd....I will admit your story has been playing on my mind today, and I do really understand it is not for me to cry over it, but how fucking dare he do those terrible things to you. You are a true survivor, and I just dont know what else to say.

Barbie I hat the same concern, and sure enough he did kick off but it is was like when we were together, but this time I had the police, women's aid and my friends and family to support me. Also as you stop being used to the craziness, the nonsense becomes more visible, and you find yourself laughing at the crazy statements they come out with. Do you have anyone in RL, in whom you can confide.

Having my children in a calm and happy home is worth every moment of hassle he comes up with.

snowmama · 23/06/2011 19:45

Didn't mean to sound flippant Barbie, it took me a long time and several attempts to leave.

ViVee · 23/06/2011 20:22

have now read your post snowmama.

brave, brave ladies.

I'm in a bit of a half-way stage. H spends his days off here, but leaves when the DC's go to bed. A sort of calmness in the house decsends then, AND I have a bed all to myself, no more sleeping on the edge / on edge. Then the panic will rise when I hear his key in the door tomorrow morning.

haven't started on any divorce proceedings, I'm not strong enough for that yet.

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ribbonsandlace · 23/06/2011 21:32

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ribbonsandlace · 23/06/2011 21:45

Sorry, that last sentence of the second paragraph was supposed to read "...I hope your life is now blessed with peace and calm".

HerHissyness · 23/06/2011 21:47

ribbons, every cycle of shite will carry you closer to finding the exit!

One day will be your day!

ribbonsandlace · 23/06/2011 21:54

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ribbonsandlace · 23/06/2011 21:55
dementedma · 23/06/2011 21:56

trying to post but site keeps dumping me. wrote long post and lost it all.
quicky, how to define EA relationship and one which is just tired and niggly and the way it is between adults?

ribbonsandlace · 23/06/2011 22:08

God, I ask myself the same question every day dementedma. I have no answer I?m afraid but I?m really interested to see if anyone else does as it?s tormenting me beyond belief.

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