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Anyone had an affair and not regreted it?

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kitty1 · 20/05/2011 21:43

I had fling with someone and never have regretted it. It helped me realise that my marriage was well and truly over and i couldnt go back.
By the point i had this fling my ex h and i hadnt had not been having sex because he had some issues he coudnt/wouldnt deal with.

I read some where once that when a woman emabarks on affair she has mentally packed her bags and left the relationship , when a man does it its usually because he is bored and craves excitement.

Anyone here feel the same?

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catwalker · 23/05/2011 09:07

Censoring would be when you say that those of us who find the original post tasteless shouldn't say so - wouldn't it?! Your comment about weightloss doesn't make sense - since when has anyone considered that inappropriate behaviour?!

Why don't you take your own advice and, if you don't like WWIFN's style - step away from her posts??!!! If I had to bet on who had the most letters of support sitting in their inbox - I'd put my money on WWIFN!

Aislingorla · 23/05/2011 09:21

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Jo01 · 23/05/2011 09:25

Dear Kitty1 and Lookinfoxy thank you so much for starting this thread. A year ago I would have got on my moral high horse and thought exactly the way wwifn does, but then an ex contacted me on fb and I fell hopelessly. It was shocking for me, but it did show me that I had emotionally packed. I was hanging on to a marriage that had been over for more than 7 years, but stayed for my daughter, till she asked me to leave. No physical abuse, but a very selfish man, who only came to my bed for sex and leaved immediately afterwards (think I would have gotten more out of it if I charged for it ....). I married for life, and had it not been for this OM I would still be married, and the walking dead. I am now newly seperated, and the sad thing is, it feels no different to being married, except I now get to do my own thing without constant criticism and feeling lonely. I am alone, but not lonely anymore. I am sure many can relate to that feeling. This emotional affair I had woke me up, it made me realise I had options, I didn't have to stay just for my daughters sake. The OM also had a realisation, he realised just how important his children are to him, and decided to stay with his wife. She has gone for counselling and apparantly made some significant changes. Before I came into the picture, she was unwilling to change her behaviour, so basically everyone has benefitted.

I am now facing the divorce process, but every single thing that has happened since the OM came into my life and made me feel desired/loved/wanted/sexy/needed/worthwhile/happy/intelligent/funny and confused, has only served to prove to me that this was the right thing. My husband never knew about it, but the minute I offered him a seperation, he litterally sighed a huge sigh of relief. He practically dragged me out of the house on the moving day, like he couldn't get me out quick enough, and since then has been very compliant with each and every step of the way, and shown his usual lack of concern for my health, happiness or safety. If it wasn't for our daughter I don't think we would ever have contact again. A bit of a shocker when I had put up with so much rubbish from him and kept on trying harder, cheapening myself to try to make the marriage work, all he was waiting for, was for me to finally 'get it', as he was too lazy to implement a divorce himself.

I do not regret my emotional affair with the OM, or anything that has happened as a result. People see me now and ask if I have changed my hair/lost weight, but the change is, I am just no longer stressed and strained by a labourious marriage. So thank you for this thread. And btw, for all those critics out there, it turns out the OM's wife actually had an affair a number of years back that she left him for, but he forgave her for the sake of the children, so no I don't feel guilty even on that score. It seems like him having options took her power away and she had to look at herself. Personally my whole belief system has been turned on its head, yes there are some serial cheaters, but I think for the most part, no-one in a committed relationship cheats unless there is something seriously wrong, and from my very limited experience, it can either put an end to a necrotic relationship, or improve a flailing one.

coppertop · 23/05/2011 09:46

I'm struggling to understand what the problem is with WWIFN passing on the information that helped her in her own situation. Don't we all do that?

I'm sure that anyone doing a search on my posts would find that I recommend particular methods and books time and time again. If someone posts who I feel might be experiencing something that I've been through then I pass on the various strategies that helped me. Other posters will also come along and say "Actually XYZ didn't work out for me at all. I had much more success with ABC". That's the way MN works. In my case my posts are about SN and autism, but surely the same principle also applies to the Relationships section?

No doubt there are people out there thinking "Why can't she move on from autism and stop dwelling on it so much?" My reply would be that autism has had a huge impact on my life and it's been a difficult journey. If I can I would like to be able to help make someone else's journey easier by sharing my own experiences.

And to me that's no different to what WWIFN does with regard to affairs and relationships.

Aislingorla · 23/05/2011 10:02

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Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:03

I don't like this ganging up on WWFn, I think it's really mean. Whatever she thinks, this is like a witch-hunt. People are being so personal about her and going on about her marriage and stuff. Honestly, it's like no one has the guts to say what they think until they are altogether in a gang and once they are altogether in a gang, they sense a bit a power and wham, really lay it into her.

justforthisonepost · 23/05/2011 10:06

At the end of the day this is words on a screen.

None of us know the full story from both sides on MN. There's three sides to every story, your side, my side and the truth (which usually lies somewhere in the middle). Advice and support is what we come here for - you can take it or leave it, that's the whole point.

And whether someone is professionally qualified in any area be it in relationships or law or medicine, any advice given on here should not be taken as gospel because as good as MN is it is only an internet forum.

And with that I am stepping away from this thread.

Aislingorla · 23/05/2011 10:09

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SunRaysthruClouds · 23/05/2011 10:09

"It is odd, however, the way she devotes so much time and energy to these threads"

Given how many posts there are on here and the nature I think that applies to just about everyone on this topic!
Perhaps the message to people who need advice on here should be:
"The MNers who post supportive words are trying to help and have a great deal of combined experience; but it is worth looking at all of them and trying to take an objective view, not be swayed by the words (or good or bad spelling) but by what they are trying to say"
I think most people understand that .

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:11

I doubt it's "words on a screen" for When at the moment. Anyway even if she doesn't care, it doesn't say much for the people who have been so personal and unpleasant, or that they've all chosen this moment to come out of the wooodwork and say yeah, yeah, that's right get her, go on, get her. PMing people my arse. What a load of rubbish.

I don't even agree with her all the time but I think she has some great thoughts and she's very articulate. I don't think an affair is always the worst thing in the world, I don't think what you did was so terrible and evil, just, but you know, it's possible to disagree with someone, without this personal stuff.

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:12

yes they have insulted her, they've implied there's something wrong with her marriage or her life, they've implied she's obsessed, they've implied she is weird for spending too much time on mn

what's that about

justforthisonepost · 23/05/2011 10:12

I haven't made it personal though. Confused

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:13

well i've lowered my opinion of a few people

but anyway

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:14

no I don't think you did just, but quite a few others did and you have to admit that too

justforthisonepost · 23/05/2011 10:17

Oh yes I can see that.

it's certainly given me a wake up call to be very careful how I word my posts if I'm trying to be supportive.

I think if you feel strongly about a situation, you've been in it, and you have found a way through the situation that worked well for you, and you read a helpful book, or got some great counselling or whatever, it's easy to post from your own situation - which is great, and personal experience from other people is what makes MN work, but it isn't necessarily the answer for the other person IYSWIM?

And again, the whole point of advice is that you can take it or leave it.

AnyFucker · 23/05/2011 10:17

Gosh, those people questioning why wwifn spends so much time on the boards are still here trying to drum up support in the campaign against her

look to your own RL, before you question others, eh ?

at least the time wwifn (and others like her) ispend is in an attempt to support people going through an awful time

can you slaggers-off say the same ?

this thread now really is a disgrace

those hiding behind name changes really need to take a long, hard look at themselves

I doubt they will though, as it is in their own best interests to slag off someone who takes people to task for glorying in infidelity

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:19

oh who name-changed?

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:20

apart from the people who revealed too much of course that's quite understandable

Gooseberrybushes · 23/05/2011 10:20

also I don't think people are glorying in infidelity

that's not a very nice thing to say

thinNigella · 23/05/2011 10:25

I agree with whenwillI. (I find that I often do.)

Affairs are so damaging for everyone involved, and I mean everyone. It isself-delusional for any of you to think otherwise, I'm afraid.

In my experience they change the way people view them, and that view, once changed never goes back. You can never un-do what you did no matter how much you regret it or hurt somone.

And even if you don't regret it, you can't undo the fact that others will view you diffrerently for ever.

And if you think you didn't hurt someone, you are wrong.

strawberryjelly · 23/05/2011 10:33

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ALittleBitFragile · 23/05/2011 10:36

I just wanted to pipe up in support of wwifn.

She helped me enormously when I was in a horrendous and complicated situation (when I went under another name). She didn't even particularly want to help me (I think she thought things were beyond redemption!) but I am very glad she did.

I was very vulnerable, but I didn't feel under any obligation to take all her advice- I listened to her in the same way that I listened to other posters on my thread then made my own mind up.

I saw a professional counsellor as well and I have to say that her advice (and the advice of many other posters on MN in fact) was far better - more intelligent, sensitive and objective.

I will be grateful for the rest of my life that wwifn (and many others too) took significant time out of their own lives to help me; a complete stranger; and give me the benefit of their hard won advice and experience. I am serious when I say that MN, and particularly those posters like wwifn who go out of their way to post long and thoughtful replies, saved me from a complete breakdown.

My only regret is that I didn't have the benefit of their advice and support years earlier. If I had (I'm thinking particularly of not brushing affairs under the carpet and desperately getting 'back to normal' as soon as possible) then I think my life would not have been such a mess.

It would be a tragedy if wwifn disappeared from this forum as a result of this attack. I wouldn't blame her if she did - it's been really horrible and I feel angry on her behalf. But I would feel desperately sorry for future posters who would miss out on her advice.

AnyFucker · 23/05/2011 10:37

since that was your final, final, final comment, SJ, perhaps we could bring this sorry thread to a close

easycomeeasygo · 23/05/2011 11:01

WWIFN has given lots of valuable advice on here, I've read some awful situations on here and her input IMO has been great.

BUT I dont think this thread was distasteful, sometimes it could it be a cry for help. As much as people need advice on their OHs having affairs/flings or whatever on the flip side there is others who deeply regret what they are doing, and maybe cant see a way out and just need some advice or someone to talk to, and because affairs are such a taboo subject maybe an internet forum is the best place to ask for it. I've never had an affair, i'm besotted with my DH, although my xH had many and glad he did because it's got me to where I am today. I can understand why some people do have affairs, but i dont see being 'bored and craving excitement' as a valid excuse IMO.

ShirleyKnot · 23/05/2011 11:07

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