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Divorce papers served - have I done the right thing?

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Wisedupwoman · 18/04/2011 17:46

Had to name change again to be on safe side.
Been posting on other thread - hope followers recognise this.

H gone five weeks ago after second affair in 4 years was discovered by me but not before he gave many, many clues and slip-shod attempts to keep it 'secret' from me. H wanted out and would have known my reaction to finding out hence i think he took this way to force my hand. Heartbroken as long, long relationship with both adult and teenage DC's involved.

Today the divorce papers went to court to be served. The therapist I'm seeing commented that this has been quite quick. This has set up train of thought which goes 'was this my fault, am I assuming too much here about what H really wants, is he such a monster........'

Need ongoing support about this please......

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Dozer · 04/05/2011 20:49

Hope it goes OK when she gets back. Whatever happens, try to get some sleep!

Dozer · 04/05/2011 20:52

If it makes you feel at all better about any stresses later on this eve with DD, this evening I have to clean out another bucket full of poo-ridden knickers (major toilet training issues with DD1, age 3). Bleugh.

AnyFucker · 04/05/2011 21:03

just caught up with all this thread, WUW

re. your dd and The Academy and your position as The Bad Guy, I have no further advice than that already given (faintly hears the "wot, AF has nothing to say for once ?" < ahem >)

your situation is very complex, and I am in awe of your continued strength at picking yourself up and keeping on going

it seems to me the bottom line is you just cannot afford it and neither can STBXH

she is no different to any other teenager who will use any selfish means to get what they want (no disrespect to your dd, I have one of this variety myself Smile )

incidentally, all this money STBEXH has been secretly squirreling away...where is it or should I say where has it gone?

AnyFucker · 04/05/2011 21:07

she is no different to any other teenager who will use any selfish means to get what they want (no disrespect to your dd, I have one of this variety myself )

sorry, I cut the paragraph after this I meant to leave in, which hopefully makes me sound a bit less of a bitch

what should have followed that is ...

you need to temper any decisions you make about her education with what is the best for her in the long term and not respond to short-term high emotions

but you know that Smile

ChippingIn · 04/05/2011 21:13

AF - just realised you have reverted to your proper name - it was a bit like thinking you can read a foreign language more fluently then 'realising' it's written in English. You'd have had to have done that for it to make any sense I guess.... anyway, lovely to see AnyFucker back instead of that Pete & Eggy!

AnyFucker · 04/05/2011 21:14

thanks, chips Smile

Wisedupwoman · 04/05/2011 22:10

Hello once again.

another glass of wine. Chipping i think Wanker is more apt, too.

she's back. i asked her if she had a nice meal and she said yes. i said oh good. she stomped upstairs, had a shower and is in her room. i have maintained a distance, she asked me where her phone charger is (!) and i replied (the eternal) i dont know, where you left it probably. i am pleasant.

i made sure i was watching tv when she came home, not in the study where you all live in case you don't know that!

Had enough of pooey knickers to last a lifetime, thanks Dozer, and that's only WSTBXH's.

Any well it's a mystery where all the money is going. since he is tens of thousands of pounds in debt i imagine he is supplementing his income by using the only accounts which had any money left. why else draw out the last remaining measly £10 when you earn a large sum of money and can 'easily' afford to pay your mortgage, and quite alot less than 15% of your income in maintenance ? sol's secretary will be ringing me tomorrow with an appt.

well everyone seems agreed on the 'DD is acting out her teenagery anger mixed in with the stuff about her parents'. it's so encouraging (in an awful way really) and i want you to know that if i were speaking with someone in my position i'd be saying the same.

sorry about the lapse into professional talk up there ^. i am back at work after all but it's no excuse really and it doesn't bleedin well help anyway.

In the time it took to post this i have drunk that glass, it's taking me longer to type cos i kep makig sili msta;es Grin

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Wisedupwoman · 04/05/2011 22:26

And I want to send a big, big virtual bottle of wine, chocolate something, bunch of flowers, hug, ANYTHING (kept having to retype that) to express the real sense of camaraderie i get from you all.

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ChippingIn · 04/05/2011 22:28

Oh well - no difficult discussion then! Silver lining and all that!!

Oh, I only get to live in your study!! You are in my lounge, bedroom, kitchen, spare room... I LOVE my laptop!! I just couldn't have a PC again!

silli msta;es... :)

ChippingIn · 04/05/2011 22:29

There's nothing like MN is there :) x

ChippingIn · 04/05/2011 22:31

Right - I am forcing myself to behave and shut the laptop down now (half hour after curfew - oops!) will be back early in the morning. I hope DD just sorts herself out and goes to bed - no big dramas tonight!

Sleep well!
x

Doha · 04/05/2011 22:31

I find you all lurking at the bottom of my garden-like the fairies, only seen by kindred spirits Grin

Wisedupwoman · 04/05/2011 22:33

Outwardly Chipping i am very much a forward thinkin an doing woman. inwardly i belong in jurassic park.

but, my new life in the 20th C may well involve a laptop! Grin

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Wisedupwoman · 04/05/2011 22:34

'Night Chipping

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Saffysmum · 05/05/2011 06:09

Morning WUM: Have just caught up with your latest news. You are doing well and are so resiliant.

I can only echo the teenage selfish stuff: my two girls are wonderful, and have been incredibly supportive of me, but they still have unreasonable demands. I can remember taking 16 yr old out with a firm budget in mind for her prom dress a couple of weeks ago. After looking (me) at clothes within her budget, with her ignoring/sneering at all my suggestions, she insisted we look at a designer shop, where she swooped on a Viv Westwood little dress (honestly they had a copy in Top Shop which she had earlier turned her nose up at for a tenth of the price), which was £700!! She then had the biggest strop and hissy fit imaginable in this posh boutique! She then sulked and stropped around all day, left me in town, and got the bus home, where she phoned all her friends to tell them about her tightwad mother. I got in later, and she had a good old rant again. So I told her to phone Childline! Honestly hun, the moral of my rather longwinded tale, is that they all do this - my friend teaches year 11, and she says that they all think the world revolves around them, and can only see things from their own perspective.

My girls are supporting me amazingly well at the moment, but there is still the other, normal teenage side to them. Your daughter is no different.

If I was you, for what it's worth, I would: step back a bit from daughter, don't justify your reasons. She knows about the money, she knows she can't go to the academy, because bottom line, it's too much money. The academy is to her what that daft dress was to my daughter. She can't have it - simples. Quietly reiterate your reasons why, without further explanation. The Chelsea trial thing you have suggested (Chelsea - yuk, btw!!) probably appeals, but she's aiming for the full prize. Don't suggest this again, leave it with her. When she realises the academy is not going to happen (and if you don't discuss this with her further, then she will realise this quickly), she will then think about the compromise.

Remember the Rugrats? They all have a bit of Angelica in them! Remember when she said to Chucky, "If you want a kitten, ask for a pony?" Your girl (and mine) needs to know the pony isn't on offer - so it's Top Shop for mine, and weekend compromise for yours!! Stick to your guns.

I hope you don't mind me saying this, but perhaps you are over-compensating to your daughter because you feel bad on her behalf about the break up?? Please don't. None of this is your doing. I feel I want to spoil my kids rotten at the moment, it's a natural thing.

H isn't signing/returning papers because he sounds a total control freak. Let the solicitors earn their money and sort that all out.

Take care X

ChippingIn · 05/05/2011 08:10

How odd. I posted earlier and it hasn't appeared??

You definitely need a laptop!

Just wanted to send you some strength to deal with all that DD today throws at you!
x

Wisedupwoman · 05/05/2011 09:59

Morning.

Saffysmum the last time i spent £700 on anything I needed oxygen afterwards. (could make exception for sexy new laptop but am a technophobe)

Yes I am compensating her and that's going to stop, has (all but) stopped in fact and I really don't mind you sharing your thinking, it's why I'm here, and tbh I've been missing out on this for a long time so bring it on!

Seeing sol tomorrow to think about next move.

Thanks, Chipping, will now leap over tall buildings in a single jump before intercepting large meteor and throwing it back into outer space. Grin

Sanding today?

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ChippingIn · 05/05/2011 10:16

Yes - you need to spend ££ on a sexy new laptop! Go and flirt with talk to sexy young lads people who know about them, you'll soon decide what you need... then buy what you want Grin

No - haven't done any sanding this morning. I looked after a friends wee girl yesterday as the wee one was too poorly to go to nursery and I'm having both of them for the afternoon as the wee one is too sick for nursery still and her brother is only doing a half day at school. I gave blood last night and my arm is a bit sore this morning so I'm just pottering around the house doing bits & pieces. Shall sand tomorrow morning though (I have a meeting in the afternoon).

You leap those buildings!!

ChippingIn · 05/05/2011 19:30

I hope the aliens haven't abducted Wisey... I'm getting worried! No contact all day :(

MigratingCoconuts · 05/05/2011 19:57

Or, if they have, they are good looking, sexy ones and she is having a right old time!!

ChippingIn · 05/05/2011 20:23

It would be just her luck... bet she's lured them with those new shoes!

Wisedupwoman · 05/05/2011 21:36

Evening Grin

Have had madly busy day.

Just been online browsing for prom dresses (still looking) of course DD has found one which costs mega bucks. nothing else will do (am having a Saffysmum experience).

anywaysup DD is going out with mate to look on saturday.

went to the local academy today. DD refused to join in the training session, made me stay with her, until the (very handsome) coach invited her to get stuck in. she said no, then i said well i'm off for a coffee if you're just gonna sit there. so i did. waited half an hour. went back. she's up and playing football with them. one of the girls said as soon as i left she got her trainers on and started playing. Wink.

the coach told her he knows they aren't her first choice but she shouldn't base it all on the football because it's mainly about getting to uni. i could've kissed him. so i've left the application form with her. playing it cool. being strong.

how're you all? enjoy the babysitting Chipping?

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MigratingCoconuts · 05/05/2011 21:44

one of the girls said as soon as i left she got her trainers on and started playing

That shouts proud teenager can't back down to me!!!!!

Good to hear from you and that those aliens haven't run off with you Wink

prettybird · 05/05/2011 21:48

Give your dd a maximum budget for when she goes looking with her friend- and make sure she knows it is a maximum . That way, she might just find something with her friend (make sure her friend knows what it is too!).

OK - she'll not look at anything that is less than the maximum find something that is at the maximum - but she might just find something.

But don't let her stretch the maximum - maybe even tell her that what you had planned to spend was "£maximum minus £25" (or whatever) but because you know that this dress is important to her, you will stretch the budget to "£maximum" but there is no way you can stretch to more because you are on a budget

Dozer · 05/05/2011 21:52

This prom stuff sounds like a right arse! Whatever happened to plain old school parties with topshop dresses bought from saturday job money?

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