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The Brave Babes Carry On Past The Easter Booze Offers.

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NotTheMessiahJustMouseface · 13/04/2011 14:34

Hello,

I'm Mouse, well, I am usually!

Welcome to the Brave Babes Bus. Smile

This is a journey of sobriety, started almost a year ago by the wonderful jesuswhatnext. So why not come aboard and find a seat. There's heaps of support on here whether you are sober, drinking or somewhere in the middle.

And, for those of you who want a bit of history, here are the Previous Threads

OP posts:
MissPerrier · 08/05/2011 17:48

JWN your DH rant had me in stitches. My own treasure swears he feels sick and dizzy in Homebase, and it is therefore best avoided at all costs. My response to our endless list of "must do" jobs is very mature, if he won't I bloody well won't, so nothing gets done!!Grin. Luci hope you don't mind if I say so, but you sound like you are really taking control, big hug coming your way, just keep on keeping on, it gets easier I promise Smile

jesuswhatnext · 08/05/2011 18:18

stomps in - we are going OUT for dinner! - stomps out! Grin

anyone want a dh?, going very bloody cheap, believe me!

(the neighbours must have had a field day today, listening to our 'little disagreements' Blush)

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 08/05/2011 18:20

Hello again Smile

washing all out, waiting for the sun tomorrow (my mum would think I am so slutty!).

Golly just a thought, I'm sure you know all this..but do the school know that your DD doesn't like it there? It's just that there are, or should be, practices in place that mean she could go in to school, when she feels able to, with someone, maybe a "buddy" to meet her, and then, go home, or, to a safe place of her choosing, when she starts to feel uncomfortable, or about to do something that may get her into trouble. She sounds like a sensible girl, from what you've just said, who would respond to being respected.

JWN I missed your post first time round Grin, would cleaning the sink in your Louboutins get something started?!!!! DIY wise, of course !!!

Mouseface · 08/05/2011 18:28

Golly - she gace you a hug. Awwww. She sounds so torn up inside. She's 14 yes? My DD is very similar in terms of school. I can't keep up with her wrt who is her friend or not any given minute of the day. Are you glad you told her about AA?

She sounds really sensible as thurso said. I think you need to let school know too that she's not 100% happy. They need to be aware so that can't stick a label on her! Sorry if you have already done so but they have a responsibility to her as well as you. Smile

thurso - so pleased that you came home to that. You have raised some wonderful young people there. You should be pleased just how they've turned out xx

jesuswhatnext · 08/05/2011 18:31

not today thurso! Grin i would have stuck the heel right up his.... Grin

btw golly, my friend has a dd who sounds sooo like yours - she struggled very much at school with friendships, disapline etc, she has absolutly blossomed since leaving - she has a job in salon, training at college etc (shit money but hey!) she just responds to being treated as an adult and is a pleasure to be with now!

jesuswhatnext · 08/05/2011 18:33

also golly, i know just how precious that hug was! Sad, a year ago i thought dd would hate me forever - we went shopping this week, was lovley!

have another (((((((((hug))))))))), you deserve one! Smile

GollyHolightly · 08/05/2011 18:56

Awww, thanks ladies Grin

To be honest, it's a long story with dd (yes, she's 14). There are mental health issues (camhs are involved) and she's actually on trial at this school having only started there in February. She refused point blank to go to her old school and eventually ended up being set up to be mugged by an older (male) pupil. If they decide she's not suitable for the new school we are out of options and she's only just hanging on by the skin of her teeth.

Anyway! we struggle on and hope for the best.

I am very glad I told her. I had to go into great lengths with her about why it wouldn't be a good idea to tell any of her friends. Not for my sake (I'm not ashamed) but it would only take one falling out (regular occurance because of the MH issues) with a person she has told for it to be all over the internet and be used against her. I hope she's heeded my advice - I told her she can talk to me about it any time she likes. We seem to be getting on a whole lot better lately Grin

lovecorrie · 08/05/2011 19:08

please tell me you all still like me !

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 08/05/2011 19:18

lovecorrie you daftie Smile, I like you, just for saying that Grin

dementedma · 08/05/2011 19:40

just checking in - haven't caught up with the thread and everyone's ishoos!
had a lovely evening with Annie, sat up until 3am just talking. Told her everything about DH and she was sound. unfortunately I don't do late nights so am like a frikkin zombie today and had to have a snooze this afternoon! I am OLD. it was SO nice to be out and be myself! I had one bottle of white wine and one bottle of soda over a period of 8 hours so it wasn't too bad.
Got to get back running tomorrow and it is going to HURT!

4c4good · 08/05/2011 19:42

Thanks ladies!

I am soooooo proud of myself. Had a lovely walk with my friend - but coming home, as I knew it would - that little voice started up. Good job had anticipated this and left my purse at home! Grin

Then drank a LARGE glass of orange squash ( must stock up on more soft drinks and nice water) and ate a comofrting bowl of spag bog. By then the urge had gone. Moved onto warm bath, cup of tea and rubbish on the telly.

Phew.

The best support I've found has been women for sobriety www.womenforsobrietyonline.com They don't have face to face meetings but they do online chats and message boards and they are fantastic.

I'll be going back!

Mouseface · 08/05/2011 19:50

Golly - I'm so glad that you are getting on much better with DD. It helps that she 'likes' you IYSWIM.

There is obviously a history with her MH, one that no-one here expects you to go into. In a nice way. Smile

I just hope that she can find her place in this life, in school and with some friends who actually care about her, for who she is. xx

Anyway, time for this little Mouse to go and be a mother and carer.

See you tomorrow Brave Babes xxxx

qo · 08/05/2011 20:29

good evening all babes!! Guess what I did today?........

I WENT OUT OF THE HOUSE!!!

I was dreading tomorrow so much, and dd was going to her aunties to pick something up and I just though fuck it, I'm going with her then its over and done with.
I got dressed and did my hair in kind of a trance cause I knew if I thought about it too much I'd just chicken out and let her go on her own. I was like a bleeding jellyfish walking down, and felt claustraphobic when I first got in there so sat outside, but after that it was fine and I stayed for tea. The walk home, although still a little stressful, was much easier.

I've been through worse than this and I'm still standing, I've got my strong head back on my shoulders - the alternative, although tempting and easier, would not be a life I'd enjoy living.

Luci, I really felt for you from your posts, I missed alcohol a little bit this weekend - it felt a bit odd not drinking and if somebody had offered to go and get me a bottle of wine I'm not too sure I would have been strong enough to resist.
I have to say, even though it's only been 2 weeks(today!!!) I have so much more peace of mind, I'm sleeping better,dd's definitely happier - I could go on and on, everything is better!! So why does a little part of me still want to drink? It's quite cruel in a way, and (for want of a better word) a chore.

Well dd's all packed for edinburgh tomorrow, we have to be up at 6 Shock so a nice early night is on the cards, I'm letting her in my bed tonight and we're going to snuggle with a film. SO much nicer than being so pissed I don't even know where she is, or so hungover I have no patience with her. I'm happy being me today!!

Night night all babes, I'm so happy to be a part of this thread xxx

qo · 08/05/2011 20:30

oooops, I was so excited that I've been out of the house I forgot to welcome 4c4!! Pleased to meet you, hope you enjoy your stay on the bus!!! x

thornrose · 08/05/2011 20:54

I'm back on the bus! I came on here a while ago and then bowed out in disgrace as I was drinking heavily. I'm on day 4 without a drink now.
I have had a terrible headache since this afternoon and also my hands are really itchy. I'm scared these are signs of withdrawal can anyone let me know?

bafanatheSober · 08/05/2011 20:59

Evening All

Well I have had a really good weekend, Fantastic meeting on Friday, which really helped me get my head in a good place.
Yesterday - a little retail therapy. Have suddenly discovered the joys of TK Maxx. Also went to the gym to see about joining, feel that maybe I should take some inspiration from Demented and Corrie, and start to get a little fitter!
Followed by supper and movies at a friend's house.
Today was Church, washing and cleaning, then I made a big pot of soup and Lemon Drizzle Cake. Not as good a baker as my DD, but it is pretty delicious.

Kids are home, and we are sitting on the coach watching No Ordinary Family.
Life is good!

JWN your rant about DH made me chuckle!
lovecorrie I would agree with the others - always easier to get a job when you are in one!
qo mwah mwah - doing so well!
4c4 nice to meet you, kinda scares me that you can do 5 years and then it all go wrong again, makes me feel kinda sad that I am really really going to have to be aware of this for the rest of my life, but can't project, because then I get totally freaked out!!!

Waves to mouse, luci, indie, venus and bbwanna

I have never really been more proud to be part of something than I am to be part of this bus. You are all fabbie

Lots of love
Bafana

jesuswhatnext · 08/05/2011 21:24

well, we are back!, calm is restored to the jwn household! Grin

nice to have you back rose! Smile - it does sound like a maybe you are having a small reaction - i think i would take a piriton for the itchy hands and go to bed!, you are proberbly exhausted! - sleep is always a good healer!

QO!! bloody well done you! Grin, you sound a different woman to the one we met 2 weeks ago!

im off to bed, im shattered and the sunday times is calling me, so night night ALL you wonderful babes!

see you in the morning!

L XXXXXXXXXX

venusandmars · 08/05/2011 21:45

hi all, lots going on here today. thurso so glad that your ds had a safe party - I can understand only too well the worry you would have been going through. Fortunately (?) at the time that dd2 had a party in my house I was not worried. But only because I knew nothing about it Shock. It got completely out of hand and she was so frightened by it knowing that she ws unable to control who was there or how they behaved. Very long story, but it includes a lamp getting knocked over and broken, falling on a book, smouldering, and bursting into flames. It could have been disaster, and you can only imagine how long she was grounded for. Incidentally she comes home from travelling in 2 weeks time - I can hardly wait.

qo WELL DONE on going out of the house. I can be a bit agarophpobic and I know that drinking made it worse, although I also know that I used to luxuriate in time at home with ony some booze for company. I well remember a weeks holiday that I had from work a few years ago (the dc were away). I went to the shops and bought booze and food for the week. And several soppy dvds. Complete binge until I vomited up a bottle of red wine and box of after-eight mints - yuk. So rather than follow that example, let us know what you've got planned while your dd is away, and come on here if you're looking for company or support.

golly my dd1 had some difficult years in her teens - didn't fit in, had mh issues. It's just so sad to see them struggling isn't it. My dd and I used to 'walk and talk'. We found a nice circular walk we could go on from the house, sometimes we'd chat, sometimes we'd do the whole thing in angry silence; sometimes we'd enjoy the summer weather, sometimes we'd put on wellies and deal with the rain. It just seemed like a good way of getting out, being alongside each other without any of the pressures that we felt in the house where I was 'invading her territory' or she was leaving the room and slamming the door if I looked at her the 'wrong' way. It did all get better, and she and I have a lovely relationship now Smile

Hello to everyone else. Good to see you here, keep on posting.

venusandmars · 08/05/2011 21:57

thornrose I do remember that the 3 - 5 days felt rough. I always assumed it was part of the detox process, we do poison our bodies a lot with all the alcohol and they take a bit of tlc to recover.

I know that some people warn about sudden withdrawal, which is why they recommend cutting down rather than going cold turkey. It would be wrong of me, or anyone else on here to advise you. Each of us can only speak of our own experiences. Yes, I felt really crap for a bit, but I never thought I would die, and I can tell you that I've had hangovers where I did think I would die (or maybe they just felt so bad that dying seemed like a better alternative). Not trying to be flippant, just saying that only you can judge what you need to do. If you're seriously worried about physical withdrawal from alcohol then call NHS 24 and talk to someone who can give you proper medical advice.

Otherwise, take plenty of fluids, and something sugary (your body will have become used to getting energy from alcohol), and look after yourself kindly. Don't try and do too much, no heroics to try and save the world. As JWN said, sleep is great for healing and recovering. Savour it, and luxuriate in the feeling of waking tomorrow with a sober head.

dementedma · 08/05/2011 21:58

qo bloody well done you. I am SO impressed the way you are coming through such a difficult time
Everyone else - am going to bed soon. Really really have to have a good, sober week this week. Please send me some vibes

thornrose · 08/05/2011 22:04

Thanks venus, I am feeling quite jittery and anxious but strangely not craving a drink! I just looked up alcohol withdrawal and I have none of the symptoms (except a headache) Blush

venusandmars · 08/05/2011 22:14

ma I've sent you a pm Smile

venusandmars · 08/05/2011 22:18

thornrose alcohol is a depressant, so if you're not taking it then your body can take a few days to adjust. But that slightly anxious feeling is also the same set of feelings that allow you to feel amazement when you see a huge sunset or to feel delight when you see early morning dew in the sunshine. It's all worth waking up for Grin

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 09/05/2011 07:46

Morning all,

I ache all over today, I didn't realise how much lugging of furniture, and shifting of beds, I'd done over the weekend!

qo I hope your DD got off ok, and that you felt ok about going out. You made such a wise decision to go out and "test the water" yesterday, so I bet you were fine. Have a lovely day today, keep busy!, that's what I do after one of them goes away!

Have a good day all Smile

Speak later xxxx

qo · 09/05/2011 09:50

thanks thurso she got off ok, better than the last residential she went on where she cried after she got on the bus!!
I was OK this morning, I met a friend literally as I came out of my garden path, so walked down with her and stuck with her in the playground till the bus had gone.

I'm going to miss dd so much, she's my little sidekick, my little pal - it feels odd already even though she'd usually be in school now anyway!!

thornrose how are you today? Hope you're feeling a wee bit better xx

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