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So, this is The Brave Babes Battle Bus.

All are welcome, regardless of your background, stage of sobriety, or anything else.

I'm Mouse and have been here since June 2010, and in control of my drinking since August 2nd 2010.

You will find unconditional support here. Always.

Whatever you feel about drinking (or not), we've been in your shoes. Some more than once.

So, come say hi, come grab a seat. There is always an open door and a warm welcome on this Bus.

Indie and the same back to you and blows kiss. Yaaay, we beat the demon!

It was so brilliant to wake up hangover free this morning, before when this happened I'd dive straight into the wine. Did it make things better Don't Think So!

Just about to do the route march down to the beach, all babes and Gerald welcome!

Morning ladies

Well done getting to day 8, it feels good to not be hungover on a saturday morning, isn't it?

Thurso, I completely understand the fear of going to AA, I've been there myself for years! but they couldn't have been nicer and obviously no-one is going to judge you because they're all there for the same reason.

MIFLAW - I'm not going to make any decisions about sponsors and steps just yet, although it was suggested to me last night that it was recommended (not compulsory).

I think I'm going to go to a much more local meeting tonight. It's a big one apparently and is literally five minutes from my house, I'm a bit concerned about seeing people there that I know, what's the etiquette in that situation? There was one bloke I thought looked very familiar last night (probably met him sometimes in a some pub somewhere and some point on some drunken night ).

Also, I'm going to namechange because I've now managed to connect the Golly name with the dolls that I hate, but I will let you know who I am when I've thought of something suitable

Morning all

Actually really quite shit and upset this morning, have tried an hour in the garden trying to pull myself out of this funk, but to no avail, so in drinking tea and mumsnetting.

Meeting last night was ok, someone new came in totally pissed and made an arse of themself, and it totally freaked me out, then another woman had a bit of a go at me about my FIL, now the thing is that I have got the vibe of her for weeks that she really doesn't like me very much, last week she had a go at me and another member before the meeting for having a bit of a laugh, she got all po faced about it.
The week before she SMS'd me about a book that I had picked up for a friend, and I had said that the other person would put the money in the next week, she then hadn't managed to get to the meeting, and I had forgotten, I just feel that I am constantly being told off by this particular lady, and feel really despondent about it, and that I cannot even get this right.

Didn't really sleep through worrying about it, which is kinda ridiculous, but am unreasonably upset and am actually crying while I write this, which is not like me.

Wise ones, please give me some perspective on this please

Hi Bafana, sorry you're feeling crap

I'm hardly in an experienced position here, but I would have imagined that pissed people showing up at AA meetings was bound to happen from time to time, the fact that they made an arse of themselves surely only reinforces one of the reasons that you go? (putting a positive spin on it)

As for the woman having a go at you - is there anyone else you could speak to about it? Oddly, last night I was warned that there were some 'very unwell' people at AA meetings, and to be a bit careful about who I hooked up with. Now, I'm not really sure what to make of that, only time will tell but I think I have a good radar when it comes to who is going to be good for me or not. Is she perhaps one of the 'unwell' people? Can you avoid her, is there anyone that could have a word with her? Do you feel strong enough to tell her how she's making you feel yourself?

Sorry, so many questions

I have a friend who is in AA, has been for several years and I know that he had some problems with certain individuals in the early days who wanted him to dump his family at important family times in order to go to meetings instead, he had to be pretty assertive with them to make it stop, especially as he had very small children at the time.

bafana!, she is a tit and a cow and an old bag and if you like ill come and sort the bitch out!

seriously, take and not take it to heart, we meet all sorts at these meetings and we are not always going to get on with everyone! - i have to ask though, in what way did she have a go about your FIL?, what right does she have to say anything about any other person to you?

its funny, i have met a woman in aa who i instantly disliked, i have come to realise that she is incredibly lonely and this comes out in a really arrogant way (not saying your lady is lonely, she might just be a cow! ) so i do try and tolerate her nasty remarks and selfcentredness a bit more than i would do for anyone else!

golly!, you are absloutly spot-on!, i have been in a couple of meetings where someone has been drunk - i thought 'there but for the grace of god' (and im not religious! ) it DID reinforce for me the reasons why i was there!

also, i too have met people in aa who treat it as some kind of family subsitute - i think we all look at aa in a different way - for me, its tool to keep me sober so that i can live a full, happy life with my family and friends!, its fantastic to know that it is there for me whenever i need it, but it is not ever going to take over my life, if i wanted something to that then i would still be drinking, iyswim?

oh! another thought! , i have not got a sponsor and so far, the only step i 'do' is the first one!

'i recognise that im powerless over alcohol and my life had become unmanagable' (or something very similar! )

i feel this is quite enough for now, i have been sober for nearly 10 months, but i was drunk for 20 years, so i treat it a bit like a diet, 'i didnt get fat over night so it might take me time to get thin', sort of thing, so one step at a time, one day at a time, slowly but surely, im staying sober and putting my life back in order!

bafana the unfortunate thing about AA (and here) is that it's stuffed full of alcoholics, and all of us have our own problems, our own ways of dealing with them and our own ways of denying and hiding them (sometimes by attacking other people).

re the drunk person, I have found that it really shakes me to see people who are in the same pissed state that either I have been in, or that I might have got into. I see people slurring, staggering and incapable and stinking of booze, and even then sometimes pretending that they've only had a couple, and I absoloutely cringe with shame recognising how I have behaved in the past. Being confronted with it like that shakes me out of my comfortable thoughts that 'I'm OK really, I'm a nice, sensible, middle aged, middle-class woman (and I maybe don't really have that much of a problem, I just used to like a few too many)' and slaps me in the face with the reality that I wasn't nice, I certainly wasn't sensible and I DO have a serious drink problem (if I drink).

The most important thing for you, is not to let either of those events from last night derail you from your sobriety or from getting the support of AA. It's bad enough when your own alcoholic behaviour threatens to putt you off course, but a tragedy when the behaviour of other alcoholics does it. What can you do to get rid of your anger and hurt> Write it all down in a big scrawl and then burn the piece of paper, lay on your bed and cry and pummel your pillows until it's all gone?

And remember today to look out for feeling Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired and take action against al of them to avoid feeling tempted. Then as soon as you can, get back to a meeting and restore you balance and equilibrium about how valuable AA is for you.

morning all. had a glass last night and SO wanted more it was scary! Bath at 8pm, bed at 8.30 and asleep at 9.
I was exhausted after a very long week and the TIRED trigger had been well and truly pulled!
Off to Asda to see how much food i can buy with as little money as possible, assuming I don't run out of petrol on the way there sigh

Have you been looking at my bum?

Hi Isinde might this be the moment to be honest(ish) with your inlaws? If you tell them you are on antbiotics it just means you have to think of another excuse for next time they come. Could you say somethiing along the lines of "I think I was drinking too much and it is so hard to get up in the night for the DT when I have had a couple(!) of glasses, so I have decided to have a break from drinking for a while". In my experience no one blinks an eye at this kind of explanation and it prevents the "just one won't hurt" kind of comment...
You are doing really well by the way!

Hey All

Well went back to bed, had a good cry, slept a little. Got really really angry (which I have taken out in a good positive way on the garden)

Onwards and ipwards, not letting a nasty stupid insensitive bitch derail all my good efforts.

Off to take the children out for lunch,
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YOu are fab fab fab ladies
Love you all
K
xx

Good for you bafana

Hi All

Just popping in to say hi. I've not been on here for an age due to lots of stuff but glad to say drinking is STILL under control.

Haven't managed to catch up on the threads though.

take care xxx

eek, my training podcast couch to 5K seems to have disappeared from my ipod, so I skipped to Week 2, not having completing week 1. BIG mistake!! Who knew 90 seconds of jogging could be that hard?? Yup - 90 frickin seconds!! Am I the most unfit person on the bus???

dementedma I'm taking MIFLAW's advice about dealing first with the thing that's most likely to kill me - so dealing with alcohol, and excercise - well that can come oh, maybe in about 10 years time .

Actually , if I did try to jog for anything near to 90 seconds, then that would be what would kill me first - probably no difficulty in stopping that habit though

demented - totally agree with venus running?? are you off the heid? Running would put me a grave far faster than alcohol right now .
Although stopping smoking does mean that I can now climb two flights of stairs without potentially going into cardiac arrest.

Day here has improved - went and bought myself shoes .
Ridiculously DD counted how many pairs I had the other day - 48, well it;s now 49! I think I need another pair just to make it a round 50.

Right, better start thinking about what I should cook for tea, although I really cannot be arsed!

right, just quick look in - am of out for dinner with friends tonight, need to look ok as they are all dhs mates and im a good ten years older than everyone else

bafana - shoes can cure anything! , you are still an amateur though! , i have a room known as the shoe emporium!

laters babes!

be good!

JWN I think the most important question is - are you a size 6/40

Then we can talk.

I got the most amazing wedges last week that I wore on Thursday, they are awesome, although they do make me 6 foot 3. I did feel like a million bucks in them though!

Ma I tried to do one of the "running for beginners" books last year, and at the end of two weeks, I was still on jog 1 minute, walk 1 minute, for five minutes, and even then I thought I was dying!.

Bafana next time you see that lady(?) stick your fingers in your ears and sing "La, la, can't hear you" .
Seriously if someone needs to have a go at you, especially, I would think in that situation, they have bigger problems than you. Pity her.. You have a life.

We've had a lovely day today, much nicer than the last few Saturdays. Dh told me this morning, that the Dr said (I waited outside in case he wanted to say anything about me) "Is everything ok at home?", and Dh replied that he didn't think we had ever been closer . And he really meant it.
I am obviously giving Bette Davis a run for her money in the acting stakes here!

Only trouble is, I think Dh is much more at ease because it's all out in the open, and we have had a great day, and I just know what that will mean when we go to bed . But, after days of being his "mummy", I'm just not in the zone. Sorry, too, too much information......

Anyway, good news, DC2 has had an offer from Edinburgh uni, Yaaay ...so far away. But offer lower than some others, 3 a's , all so far above my head, my maths stops at about year 5!
Can anyone recommend a hotel for a couple of nights in April, that is near the uni?, and any cheap flights info?

Right, I think that's about where I got to, when I lost the last post , always wanted to do that!
Love to all
xxxx