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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Into Spring - BOING!!

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Mouseface · 01/03/2011 22:26

Previous Thread

The One Before

And All Others Before That

So, this is The Brave Babes Battle Bus.

All are welcome, regardless of your background, stage of sobriety, or anything else. Smile

I'm Mouse and have been here since June 2010, and in control of my drinking since August 2nd 2010.

You will find unconditional support here. Always.

Whatever you feel about drinking (or not), we've been in your shoes. Some more than once.

So, come say hi, come grab a seat. There is always an open door and a warm welcome on this Bus.

OP posts:
MIFLAW · 08/03/2011 16:16

You will not be called upon to speak, no - they might invite newcomers or visitors to introduce themselves, but you don't have to if you don't want to. If you do want to, then "hello, I'm 3for" will be just fine and, if you went on to add what had brought you here and/or what you were expecting from the meeting, that would be ample. Or you can just stay silent. If it is one of the extremely rare meetings where they go round in a circle (I've only seen this in Scotland) feel free just to say "pass". If you do want to speak during the meeting, just wait for a lull, introduce yourself and say what you want to say, preferably in less than 5 minutes.

Opposite end of London, hey? If, by any chance, you're going to Whitechapel, Bethnal Green, Shoreditch or Hackney, say hi from Kentish Sean! It's not Homerton Hospital you're going to, is it?

A Where To Find is one of the things they should give you tonight. It is basically a list of all the meetings in an area; start times, addresses, contact numbers. In some areas, this is a double-sided sheet of A4; in London, it is a small, professionally-printed booklet, as there are over 600 meetings in Greater London.

venusandmars · 08/03/2011 19:46

Hope people are having a quiet and safe evening - 3for let us know how your meeting went.

Threesteps - understand where you're coming from tonight - making the decision is so much less tiring than the will I / won't I stuff. That's one of the things that I like about where I am at the moment - I wake up in the morning think 'today I will not be drinking' and that's kind of it. Of course that makes it sound all too easy (which it isn't) but it's less mentally draining all the false bargaining I used to do with myself where I'd wake up promising not to drink, then by 4pm I'd be saying, OK just one G&T while I cook (just the one - Hmm), then later, I'd be saying well I'll have a bottle of wine tonight and then I won't have any for the next 2 days......

Momentarynamechange · 08/03/2011 20:18

Hey venus, how are you?

You know it's just one of those days that thankfully don't happen too often! I had a good idea that I'd give in tonight and really didn't fancy the mental tussle and berating myself for not managing!

I am pissed off with myself for not going to doctor sooner though - this 'thing' on my face has been with me nearly a year, twit!

Sorry guys if I appear to post random stuff randomly. I forget sometimes that as I don't post a huge amount, you don't 'know' me all that well. Whereas I follow the thread and feel like I know you all well. Feeling doubly stupid now Blush

Momentarynamechange · 08/03/2011 20:22

Meant to add I TOTALLY identify with the bargaining stuff you said in your post. Some years back I was in a bad way with an eating disorder, and exactly the same bargaining went on with calories.

Now if I've managed to kick that, which in theory must be harder as you can't not eat, why the hell can't I sort this out lol?

Zanywany · 08/03/2011 20:27

Well guys day 2 and I have had a drink. I guess I kind of knew I would as I met a friend for a quick drink which is always wine. If I was at home on my own I think I would find it easier but there you go Hmm

Threesteps what have they said about the lump on your face, are you having it removed soon? If you are still lurking but not posting but drinking do you think you can stop, brush your teeth etc. Not easy I know

Back in a bit

Momentarynamechange · 08/03/2011 20:32

Hiya Zany,

Had a few glasses before I cooked dinner, but none since so that may be all for this evening, but maybe not!

GP has referred me to skin person and to boob person! I'm not actually that worried about the second as have had a lump checked out before and know the process, and it turned out to be fine Smile.

Skin thing I'm going to try not to worry about until I definitely know what it is. Just don't like idea of something being dug out of me, am a bit of a wuss squeamish!

Are you back home now? If you're home and not drinking more, that's great stuff...

dementedma · 08/03/2011 20:36

3steps - sorry to hear of your health issues.hope you get it all sorted out and that things are fine.
daisy - good for you for tackling the demon. Stay with us
I'm ok, nothing thrilling to report.

Momentarynamechange · 08/03/2011 20:41

thanks dementedma x

I'm sure it will be fine. It's been there for ages and if it was an aggressive face-eating nightmare, there'd be nothing left of me by now!! Just felt a bit sledgehammered today. People coming tomorrow to try and fix an age-old damp problem in house. Oh yes, and DP and I are splitting up (but that's been going on for a while) and it's all a bit [ggggnnnn]!

You've been doing great! Are you feeling the benefits? I know I did after a few weeks stopping Smile

rumred · 08/03/2011 20:45

evening all

feel like im making progress but will see. starting by saying to others im not drinking for lent, with the intention of completely quitting.

so much time on an evening when not tipsy. it takes some adjusting to

EllieorOllie · 08/03/2011 21:04

Evening all, and hi to Daisy and 3for.

I'm in double figures now, day 11 of abstinence. Not saying it in a competitive sobriety way, just that I feel quite proud to write it down! It helps the wobbles to stop Smile

3steps, sorry to hear you're having such a rough time, hope you get it all sorted out soon

Ma, those M&S shoes that I linked to are now 20 quid in the sale in my local store. They've got some lush wedges as well. Thought of you when I saw them (weird stalker emoticon)

It's been hard to resist the lure of the wine bottle for the last couple of days, and I think I've worked out one of my triggers. I'm desperately trying to knock it on the head with exercise (gym, running) and baths and doing The Drill. It's hard though. I'm used to drinking until I don't have to deal with emotional stuff. Now I kinda have to face it. Reading MIFLAW's posts keeps me on track though, I even go back and re-read when I feel the wine calling so that I can arm myself against temptation!

Hope everyone is enjoying a sober evening, or has at least gone off to brush their teeth Grin

xx

dementedma · 08/03/2011 21:04

rumred I agree with the long evenings. I drink when i am bored which is most evenings as we are too skint to go out and do anything. Every evening is spent sitting in.
On that note DH has just made it clear what his priorities are when it comes to choosing between the Arsenal/Barcelona game or being civil to DD2! Fucking idiot! Angry

venusandmars · 08/03/2011 21:14

Football - I hate it!

notevenamousie · 08/03/2011 21:52

Evening all.
Looks like a lovely busy day again on this bus. I'm sorry I am not a whole lot of use at the moment.

Ellie well done on 11 days - did you ever think you could do that?!

ma hang in there - you have sounded so good since you stopped, keep doing what you are doing, it is so obviously working.

3for I hope the meeting you went to was useful - I think you are great to do what you are doing. I was at a meeting tonight and it really helped me, the people there are where I can really be me - terrifying though it is.

I'm so glad to be home. I am not used to these 14 hour days, they do remind of the first few years after I qualified except there wasn't a small person and home responsibilities in the same way then. I found myself getting a bit self pitying and resentful about it tonight - but I think I managed to get it out at my meeting. Food, a quick catch up where possible, and sleep, if the caffeine load from today will let me. I don't know if I need to make a decision to change things, but I have learnt to just keep on doing the next right thing while I work it out. Social worker tomorrow, but my sponsor will be here, and he'll just have to put up with us making pancakes!!

Hope all I've not mentioned are ok.

Momentarynamechange · 08/03/2011 21:56

I hate football now too, Arsenal just been kicked out of Europe, the fitting end to a crappy day!!

Haven't had any more to drink since before cooking earlier and plan to keep it that way.

Thanks for all the well wishes x

Hope everyone has a lovely peaceful evening Smile
night all xx

p.s. Hope the meeting went well 3for. You sound a very together lady. I don't think I'm anywhere near as self-aware as you seem, and I've got 17 years on you Grin.

(Or should that be woman, Radio 4 listeners seemed in uproar recently that someone was referred to as a "lady" - I understood the reasons behind the sentiment, but just feel there are bigger battles to pick!).

venusandmars · 08/03/2011 23:01

Goodnight. Hope that mouse, and isindie, and any others with wakeful children, have a good sleep and a wonderful rest.

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notevenamousie · 09/03/2011 06:49

Indie Today's another day and it's the only one you've got. So dust yourself off, and do what you can with this day. A head full of AA and a tummy full of wine is an even worse place to be than just drinking, isn't it?

I'm so tired! But I am up and off to go to work and today should be a bit less long and a bit less stressful. I hope everyone has a good day - today I won't be drinking and I am in good company on this bus.

dementedma · 09/03/2011 08:39

indie - hope you are ok today and that DP sees it as what it was - a slip-up by someone who has been trying really hard and who will continue to try.
Just for today, Indie, lets you and me try and get back on track!

Momentarynamechange · 09/03/2011 09:11

Isinde I hope you're not beating yourself up x

You're in the process of changing patterns that have been with you for years and there are bound to be slip-ups. It doesn't mean you've failed and it doesn't undo all the fantastic stuff you've achieved up until now.

Hope you're okay this morning x

Chiclana · 09/03/2011 09:18

Hi All

I have been lurking for a while and have found some experiences similar to my own .I?d like to get on the bus please. Last night was my 3rd night without any alcohol, probably the longest stretch I?ve had in years. Mainly, through family and work scenarios' , heavy drinking has been viewed as the normal. I consider a bottle of wine in the evening to be normal and on my days off, this would normally become two bottles, despite knowing how bad I?d feel the next day, physically and emotionally ( get that huge depressive slump). I have missed work a couple of times over the past two years due to raging hangovers, but could never admit this to anyone and would justify it to myself as ?well, you needed a blow out?. The reality is, I?ve felt crap because then I have missed out on time with my son, as I?ve been in bed being ill with it. He?s 13 yrs old and I?m a single parent ( have been since he was a baby).

I?ve always worked, helped with caring for members of my family and participated in lots of after school activities for my son. Most people would think I?m very motivated and organised, but they don?t see inside my house which is basically a mess. I?ve just spent most of my time really, clock watching until I could get home and ?relax?, using wine as the weapon of choice. I used to think it ?numbed? me and helped me sleep. From reading this thread, I can see that it?s done the opposite, which may explain my tiredness at the moment. I also can see now, that it wasn?t really numbing me, as I?ve had far too many nights, sat myself drinking away, listening to you tube and crying over songs. Not a good look really.

I was out on Saturday for a very rare night out and we were all drinking a lot, around the pretext of having a meal. One woman sat bemoaning her love life, another how much she wanted to ?end it all? and the other left after an argument with her husband. I felt this weird detachment as in..?what are we all doing?? All women in our 40?s and I can?t say that any of us actually had a good time that evening. I had the hangover from hell on the Sunday and as the day progressed kept thinking to myself, that this can?t go on. My father was an alcoholic and it killed him. I know the damage that it does to families and I?m here basically doing the same to my son.

I don?t know whether I?m cutting down at the moment to ?normalise? my drinking or stopping all together. I?m still in the culture where heavy drinking is very normal, so I suspect I?ll never be able to achieve that. Stopping completely looks like my only realistic option. At the moment, I?m concentrating on this day by day and am being aware of ?triggers? as many here have pointed out. I?m tired this morning, but not hung over, which is a ?first? again on a day off. Last night I would normally have had a bottle and a bit more since I was going onto days off. I?ve got up at the same time as my son and seen him out the door to school and haven?t gone back to bed to recover. I have a few ?action points? to do today to keep me motivated and to achieve something with my time ( also to keep me busy!).

I hope that everyone else is ok and look forward to being on the bus with you all.

Chiclana · 09/03/2011 09:51

IsinDe, I hope that you are ok today.

MIFLAW · 09/03/2011 10:03

Zany

"I guess I kind of knew I would as I met a friend for a quick drink which is always wine."

If you know you will, then you will.

you need to make 100% sure you know you won't. If you're not 100% sure, cancel the meeting.

Stopping drinking is very simple once you go about it the right way. But it's not witchcraft. The only person in control of your elbow is you.

MIFLAW · 09/03/2011 10:09

3for

How was the meeting? Was it what you expected? Was it okay?

Just being nosey now - WAS it Homerton hospital? I have very fond memories of that meeting.

jesuswhatnext · 09/03/2011 10:12

morning babes - just a quick one, am at work.

CHIC - lovely to meet you!, you sound a bit down love!, i promise it does get easier - keep doing what you are doing, take it a day at a time!, dont over think it, dont think about 'forever', just today! Smile

see you later!

Tristmum · 09/03/2011 10:16

Indie hope you're ok this morning - ditto what the others have said above.

Hello chiclana and the other new people.

I'm feeling twitchy today as it's the beginning of Lent. For as many years as I can rememember I've always been going to give up alcohol for Lent. I'll let you guess how often that's worked Hmm

The longer I go on with this, the more I feel like I kind of want to go to AA. I honestly can't decide if I'm kidding myself that I do have a problem, or if I'm being a drama queen and blowing a foible out of all proportion (mixed metaphor or what?!) I have a bad propensity for being a "joiner", and part of me is very wary of giving myself a label as an excuse. Does that even make sense?

3for - I drank abnormally as a student, as a young professional, in a stressful job... I convinced myself that it was work which was exacerbating it, and guess what - when I gave up, I still drank. I'm not saying that's the case for you (or anyone else), and obviously from what you've said, things are easier when you're not under pressure, but from my personal experience, it has brought home to me that I will always find reasons to have a drink.

On a lighter note, ma, Asda are fab for cheap shoes.

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