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Hello from a child-free girl...

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goldilockz · 16/02/2011 00:20

Hi everyone,

I hope you don't mind me becoming a member of your forums, I must admit I'm rather nervous to be doing so and hope you'll have the patience to read my post through to the end. Briefly, I'm a 26 year old from Scotland who has no children and doesn't want any children (please don't let this put you off!) This was never an issue for me until my long-term boyfriend and I started discussing having children last year. He thinks he wants children while I have never experienced the elusive maternal urge or ticking of the biological clock. While I initially thought that adopting would be a reasonable compromise, I soon came to my senses and realised that a person should not be a compromise and that someone who doesn't want children shouldn't have them when her only reason for doing so would be to maintain her relationship. I discussed this with a few friends, some of whome knew where I was coming from, others who were a bit less accepting of the fact I'm unlikely to change my mind, saying that I've been given a womb for a reason, that my clock will start ticking etc. While I acknowledge that this is a possibility, I know that it's highly unlikely.

My reason for posting is that, since that 'chat' with my boyfriend which obviously caused us both a lot of distress as, lets face it, disagreeing about having children is a deal-breaker, I have become more and more aware of my 'child-free' status and ever more aware of the divisions between women who don't have or want children and women that do. This, admittedly, is something that concerns me. I don't like the idea of going through life judging other people because their decision differs from mine, nor do I want to be defensive and, while I have found websites such as thechildfreelife.com to be helpful, I also think they make one identify more with a child-free persona and being child-free is only a small part of who I am. My reasons for joining this forum is to integrate myself more with people who are not child-free, hopefully make a few friends and perhaps learn something from one another. I don't want to go through life being defensive about not having children or feel I have to justify my choice. I don't want to be labelled as being 'child-free' or the like, but I have noticed that this is something I identify myself with more and more and this upsets me. OK, enough of my waffling. I hope what I've said has made some sense and that I've not offended anyone in the process, as that is completely the opposite of why I'm here. I'm shaking as I write this because I'm very aware of the disparity between women who have children and those who don't and am envisaging a backlash! I hope that doesn't happen and I'm looking forward to your replies.

Goldi xx

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LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:25

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Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:26

LTJ - my resolutely childfree friend loved DS - I don;t she could cope with him for extended periods and certinaly would rather cut her arm off than join us in a soft play area. But she is fond of him because he is funny and he loves her and he cuddles and kisses her and she obviously enjoys that. I do make sure we get to see each other without him too because our freindship is bigger (and longer) than DS.

I would find it hard to tolerate anyone calling DS "it", hell I'd find it hard to tolerate anyone calling my cat "it"!

Anniegetyourgun · 16/02/2011 12:26

The OP has a point there. I have four children and I'm quite illliterablish.

HeavenForfend · 16/02/2011 12:26

Sigh.

JK Rowling, Hillary Clinton, Paula Radcliffe, Karren Brady, Barbara Hepworth, Lesley Garrett, Judi Dench....

Bunch of underachievers Wink.

LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:26

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Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:28

Marie Curie

Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:30

can we include margaret thatcher? Wink

Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:33

infact Marie Curie daughter was also a mother and a nobel prize winner... thats some genes!

TobyLerone · 16/02/2011 12:33

I may be twisted, but I take these things far less seriously. My son and I call my daughter 'it' sometimes, because it's what he used to say when he was a baby. She thinks it's funny and refers to herself as such sometimes. It's a term of endearment to us. Her nickname is also 'Beast'. Shock, horror, I am a terrible mother.

I also find 'crotchfruit' hilarious. My [child-free] friend Josh calls my children 'fuck-trophies'. This amuses me an awful lot and is pretty accurate.

HeavenForfend · 16/02/2011 12:34

I'd like to see the CF hardcore go up to Baroness T and call her a mooba or whatever the word is...Grin

Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:39

crotchfruit and fuck-trophies not really relevant to me. And not how I speak so unlikely to use them.

Use whatever names you like, I wouldn;t find it heart warming for a freinds not to bother remembering my name or my DS's but obviously if they were using it in a lovely affectionate way its just fine. I sometimes call DS "Ghenghis" but he has started to object so I stopped.

ThePosieParker · 16/02/2011 12:40

that's a nice friend you have there Toby....although I'm not sure I can take anything you write seriously as your name is from Chris Moyales isn't it?

sungirltan · 16/02/2011 12:40

OP, is it coz u barren, like? ;-)

Kewcumber · 16/02/2011 12:42

at what age do they stop becoming fuck-trophies and start becoming people? Do they not mind - I would have cringed at my mum laughing with a her friends about me being called that.

LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:44

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ThePosieParker · 16/02/2011 12:45

I would think my mother needed some grown up friends, Toby.

TobyLerone · 16/02/2011 12:47

ThePosieParker (and several others), you may want to remove the sticks from your arses.

We get it. You have kids. You're proud of that. Fine. I am also proud of my children. But I am also so much more than that. I'm a photographer and a very good cook and a stylish dresser and a former county-level showjumper and an accountant and a reflexologist and a runner. I also have very good friends and a sense of humour.

Also, Kewcumber, I'm not sure about you, but I wouldn't tell a 10 year-old and an 11 year-old that my friend calls them 'fuck-trophies'. When they're a little older I will. Around about the time I buy them their first pack of Marlboros and some porn.

TobyLerone · 16/02/2011 12:50

Actually, my friend Josh is one of the most intelligent, most refined people I know. He has a PhD from an Oxbridge college and also lectures there. He just happens to be slightly irreverent in his sense of humour.

My God. You people are absolutely feeding the mombie-rage. I can see why the child-free people have that opinion. I'm done with this thread because I'd prefer not to start dropping myself to the level where I bring the childish personal attacks.

LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:52

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dontdillydally · 16/02/2011 12:53

me too Im not posting anymore me thinks there is some kind of sniggering going on from said poster.

LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:53

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TobyLerone · 16/02/2011 12:54

Fuck. I did not say anywhere that being a stylish dresser (not a self-definition, by the way) was an accomplishment. Learn words.

Wow. I am actually shaking my head.

Serendippy · 16/02/2011 12:56

ROFL at the question about why you would go on a forum to discuss the absence of something. I also don't have a cat, I also don't go on a cat-free forum to discuss how my life is different from that of a cat owner.

Maybe some of us mothers should go onto the child-free website to integrate with the community? Bet we would be welcomed with open arms Wink

Also agree strongly with the poster who said that most of the forum is noting or little to do with actual parenting (Friday night bumsex thread, anyone? That's why I'm here Grin)

LadyintheRadiator · 16/02/2011 12:59

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sungirltan · 16/02/2011 12:59

goodness me. can i add 'and i take myself vey seriously!' to my list of acomplishments??

pwease?

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