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Dumpling no more - only the strong survive and we did No.1

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Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 14:29

At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I could never live without him by my side;
But then I spent so many nights
Thinkin' how you did me wrong
And I grew strong Smile

This thread is for ex dumplings Any dumpling that feels like she has "mostly" moved past crisis into an "almost" sorted state can post and chat here as we continue our quest for serenity with a lot of laughs along the way and support.

OP posts:
Teaandcakeplease · 15/01/2011 08:02

Jealous of your shaped eyebrows and smooth legs Patience Envy Sounds like a perfect well deserved treat. Hope the kids are starting to improve today on the ABs.

Sov lovely to see you, can't believe your ex is turning to crime. He's a mess isn't he? You're doing so well, so nice to have you back x

"But he had said that she comes before his girls and he wants life to be like before he had kids...so I can't see him spending quality time with them. He has them all weekend but I'm sure they will be at his mums on Sunday" I can't get my head around your ex H Kate, it's such a crappy thing to say and think. Sunhill is right Bonkers...

OP posts:
Patienceobtainsallthings · 15/01/2011 08:06

Yes tea ,I got a voucher at Xmas so made the most of it,ok here goes with more yucky medecine,hope UR doin something nice today Kate x

offschoolagain · 15/01/2011 08:34

Saturday morning, up early as dd1 goes to school on a sat so have to take her to the bus.
So much on this thread in a couple of days! but especially hello to sunhill as I am new too; H dropped bombshell in May and left in July straight to OW's house (over 3 hrs from me and two dds); and hello to cloudedview who wrote something about 3 pages ago which resonated with me; and hello to gettingeasier who always says a nice hello to me.
I also have an envelope in the kitchen I am avoiding opening, separation agreement I believe.
Oh i know what it was clouded view, it was about dcs meeting ow for first time. It was absolutely awful for me. He insisted and insisted at Oct half term, they spent a day together at a neutral place as her house inaccessible for my dd2 who is in a wheelchair. Actually I did the following: I wore black for a week beforehand; I kept a v low profile with my friends; on the day I got up extremely early and left before H and the girls were awake so I would not have to see them leave; I was out in the evening when they returned. Also I had a very very expensive facial. Hah! And it passed. Now i really do think about it a lot less but isn't it odd what the Hs do when they meet this love of their life? For example, he went through my address book for the addresses of his yes his family and for the first time EVER sent a Christmas card to his sister. He had to ask me her kids names.

Working hard today and going to a tutorial for my OU course. should be interesting.

gettingeasier · 15/01/2011 09:10

Morning everyone

offschool I gave a wry smile at another of us with an envelope we dont want to open ! Saying that I like my envelope and a lot of effort has been put into it! What course are you doing ?

Sov lovely to have you back and that you are in such great shape

Kate I hope you have something nice to do today , no matter how feisty you are feeling I think maybe today is going to have difficult moments knowing your dc are with her. Glad he has agreed to pay without a fuss lets hope the money materialises.

Patience glad you are looking gorgeous Wink. If you fancy this guy just ask him if he fancies you a drink or something - lifes short !!Hope you all feel better soon

Well I had a very old friend over last night who is an ow. When she first told me she was thinking of getting involved over 6 months ago she got a real flaming from me and amongst other things I said she wouldnt be welcome in my home if she broke up his family. Now I am in such a different place I was able to be more impartial, just as well as she has been seeing him for months. Its the same tired old story hes been unhappy for years, him and his wife dont have sex its an empty marriage blah blah blah. He has 3 young dc and claims that his wife knows all about my friend. He wants to leave but has no money so is pressuring my friend to have him move into her place. Its very odd to be listening to a friend of over 20 years coming out with all of this when I know what I know.

Anyway I told her I bet his wife doesnt know, I bet they still have sex and a load of other stuff. I told her about MN and how its awash with good people who have had bombs dropped on them etc etc and how she should get out of it before she is tarnished even further by him.

Waves to Tea DCS Mumfun LC Googoo City Happy Starting Pink and any other lovely dumplings

KateonMN · 15/01/2011 09:17

Morning getting I'm in work in a bit - and may be spending the evening at my friends house. So I'm putting it out of my mind.

Got a really interesting day - I'm organising a Battle of the Bands and maybe another gig - just the type of thing I like to get my teeth into so should keep me busy!

DCSsunhill · 15/01/2011 10:22

Morning all.

Nice to meet you, offschoolagain. I like your coping mechanisms...it's always to get ideas from other people how to get through certain situations.

As I didn't have any say in when my DC met the new GF, I had to listen to such gems as "DS1 and GF have a special bond, you know" less than a week after GF moved into my life (or rather, onto my husband). Bleurghh. I am a Master or the Wry Smile and the phrase "Oh really..." can be said in soooo many ways Smile

His best gem so far was "You're always grumpy when you drop the children off, could you please smile more".

I would LOVE to have an envelope arrive at my house although my solicitor is far to shite to anything as productive as write to me.

Well, busy day of swimming lessons and gymnastics ahead. Might stick my head into Jamie Oliver later and cook a curry.

Hope all of you have a strong and lovely weekend.

offschoolagain · 15/01/2011 10:33

Getting easier, I am doing Reading Classical Latin. Because I don't have enough else to do. Ho ho.
Sunhill I too am doing a J Oliver curry later but I am afraid the easy one where you take a jar of Patak's tikka paste ...
Gettingeasier, my H told me that of course I knew all about him and OW. Of course I didn't. Isn't it amazing how they all tell such similar stories and it must be double odd to hear your friend tell the other end of it. Empty marriage. Hmm. Marriage is about a lot more than sex, particularly after three children. Took a friend to point that out to me when I felt that it was basically all my fault as I did not still idolise my DH after 20 years. Now a question for anyone who is reading this, actually 2 questions ...

  1. when did you take off your wedding ring, and 2) what would you do with jewellery , not valuable but nice, H had given you during time when you later find out he had been having affair?
DCSsunhill · 15/01/2011 10:37

Offschoolagain...that's the one! I have half a jar of the madras and half of tikka in the fridge. Hmmm...which one?

I took off my wedding ring about a month after H left and moved in with GF. I didn't want a poignant moment about it and so simply threw it in my jewellery box on the spur of the moment as I was walking past.

Hopefully someone else will answer your gifted jewellery present as I never, ever got so much as a smile out of H.

thereturnofElsieTanner · 15/01/2011 10:54

Good morning everyone.
Hope you all remember me.

KateonMN · 15/01/2011 10:56

I took off my ring - not expensive (don't do jewellary) when he told me on day two of our holiday that he 'didn't feel the same'

He had not admittted to the OW at this point but I suspected and asked him.

I smashed up the ring and chucked it down a cattle grid.

When I told him...he said he got it out and kept "as a reminder of how much he had hurt me"

Pity he didn't keep his little pecker where it should be.

Right - at work so will be back later ladies

offschoolagain · 15/01/2011 11:20

Sunhill, H used to like jewellery/choosing it etc. But after I found out about affair I kept thinking , had she chosen it too? Had he also got one the same for her? Irrational but very angry making. I don't want to wear the damn stuff as feel it was not given with love or honesty. I agree about the not wanting a poignant moment! Use the madras; spicier.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 15/01/2011 12:16

Hi Elsie, good to see you back

Patienceobtainsallthings · 15/01/2011 12:52

I just find if I feel a bit down atm ,something fucking stupid re X is about to emerge.
His idea re bills atm is ignore them.just feel I will be end of the q for payment.fuck fuck fuck

cloudedview · 15/01/2011 16:34

hi all

I don't get to come on here and post as often as I'd like but love reading everyone's posts.
I have been at a CODA meeting this morning and it is THE perfect recipe for enabling me to detach, stand firm, speak my mind and be aware of the 'dance' that me and H do when we are together (certainly not one with nice glittery dresses that's for sure) . So I went round to his to pick DS up after the meeting and managed to look him in the eye, tell him that I think the way we are communicating right now is not working for me (errr he ignores most of what I say in my emails unless it is self serving) and stated a few points that I was not happy with. Oooh I am starting to feel powerful and 'stand up for myself-ish' not sure why it has taken so long but it feels good. Funny thing is - as other have said it actually works too. The letting him control every conversation and giving him the power is a hard habit to break but even little steps are making me feel differently . When the serenity prayer is said at the end of the meeting the first line always resonates with me so much (God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change) and I repeat it to myself quite often in the week and it really helps when I am going crazy, thinking too much about what a twat he is and most of all getting ANGRY. Angry

offschool On the topic of jewellery - I took both rings off the night H walked out and yes mine too have sat in my room since. I had considered getting them valued but then my sister said I might want to hand then down to my DD one day - hmm feels like handing her a poisoned chalice a bit though. Other nice jewellery that was bought when he was being dishonest ? Actually I would wear it if I liked it - don't want to cut nose of to spite face if I loved it as that would be saying goodbye to something that I liked wearing. I would just not wear it with any meaning attached to it and would not wear it when you are going to see him.....but everyone probably has their own feelings on that one.

Getting - reading your post I'm not sure I have detached as much as you - I don't think I could sit there with a good friend who was an OW and be impartial - I think I would be quite openly disappointed with her - even though yes I know its the H's who are doing the lion's share of the unforgivable behaviour, lying etc the OW is still flying in the face of sisterhood. I mean I know if it wasn't her it would be someone else but they are still shagging a married man and encouraging the break up of a family aren't they ? Well I guess you would probably agree but are just feeling more detached and serene than me.- Judging by your last few posts you are doing amazingly well on that front

DCS - Loving the 'you're always so grumpy' comment - he is charming - 'yes darling - you're right - I should do whatever I can to make you feel better about your unforgivable behaviour - and actually I have nothing to be grumpy about - you are so right' etc etc Hmm Angry

Patience - hello love - good self care - I so know what you mean about the spikey aura thing - I find the same too - I have met some lovely lovely people and had conversations that I would have never had before. I think when you are happily (?) married you can give off quite closed vibes - in an 'I've got my life and it's sorted thanks - very busy byeee' kind of way and I think since H left you see the world differently and people come into your life at a time when you need it. It's amazing. Another thing to be grateful for Wink

Hi Sov - Have not been in touch much as am quite new to this thread but you posted a lovely message to me when i first joined so lovely to see you back

Kate: Hope this weekend is ok - even if he pulls out all the stops this weekend I am sure this level of enthusiasm for activities can't last! Well done on just getting stuck in to other stuff.

Hello to everyone else. Tea, Happy, GGM, Starting and all others. have a lovely weekend and keep strong and beautiful in the face of adversity

Patienceobtainsallthings · 15/01/2011 17:21

Bought the women that love to much book cv.
Also noticed today how people that are happily married and knew u both as a couple can reel out the ,well I'm only hearing it from one side attitude.my rage within has surfaced again ,totally skint ,sick kids,don't know if he is taking the kids tomorrow ,don't know if he has money for them ,in awe of anyone that has a conversation with their x.oh and found X has more debt.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 15/01/2011 18:02

Getting .....just to say re bloke until I find out if a bloke is single I would never ask them out.
This weekend the rage and injustice of these guys just dumping their families is back with a vengeance.just hate my kids having to struggle because of their dick head father ,so not really there yet for dating,but I will get there.

thereturnofElsieTanner · 15/01/2011 19:16

Patience - You really do have my sympathy. My X has got some serious debt to the point that he could be made bankrupt and I am extremely anxious to sever all financial ties with him before that happens. He can go under but he's not taking me with him. It just makes me more determined to do my best for dc's. They will see me as the strong, capable one and for that alone, the struggle is worth it.
My other prediction is that X will get picked up for drink driving, sooner or later. Every time he comes to the house he has to ask to use the loo even though he knows he's not welcome here and I think, yeah I know where you've just come from. Prat.

KateonMN · 15/01/2011 20:53

Well, they didn't go to a play area - they went to OW's gf's house and watched a film on her 3D Tv and she got them presents and sweets and ......guess what?

littlest one told me on the phone..."she's having a sleepover"

Yes, she is sleeping in MY bed, eating at my table and playing happy families with my girls.

What a knobhead.

Obviously, I just told my little one how wonderful that sounds....

wondering how lovely it's going to be when the girls are up at 7.30am, screaming at eachother...and he has to handle it showing what a perfect dad he is.

I am at my friends - we both have our laptops out and are chattting to men

Peace and serenity :)

WherecanIhide · 15/01/2011 21:03

Bloody cheek of it.

DCSsunhill · 15/01/2011 21:14

Patience, I know exactly how you feel. Exactly. This time last week I felt as though my stomach was being eaten away with worry...about the injustice of the situation, about XH's lovely new life with GF, money worries. He had also been drink driving.

I telephoned him on Monday and pretty much vented my spleen at him. This is the fourth time we are now trying to be amicable, but I am under no illusion that he will fuck it up for the fourth time.

Every day this week the DC have been saying "Two more sleeps til Dad's...one more sleep til Dad's" as if he is Father Sodding Christmas.

Kate, I am marvelling at your serenity. And please share how you are talking to men on your laptop...

KateonMN · 15/01/2011 21:26

Hey sunhill big user of Twitter - so I'm on that...and I'll be on Plenty of Fish later...just to take my mind off it :)

Patienceobtainsallthings · 15/01/2011 21:51

Thankyou ladies,i am so nearly there,but just realising there is a good chance X won't be working in the future .fuck fuck fuck.
Maybe this is the bottom of his slippery slope but he still manages to slide farther down still.
Aargh.
Ds taking gross medicine ,total superstar.
looking less drippy.more crusty.

Sending strength to everyone having to deal with ongoing head fuckery from fuckwit X s

thereturnofElsieTanner · 15/01/2011 22:06

Smile crusty is a much better look than drippy...

Kate, you are a better woman than me. OW will never set eyes on my ds. I have made absolutely sure of that. I simply could not deal with it. You are amazing.

thereturnofElsieTanner · 15/01/2011 22:08

Sunhill, my X drink drives. Let's hope they bump into each other Grin.

ChairmumSupermum · 15/01/2011 22:11

Ooo I've just found this thread - I haven't been on the recently ditched one because I felt I'd sort of moved past that stage, but this might work better for me!

Will try to catch up on the thread later!

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