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HUSBAND LEFT AFTER AN AFFAIR II - AM MOVING ON WITHOUT HIM

930 replies

solost · 19/12/2010 19:11

My husband left me in mid-August when I found out he was having an affair. My original thread (husband had an affair and I want him back) detailed the fact that I felt he had made a mistake and asked for advice on how to get him to see sense and come back to me and our 3 DCs. Four months on, he still hasn't returned and I am re-buildling my life without him. That thread is now full. This is the continuation. Thanks to all of you for your support.

OP posts:
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:22

there is no logical reason for him to have such an OTT reaction to telling just before xmas as opposed to ?just after xmas

he is buying time

why ? I dunno

things are unravelling with BB ? Not your problem

he wants to keep you on the backburner ? only if you let him

he knows you will take him back so telling the children will kybosh that ? only you know that (I have my suspicions in that regard, tbh)

ask yourself honestly if you want him back...the answer to that may just rell all of us why you are alowing yourself to wobble on his most important of steps forward in getting on with your life without him as your husband

msboogie · 21/12/2010 23:23

You don't owe anything to anyone except yourself and your children. You don't have to do anything except what you believe is the right thing. Stay calm and strong, solost. although in your shoes I so would ring BB and tell her he is now her problem to deal with and ask if she could please stop him from bothering you and the kids.

emmyloulou · 21/12/2010 23:24

Yep he has sowed those seeds alright.

You can tell them, just not now as it dosent suit me.

So predictable. You go along with it despite your dd having panic attacks.

So you choose this path their mental health suffers for both of your benefits.

Your children will judge you long after this is over, it's the way things go.

I think sympathy will evaporate fast if you choose the charade over your childrens mental well being.

It's so wrong. You still want him back and you are hoping this manipulation is a wobble. That hope will allow you to continue to lie to your children despite them having their own mental issues through not knowing :(

LittleMissHoHoHoFit · 21/12/2010 23:25

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, LET HIM HAVE THE DC UNSUPERVISED.

If he IS mentally ill, you are saving them from danger.

If he isn't, you are bluffing him and will force him to drop the MH act.

KangarooCaught · 21/12/2010 23:25

Posted what seems a very long time ago about Christmas being the time when dh would feel the pressure of what he's done. It will be him, BB and 4 walls - whilst you will be with the dcs, your parents, the ILs. Nose to the window looking in - about time he felt the ramifications for once, rather than you and the dcs. Sorry if that is callous but we can all see that he has fucked up but isn't man enough to admit it. But it's all about HIM. You've been grieving, it's now impacting upon the dcs and it's still all me, me, me and his self inflicted distress, when it should be about your children, the innocents in all this.

Put your and the dcs' needs first, they can only really rely on you.

kettlecrisps · 21/12/2010 23:26

Hi Solo sorry he is putting you through yet more.

I'm interested to note that you've only really seen this angry side to him now that you're standing up to him/doing something he doesn't approve of/not doting on every word he says.

Was it the sort of marriage you would regularly feel comfortable standing up to him? Or would you possibly adapt your behaviour to blend in with what would be expected?

It just strikes me that you say you were aware he had a temper but would never have directed it at you or the children.

I'm just wondering whether you may have been putting up with more than you realise? People can be controlled in all sorts of ways. He has certainly been controlling you for a good number of months now and still attempting to do so even though he's with the love of his life. Was he maybe more controlling throughout the marriage than you have ever realised (you may not be aware of this for a long, long time yet though I'm afraid) as I feel you have a lot of waking up to do.

I agree with everyone that you simply cannot make your children endure this any longer and they have to know. They will be feeling it's all their fault - we all know kids take on the guilt unless it's explained to them properly.

perfumeditsawonderfullife · 21/12/2010 23:26

The thread says you are moving on without him, but are you? The kids aren't, they don't know if it's New York or New Year. I can only think you are still hoping he will come to his senses and come home.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:28

come on solost...it is imperative you are honest with yourself

Lizzabadger · 21/12/2010 23:28

I think you are seeing his narcissistic rage because things aren't going his way. So sorry you are going through this.

KangarooCaught · 21/12/2010 23:32

Given his recent behaviour why not unilaterally decide re Boxing Day that if the dcs are still to see him, it's at the ILs. If he's behaving erratically they will be the cushion between him and them, and can phone you to come and get them if need be.

But tell them you ought to otherwise they may find his behaviour and the atmosphere alarming. However, the dcs may not wish to see him on BD and that is their prerogative.

KangarooCaught · 21/12/2010 23:33

Agree Lizza, re the narcissistic rage.

kettlecrisps · 21/12/2010 23:34

Yes, I think what AF says to you really needs addressing, Solo.

I think you might discover that this man is a whole lot more controlling all round than you ever realised. He doesn't like you making decisions he doesn't approve of.

Please think on as AF you do need to question yourself also.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:35

where is wwifn when we need her ? Xmas Smile

kettlecrisps · 21/12/2010 23:36

Sorry : That is Solo think on NOT AF think on.

thelittlestkiwi · 21/12/2010 23:37

Solost - you have done an amazing job of coping with everything this man has thrown at you.

I think you should tell the kids tomorrow- and with your PIL around - as this will send a strong signal to them that they still have a family, and that you are not the one 'to blame'.

I think he is panicking as he realises that there is no way back once the kids know. But realistically, even if he left BB he cannot come home now. And the kids still need to know why things are different.

Good luck.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:40

But realistically, even if he left BB he cannot come home now.

he could, actually, it wouldn't be the first time a woman takes a man back after being treated so appallingly

but whether it is a good idea is a different matter

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:41

the way things stand, boh solost and The Twat are aware that the door is still well and truly open

solost needs to figure out honestly whether to continue colluding with that, or not

emmyloulou · 21/12/2010 23:42

I think deep down here, solo wants him back and is willing to sacrifice her childrens wellbeing by lying to keep this alive.

If you are so scared of him solo and all these other excuses why as per your last post are you even contemplating letting him still have dc's boxing day. It dosent make sense.

Unless you know it's an act ofc. Not sure wouldn't come into it for me.

Sorry solo saying as I see it ATM.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:42

both

sorry, my t key is sticking like fuck

solost · 21/12/2010 23:43

PERFUMED: Exactly, either he is losing his mind or he is making me think he is - which in my book is worse. Surely you have to be mentally ill to want to pursuade someone you are mentally ill?? if you see what I mean?

He thinks once they are told they won't want to see him again. Their image of 'perfect daddy' who they all adore will be smashed to pieces (which it will be) and I really don't think he can cope.

He told me I should have let him tell them months ago - and maybe he was right BUT at that time I was not capable of being strong enough for them - I didnt know what to do, who does in that situation. I was a mess, I did what I thought was right for them - he worked away a lot anyway we just told them his new job meant he wouldnt be sleeping here anymore but he would be back to see them as often as he could and he would phone them all the time - which has has, until now. I thought he would see sense and come back - I thought it would be easier for him as well as them if they never knew the truth.

I never asked for any of this - I wish I could re-wind the last year of my life and do a lot of things differently really I do. And now everything seems to be coming to a head.

There are so many questions and situations that are going to arise over the next few days and I NEVER wanted my kids to have to deal with all this, I would do anything to protect them from this - maybe thats been part of the problem? Sorry am rambling.

NONAMES: He fully expects them to reject him completely when we/I tell them. He is preparing to be knocked of his pedestal.

HAVETOWEARHEELS: Thanks for sharing you experience. It is heartening to know that kids DO get through this although I really wish they could have had two parents who loved them.

ANYFUCKER: I am worried about them, I know how it appears. But what if I tell them - call his bluff and he really does disappear or even worse do something stupid (to himself)?. I know it is the right thing to do. Am trying to be strong. Thanks for you support x

KATEONMN: Thanks, you're right. But up til now things have kind of settled over the last few weeks and he has been there for them. He does always ring at pre-arranged times and never lets them down and always texts late to check they are OK. He hasn't tonight though?

DOHA: I don't know? There are so many question, I am going to sort this out as I go I guess. But please don't think I will put him before the DC's - I never have or will. This has always been about them - I may have made mistakes along the way - maybe I should have told them straight away the whole truth but I genuinely thought he would return and I thought they would be spared the truth. I know this is not going to happen now. I really dont want him back.

YOUNGBLOWFISH/PERFUMED: Will definately ask PILs for support - this must be so hard for them too. But like someone said earlier, H's 'mental state' is not my responsibility anymore. Thats why I rang PIL this evening. H is supposed to be going round there tommorrow at some point to give them Xmas pressies etc. not sure whether he will show up or not. Not my responsibility anymore.

EMYLOULOU: I do see how this appears. I am really trying to do the right thing. I know they come first, they always have and always will.

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dontdisstheteens · 21/12/2010 23:45

Solo. I think you believe he is a mess. I think you may be right you may take him back (others have done so too Grin). Kids first tho. Dont let him care for them alone. It is time to assert your boundaries here. Xx

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2010 23:50

I will back off (for now)

Try to get a decent night's sleep, solost, and do what you think is right wihout falling into the old patterns of your marriage that involved taking all your cues from him

you are the one in control here, remember that

LittleMissHoHoHoFit · 21/12/2010 23:51

ANYFUCKER: I am worried about them, I know how it appears. But what if I tell them - call his bluff and he really does disappear or even worse do something stupid (to himself)?. I know it is the right thing to do. Am trying to be strong. Thanks for you support x IT'S HIS CHOICE, THIS IS THEIR LIVES HE IS SCREWING WITH, HE IS TRYING TO SCREW YOUR LIFE UP TOO. ENOUGH!

KATEONMN: Thanks, you're right. But up til now things have kind of settled over the last few weeks and he has been there for them. He does always ring at pre-arranged times and never lets them down and always texts late to check they are OK. He hasn't tonight though? HAVE YOU HEARD OF MAKE-UP SEX?

Stop finding excuses for him, stop letting him off the hook.

Call his bluff and cut off contact until he gets the help he needs. Use his fuckwittery against him.

KateonMN · 21/12/2010 23:53

You were right not to tell them straight away, especially if you thought that after he's had his 'fun' you would be back together - and I know that feeling well.

That's not your fault - it's not a fault to not want to put your children through pain. That's actual proper love.

I think that they will still want to see him - they might act up and ask him awkward questions. But he's their dad and kids forgive a lot.

sending good vibes xxxx

RRocks · 21/12/2010 23:57

Solo,

I think that you should encourage the PIL to get him to a doctor.

And I agree that he shouldn't have the children while he is like this.

RRocks

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