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HUSBAND LEFT AFTER AN AFFAIR II - AM MOVING ON WITHOUT HIM

930 replies

solost · 19/12/2010 19:11

My husband left me in mid-August when I found out he was having an affair. My original thread (husband had an affair and I want him back) detailed the fact that I felt he had made a mistake and asked for advice on how to get him to see sense and come back to me and our 3 DCs. Four months on, he still hasn't returned and I am re-buildling my life without him. That thread is now full. This is the continuation. Thanks to all of you for your support.

OP posts:
solost · 30/12/2010 23:08

HAVETOWEARHEELS: Thanks for sharing your story. I am so glad everything worked out for you Smile. I have been with H for a total for 27!!!! years (please don't try to work out my age!). And it feels like a LIFETIME - don't think I have ever 'dated', never slept with anyone but H and have 3 kids in tow! Seriously who's gonna want to take me on? Won't hold my breath for Mr Right!

LIFEMOVESON: Had to laugh at your post! Especially the bit about the clothes! H is a bit like that too - he is sporting the most ridiculous haircut atm - asked the DC's whether they liked it and was mightly put out when they all said NO! What is it with these middle-aged men trying to re-capture their youth?

Can't even blame BB for it! She's a Per Una @ M&S girl apparently - H once (a long time ago - before I get flamed) asked if their stuff was 'trendy' - my 8 year old (going on 16) put him straight!

Think I am reaching that rock-bottom place you mentioned - I did get antidepressants from the doc but never took them. Am beginning to realise that H is a total dick - that the person I knew and loved doesnt exist anymore and I do feel kind of sad about that.

But I think we will be OK, not sure about the future, though it is heartening to hear things are working out for you. x

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AnyFucker · 30/12/2010 23:09

the dc will get used to doing whatever you think is right

they trust you

solost · 30/12/2010 23:12

AF: Thanks for that. I really hope so.

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AnyFucker · 30/12/2010 23:14

I know so

solost · 30/12/2010 23:15

By the way - have just eaten a whole POUCH of peanut M&Ms replying to you lot!!

This is not doing my newly acquired size 8 figure any good at all!!!!! Smile

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AnyFucker · 30/12/2010 23:19

brain food Grin

solost · 30/12/2010 23:20

Think am gonna be sick! Envy

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HaveToWearHeels · 30/12/2010 23:21

solost my basic maths works out you are a couple of years older than me and believe me there are men out their willing to take on a caring mum with three kids.
DP's friend was in a shitting relationship with a girl and had been for 8 years, basically they were living seperate lives under the same roof (but thats another story), wasn't until he met a single mum with two kids that he realised how unhappy he was.
He is now a different person and boy does he love those kids, just a shame he can't have any of his own as she is too old, but he is so grateful for what he found.

Get on with your life with your kids, embrase your freedom and who knows what life will bring you !

AnyFucker · 30/12/2010 23:22

< holds solo's hair back >

emmyloulou · 30/12/2010 23:30

Don't puke this way Grin

HappyDaysAreHereAgain · 30/12/2010 23:39

And what do you mean 'who's going to want me'!! You turn that round right now young lady! How many men are there out there that you are going to want?? You need to start thinking positively, looking at you and your new life in a better light, have more faith in yourself, look forward to the future, not knowing what or who is around the corner is rather exciting you know Wink And even if you choose to remain single for the rest of your life, that will be far better than settling for BB's cast off!

AnyFucker · 30/12/2010 23:43

...you look gawjuss puking up half digested M+M's

who wouldn't be entranced with such loveliness ?

thumbplumpuddingwitch · 30/12/2010 23:58

oh gak, peanut M&Ms? you deserve whatever happens to you in the night after that!!

I believe strongly that the DC will thank you for setting regular times for your H to visit. It will take the uncertainty out of their lives. Look at how they settled down once they knew why their father wasn't at the house any more - uncertainty gone = more settled DC.
Discuss it with them - see how often they honestly want to see their DF, and if it is more than you can stand (or than he can commit to) then negotiate a compromise with them. Then TELL H what you expect from him and make him decide the regular days he will visit. Tell him he is to use the door bell, not the key. I would ask him for his keys back as he is no longer a resident of the house, tbh - but he might not give them to you.

No way are you the villain, nor will your DC see you that way while you are apparently being reasonable. You aren't limiting their time with him, you are creating a schedule so that they know when they will be seeing him and they can plan other stuff around that, knowing that he won't suddenly "pop in" while they're round at a friend's house so that they miss him. Structure is very important to children, especially at the ages yours are.

As far as counselling goes - only if you feel you need it. I thought I didn't for the first year and a half - but when my first short relationship broke up after a few months, I was plunged into an amazing level of bleakness, anger and despair - and realised that there were still some hidden ishoos that I hadn't dealt with. Had a brief set of sessions with the Occ Health counsellor (who was fab!) but didn't go for the full counselling until after another relationship, the most abusive of any I've been in (nothing like as bad as some people on here, I hasten to add, but I was Shock that I was taken in by it).
I think family counselling might be beneficial, especially if your DD1 still seems closed off after a couple of months - just gives her (and the others) the chance to offload to someone completely neutral. See how you all go - but keep it in mind.

I love the emergency dash to the supermarket when you found out that H was coming over! I have done that a couple of times too. How do you say to your DS that it woudl be better if he didn't ask H to do stuff - hmm.
How about: "DS, Daddy has other responsibilities now. He can't always come when we need something fixed, so we need to find other ways of dealing with things - other people to help us. Next time, if Mummy can't fix it, we'll ring Grandpa (or whatever you call FIL) because he will be more likely to be able to come and help whenever we need him to"
No blame - no feeling that he did the wrong thing, and joint responsibility for calling someone in - think it just about covers the bases!

Go and drink something bitter (like lemon juice) to stop the pukey feeling. :)

ScaredOfCows · 31/12/2010 08:54

Solo - your rollercoaster is still rollercoastering but you're doing great.

I can completely understand why you want to maintain contact for your children and him in your home - actually, it is probably for the best anyway as at least you know that it is just him seeing them, not him and her.

I wonder if you could do other stuff to make your home less like the home it was when he lived there - maybe decorate, move furniture around, put stuff in different cupboards and drawers? Just stuff to disorientate him and send back the message that it is yours and the childrens place and not his.

LifeMovesOn · 31/12/2010 09:26

Solo, hope the peanuts didn't make too big a reappearance!

SoC's idea of changing the house around is spot on - but in your case you will obviously need to involve the children. This was actually one of the first things I did - redecorated 'my' bedroom, completely changed all the bedding first though - this made it really feel 'safe' and it was my sanctuary (of all the rooms in the house this was the one that didn't phase me, bizarre really given it's the bedroom).

My friend came up one day and we moved the lounge around; the next day we moved the dining room around . . . little things (I always buy a picture or ornament from wherever in the world we visited) of 'ours' were packed away (still up in the loft now).

I had strict instructions from the Twunt that he wanted 'half of everything' in the house (did offer to take his chainsaw to the TVs, dishwasher etc Grin) so that's exactly what he got - now he wants to return some of the wedding crockery and crystal so it's "kept together". Like I said to him - why on earth would I want something to remind me of wedding vows that he broke (tosser).

Think about what changes you can make in yours and the DCs home now - because that's what it is - yours.

Have a good day, the rollercoaster doesn't stop, you just learn to ride it better, honestly.

I'll be thinking of you and all the other people that have had a rough year tonight. I am going to have a great evening - on my ownsome, with a nice bottle of bubbly, chocolates and a couple of chick flicks. My choice, my friends can't understand why I've not accepted any invites.

I don't want to 'celebrate' a new year - never been interested in doing that to be honest - it's just another day. Just want next year to start because I am seriously banking on it being a damn sight better than this one. 2nd Jan is my 'anniversary' of the twunt being found out again, so once that date is passed I really feel I am moving on.

Oh yes - bring it on!

perfectstorm · 31/12/2010 11:17

I was thinking about this (the villain thing). Someone earlier rather wisely said that the kids might need to realise that you find this hard too, without being scared by any thought that you can't cope. If you gently explain that Daddy popping in whenever throws you, that you like the idea of predictability and reliability, so you want to set up a schedule so you all know where you stand while you adjust to the new situation, might that not kill two birds with one stone? You could also say that you want them to have the security of a fixed schedule so they know when they are going to see him. If you talk it through with them first then he can't play them over it later.

You can mention their having mobiles so they can talk to Daddy any time they like, too - and then you can ask Daddy to call them directly and not you, and he can't twist that to them, either.

The main thing IMO is to tell them an age appropriate version of the truth so that they understand why the new boundaries are being set up. You have a right to a home without Daddy making you feel very sad by coming in when you least expect it, and they have a right to know when they will see him on a regular basis.

I'm still in awe. If I were in your shoes I'd be a wreck - and a wholly undignified one. You are such an amazing person.

perfectstorm · 31/12/2010 11:22

Also want to agree with thumbwitch that a schedule is massively, massively in their interests. In fact structure is known to be essential in helping kids through trauma - Andre Handscombe, Rachel Nickell's partner, said that the psychologists who helped him with his little boy (who'd witnessed her murder) said that he was told it was the single most important element; that kids can handle almost anything if they have a known, predictable routinised structure in place. Chaos/unpredictablity is what is most damaging. And that very truthful point is one you can use to your ex when he whines, too - a predictable, more defined situation is in THEIR best interests, as well as your own.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 31/12/2010 12:35

Solost yes I do think that the phone calls to the DCs are all about his needs, not theirs. I also think you should intervene on their behalf and stop an activity that they don't want to do. As you say, most DCs of any age don't like the phone and I expect they have come to dread these calls. I think if he had to call them on their mobiles only, his calls would drop off.

WRT him seeing them in your house, I don't think this is about the DCs, because I heartily agree that in actuality, this situation is potentially more damaging and confusing for them, with their Dad popping in and out whenever it suits him. They will have friends who have more boundaried relationships with the non-resident parent and I think this is making it worse and giving them false hope.

I think in his small way, heartbreaking though it is, your DS thought he was being helpful (and hopeful) by summoning his Dad around to fix the television. He might even have been a bit cross that you went out, although obviously that was entirely the right thing to do.

From the DCs' point of view, I think they need to accept that he's not coming back and therefore a new regime must be put in place. I don't agree that him seeing them in the house is helping them at all.

I suspect you think it might be helping you Solost because you still want to see him and because it puts off the risk of him introducing them to the OW. But now that the DCs know about her, all you can do is ask that he doesn't do that, for a time.

If you really do want to detach from him and mean it, I think it might help if you examined your true motives for letting him come and go like this. I would absolutely understand it if you still wanted to see him, but let's acknowledge it and deal with it and then we can all tell you that this won't help you in the long run.

Whereas I feel we would be doing you a disservice if we continue to collude with you, that this is about the DCs' welfare.

HappyDaysAreHereAgain · 31/12/2010 13:08

What WWIFN said. Excellent post.

overweightnoverdrawn · 31/12/2010 13:57

god WWIFN is an online therapist . she is good listen to her .

StarExpat · 31/12/2010 14:12

Also - you said before that the kids ate always asking when they will see H next. This is because they don't know. They want predictability and structure. That is your kids asking you for structure of his time with them.

StarExpat · 31/12/2010 14:13

Are not ate Blush

dontdisstheteens · 31/12/2010 20:02

Take care Solo, this will be a happy new year. No more lies and loads of cuddles from your lovely children. x

StarExpat · 01/01/2011 00:24

Happy New Year, Solost :) x

perfectstorm · 01/01/2011 19:34

I hope 2011 is a wonderful year for you, Solost, and all the good things you so deserve come to you and your beautiful DCs.