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"But we took you to Statley Homes" Dysfunctional families thread

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MummieHunnie · 15/12/2010 13:15

Forerunning threads:
December 2007
March 2008
August 2008
February 2009
May 2009
January 2010
April 2010
August 2010

Please check later posts in this thread for links & quotes. The main thing is: "they did do it to you" - and you can recover.

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AgeingGrace · 14/02/2011 09:29

Hello, ddubs. Thanks for posting. I hope you don't mind, but I needed to put some breaks in your post to read it properly ...

Morning,i have lurked a bit on this thread but never posted,my mum died when i was 10 and my dad remrried 14 months later. My step mum never liked me and even before they married i was kicked out of home. From 11-16 i was moved about to anyone that would have me and foster care despite dad telling me he would leave her etc bt never did. I was a good girl and kept my mouth shut and did as i was told.

At 16 i got my own bedsit, at 17 met my oh and never looked back. Dad died when i was 19,after this i found out he stole £10,000 of money that was left to me by my nan. I have 4 ds`s and now they are older im angry, i could never put my kids through what i went through. I love my dad but im so angry he never stood up for me and looked after me, i was his child. After he died my step mum had nothing to do with us(have 2 brothers).

I have alays been the black sheep of the family,my family never bother with me. Most of the time i lived with my older brother but only because my dad paid him £50 a week to look after me. I did move in with my other brother but only for a week cos his gf(now ex wife)changed her mind and didnt want me there so caused a huge row with my dad(she did have a point and told him i should be at home with him)

AgeingGrace · 14/02/2011 09:37

... Those line breaks are a nuisance when you're posting from a phone Wink

Blimey, you hardly got a childhood at all by the sound of it! You're doing incredibly well to raise your own four with so little support (and such a rotten example) from your dad, stepmum and brothers.

You love your Dad but he failed you as a father quite badly, I'd say. Is that why you feel conflicted - because you loved him, but he wasn't able to love you as you deserved? It's really sad that you tried so hard to be good but they still kept your inheritance and kicked you out :(

SnowyBriar2 · 14/02/2011 13:06

Good afternoon everyone. Smile

I hope you slept Ok Mummie. x

FWIW I don't think you were particularly nasty in your confrontation with your Father - no more than I was anyway, 20 years ago during my first of many parental showdowns...if I didn't speak to them loudly, clear and without any tact at all...I might have well said nothing. I tried the considered adult conversations and they all went whoosh over their heads off to cloud cuckoo land.

The only way I have ever been heard is to behave like them and tantrum! Blush Sad but true.

Welcome to the thread ddubsgirl. Smile

SnowyBriar2 · 14/02/2011 13:07

Oh Good Grief...my whoosh was supposed to be whoosh!

MummieHunnie · 14/02/2011 13:37

ddubsgirl, your Dad let you down.

Mother called around, I can't even be bothered to be angry, she phoned and I said please leave me alone, I don't want you it is too late and put the phone down, (didn't know it was her), she kept saying I just want to talk to you. She was at the door for 15 minutes, I didn't answer.

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MummieHunnie · 14/02/2011 13:38

Snowy I did the teary tantrum previously trying to get through, I am beyond that now, I don't want them to have my energy/emotions anymore.

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SnowyBriar2 · 14/02/2011 13:50

I feel the same about mine Mummie. I haven't any emotions left for them it seems...they've all gone very 'meh' when people talk about them?!

It does feel very odd to have seemingly reached the place where they mean nothing more than your average stranger though.

I'm wondering if feeling that way is real or just a coping mechanism...only time will tell I suppose.

ddubsgirl · 14/02/2011 14:46

my mum was always ill,she had renal failure,i use to help alot with looking after her.

my step mum use to slag her off yet never knew her,it was her house so her rules,kid should be seen and not heard,she use to go through my stuff,i wasnt allowed friends round they got me a tv and she would have ago at me for having tv on at nighttime,she would go to bed at 9pm.

i would watch tv till about 10-11pm some nights and she would have a right go at me and tell me to use haedphones yet the tv had no socket for them but that was my fault!yet i didnt choose the tv,she & dad did!

she accused me of callihng her a old cow yet i never said a word,she was having a go at me for brushing my hair while i was getting ready for school!

while i was doing my gcse`s i wasnt allowed in the house till after 10pm so would have to find places to go and buy my own dinner,most nights i would sit on the beach.

MummieHunnie · 14/02/2011 18:50

Ddubsgirl, I was reading psychology magazine today, there was an article on sibling rivalary, which touched upon stepfamilies, I think I was fortunate as my stepfather did as was advised in the article, he was not full of selfishness, he did not interfer in the parent child bond/time that some stepparents seem to want to trample over to mark their tetitory, you do know that it was all about your stepmother and her issues now you are an adult don't you, that she should have had therapy rather than take her issues out on a fragile innnocent child, she sounds very toxic, just like your Dad, birds of a father and all...

I have tried to have a nice valentines day, despite Mother again coming over on a "special day" trying to make it all about her!

The last time I punished her by removing contact with the children as per the schedule I gave her at new year, she ignored my boundaries and called around on a "special day" to suit her needs, and make it all abou ther, and ruin it, so what do I do now, remove the next contact date on the schedule with the children? I don't want to be that person!

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ddubsgirl · 14/02/2011 19:37

yes i do get that mummie,it was her not me,i was a child who had lost her mother,i didnt want a new mum,i wanted the 1 i had back,mum died in the march dad met sm 2 months later,on my brothers 18th birthday(sept)they announed they were getting married,married in the may,i never greived i wasnt given time too.

i lost my mum,had to leave my home and then got kicked out of her home and had to live with an old neighbour and her son,i was just starting high school,pushed pillar to post and just had to get on with it,its been the last year i guess the anger has finally come to the surface.

SnowyBriar2 · 14/02/2011 19:51

Hi ddubsgirl

I'm not much use to you in the way of advice I'm afraid I don't have any experience of step relationships so wouldn't even want to hazard a guess at any advice in case I was way off the mark.

I am reading your posts though and IMO from what you have posted about your family, the way they treated you... none of this was/is your fault, you have done/did nothing at all to deserve any of it. Good or bad no-one deserves the hand you were dealt. x

Mummie...I am also of no use to you either tonight...me, DH and my kids come as a 'job lot' so to speak. If I am NC so are they, I don't have any experience of the type of contact issues you are trying to deal with.

I sort of feel that if I am willing to protect myself from my parents then it is also part of my job to protect my children too...that said my parents have never baby sat, had my DC's for tea or to stay so there isn't a relationship to call a stop to anyway. In 14 years I have never allowed them time alone with my kids....go my instincts eh...

findingthepath · 15/02/2011 20:49

Hi Everyone

I just wanted to say how quite and peaceful it is now i'm not in contact with my ex-family should have done it ages ago.

droves · 15/02/2011 21:34

Ftp peaceful is good .Smile.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/02/2011 10:51

Good article today in the Mail.

www.mailonsunday.co.uk/femail/article-1357417/Ive-divorced-parents-breaking-heart--She-blissfully-happy-childhood-So-40-writer-cut-mother-father.html

My sympathies are entirely with the writer of this article.

MummieHunnie · 16/02/2011 20:04

Attila, how sad that article is, what stuck out to me was the writer's body language, I suspect she was always needing their love by the way she clung on to them in the pictures when she was older.

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findingthepath · 16/02/2011 20:21

I have just ordered toxic pearents and Adult child:the secrates to dysfuncational families Hmm

MummieHunnie · 17/02/2011 22:44

I hope you have you book now FTP!

I have been posting on a thread about fat parents, and boy do threads like that really trigger stuff for me, that helps me to move on and see things that I had forgotten about.

I had a bit of a PING moment regarding my eating disorder.

I actually think that the overeating thing has something to do with my Father being My Mothers victim of abuse for being Fat, and when he left I took on his role! I need to think a bit more about this, it is quite shocking, when I look back I was quite annorexic as a child, I hated food!

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findingthepath · 18/02/2011 12:20

Help

I'm in the 3rd week of no contact with any of my family for the first time in my life.

The problem:
Nightmears.

I keep having nightmears about them hurting me. But its more than that i feel exsacly as i did as a child - so much hurt and anger. The nightmear i had last night was the worse.

I was in my nana's house and my mum was out in town and ask my eldest sister to go with her then my mum asked my other sister but she did not ask me and my sisters were horriable to me. But my son was there and i ignored him to shout and throw my sisters out of the house and i left my son in danger.
I was more concerened about the way i felt then the saftey of my son. Then i felt guilty that my son could have been hurt because of them. Then i felt guilty and thout it was all my fault and i deserved to be treated like that.

It was horrible Sad

i kind of feel like it PTSD Sad

Could this really be the case?

SnowyBriar2 · 18/02/2011 13:46

Hi ftp

I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at PTSD..all I can say is I had nightmares after going NC too...

Recently after NC with my parents...I was running away from people/zombies/screaming banshees etc through an old house and slamming huge great wooden doors behind me like there was no tommorow...then I kept finding secret tunnels to climb into to get away only to find there were more monsters at the end of the tunnels....so more running and door slamming...they never caught me though.

I also had a re-occurring dream about throwing my sister out of the house when I went NC with her over 3 years ago...problem was she kept getting back in via the doors and windows...come the second dream I was prepared and had dead bolts everywhere! Confused It worked though...she never got in!

I wouldn't be too worried about you shouting in front of your son in the dream....I think the dream was just your way of 'concreting' you NC stance to your subconscious.

Maybe you did defend your son from a bigger threat than just being left alone...your family??

thisishowifeel · 18/02/2011 13:54

Me too, if it helps. I have had loads of nightmares since going NC.

I still have them ocassionally. They have been very disturbing, the kind that give a "vibe" that stays all day. It's horrid.

Brenda said that it is a connection to the subconscious, working it all through. This ain't small stuff we deal with is it?

Dillinger · 18/02/2011 13:55

Hello, may I post here please? Its been a while since I was last here - I usually explain a bit on here, then feel as though Ive said things I shouldnt, then back off for months. I do appreciate the advice given though, very much so.

Im not sure anyone will recognise me and therefor not remember any of my previous posts, so briefly - crappy abusive childhood, very p.a mother, angry father, Ive got no self esteem, bullied for years etc. I left home at 19 almost 20 and moved 250miles away from my family. Im now almost 29.

Okay so ever since I left home its been me and dp (and then dc 1 and then 2) that have done the visiting. About a 4 hour trip on average. My dad has visited me once in the years Ive been away, my mum and a sibling of mine have visited before but either we paid for the travel, or dp drove down and picked them up and dropped them home a week later (yes really! I think he was trying his best to encourage more of a family thing with me and mine) anyway we arent well off - dont own our house, cant afford much etc but would save up to visit them, take my sibling on days out etc Nothing was ever returned - not that Id even have taken it but an offer would have been nice.

When I had ds (5) they wouldnt come to visit, we had to go to them and they are awful to stay with - dont help with anything, I was struggling one night to settle ds and my mum went mental, shouted at me through the wall etc When I was preg with dd the consultant was concerned there were problems and I was extremely anxious about the birth and who would have ds. I begged my mum to come and stay for a few days (she doesnt work etc) but she said she 'couldnt just drop everything' and didnt help me Sad. Thankfully dd was fine but again we made the trip down so they could meet her. (I can see Ive prob made my own bed here but I thought I was doing the right thing at the time.)

Im always edgy there, esp if they have been out for a drink cos that just takes me back. I carry a lot of anger and grief at what my life couldve been like if only things had been different when I was young. Maybe Id feel some kind of self worth.

Anyway over the years Ive been away Im feeling better within myself, more settled. I notice that after a visit to them I come home feeling drained and find it so difficult to function for a few days, if that makes sense. Though despite everything I still feel an awful sense of duty (though I know it is misplaced, wrong even) that I have to be the one that visits them. I cant get to sleep there, my mum gets all 'huffy' with me if I go to catch up with a friend (not that mum has to do anything as dp takes care of the children), even if I stay in its made quite clear that my being there is a pain.

I dont even know what Im trying to get at here, Im sorry if Im confusing but I havent been back to feeling like this for months and its strange.

We were meant to visit them tomorrow for a few days but Im just feeling so angry and upset - its always us that visits and Im fed up with it, its me that keeps communication going, its me that has to bloody sort things for them even though Im miles away - Im just so pissed off. I can see now that I havent made the situation any easier - maybe if I hadnt gone to them all the time then they would come to me, but I truly believe they wouldnt bother. I dont hear from them unless I phone - they dont call me.

I feel upset cos I miss my lovely grandad but dp comforts me by saying that hes a smart bloke and probably understands more than I give him credit for. My dad and I never got on at home and strangely I miss him the most.

I may sound like Im going on for nothing, knowing me Ive prob forgotten something important. Im just so confused as to whats the right thing to do.

I texted my mum earlier to say we prob wouldnt be visiting. She replied 'whys that?' So I replied 'for the same reasons you dont visit me - fuel cost, the drive, crowded!' (Ive asked her loads to come and visit, she always says 'I'll see what pennies I can sort' giving the impression of someone scrabbling about for coppers etc when I know they could sort it if they wanted, they just cant be bothered.) So she replied 'ok fair enough'. And thats it.

Its always been like this and Ive had enough but am I wrong for not going? If I sound like a bratty child I apologise and maybe there is something in me I need to look at. Whenever Ive tried talking to mum about things before Im always left in no doubt as to whose fault it is, always mine. She is NEVER wrong and funnily enough cannot remember any of the examples of her past behaviour towards me that I tell her of.

Really sorry for going on so much.

thisishowifeel · 18/02/2011 14:04

Hello Dillinger,

No you are not wrong, no you do not sound like a bratty child.

It's the FOG. Fear, Obligation, Guilt. There is a website, I can't remember the address, someonwe will post it I'm sure.

Your mind and body are telling you the truth, feeling drained is so common when dealing with these types.

Keep posting.

Dillinger · 18/02/2011 14:04

Dp sees the trip now as something we have to do if I want to catch up with old friends etc but I find it exhausting. We've nowhere else to stay near them and couldnt afford to pay to stay somewhere. Plus when we've been struggling a bit money-wise I mentally think of all the things we could pay for instead out of what we'd spend - a weeks shopping,
etc etc I know I'll end up buckling like I always do, but I hate what the situation does for me mentally when I get home again.

My younger sis is spoilt rotten whereas I had fuck all and obviously I see this when I visit. Though now being an adult Hmm I cant therefor ever say anything to anyone about how I feel.

I often wonder why my own family could so obviously dislike me so much Sad I always tried my best and did what I was told, it was never enough. I cry for that little girl who had no friends, no one to turn to and was bullied cos of how she had to dress. People used to steal from me and I wouldnt say a thing.

God sorry Ive really opened the floodgates today!

Dillinger · 18/02/2011 14:05

Thankyou thisishowifeel Smile

thisishowifeel · 18/02/2011 14:10

Sounds like you were one of the scapegoat gang....I'm in that gang too. My "mother" thinks that I am demonic, evil, my sister believes that I am willfully sadistic, she's the one with the conviction for arson, other sister thinks I have a persecution complex....she's the cokehead, whose boyfriend raped her 5 year old daughter.

But no I am the baddy, it's all my fault etc etc.

Actually, they are insanely dysfunctional and I have nothing to do with them at all any more.

The NHS has been my lifeline. I have had extensive therapy to help me deal with it all.

Maybe that would be something for you to look at?

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