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How do you feel about prostitution?

1002 replies

BillieH · 10/11/2010 13:01

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

OP posts:
ShirleyKnot · 11/11/2010 11:44

Haha SY - "Some will also say that those that resort to personal retorts have lost the debate"

What like:

?If your real life persona if anything like your online persona I guess it is you who wears the trousers and not the men in your life?

or

this

How about witches... only it is a toss up which one is AnyFucker and Knot Shirley.."

Let's not forget about your own questioning of me WRT to "wifely duties"

EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 11:47

"I wholly agree with whomever said that many posters on this thread hate women."

....and what may I ask, are you and your ilk showing toward the ladies such as myself who are posting on this thread if not hatred??

ShirleyKnot · 11/11/2010 11:51

EscortKarin.

I can see the hate going both ways actually.

Why was I called a witch last night? hmm?

Because I objected to SabrinaYork telling us to "look after your men"?

A line which she stands by clearly, as she doesn't appear to want to engage on this matter.

Feminism isn't a dirty word you know? It is ok to want to be on equal footing with men.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 11:58

I don't hate you Escort, you hate yourself. Your self esteem is tied up in how and who you fuck. I pity you. I pity your lack of value you place on yourself. I pity your, clear, lack of opportunities to earn good money in exchange for your skills outside of the bedroom, afterall most people could be a prostitute, there's nothing special about you. The only skill needed is to be able to separate your mind from your body, give me enough drugs, abuse and esteem knocking and I'm right with you. The punter that uses the 'high class' hooker (wow what an oxymoron)is more repulsive and deceitful than the curb crawling pervert, at least the curb crawler sees the real person in the mirror and doesn't hide behind cliches that you sell, like it's your choice.,

Escort, if I gave you £1 million today, are you still letting random strangers come over you tonight?

Mandamumu · 11/11/2010 12:03

For a post that starts with "I don't hate you", there sure was a lot of hate in there.

I do not and nor have I ever taken drugs.
I have never been abused.
My self esteem is just fine and has nothing to do with who or how I fuck.
I do not "separate my mind from my body".

You mentioned cliches? Your post is riddled with them.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:06

You didn't answer the question, if I gave you a million pounds are you still going to let a man purchase your orifice this evening?

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:08

Mandu...what made you turn to selling yourself for cash? Lack of education? Easy money? No virtues? Why do you surrender your power for the right price?

EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 12:09

Thank you so much for telling me what I think about myself and the lack of opportunities in my life....you yourself must be an exceptional, nay, I'd say gifted person, to have gleaned sooooo much about me from just one post.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:10

One more thing if you want to lie to yourself and accept that your son is not ashamed of you selling yourself then you are deluded.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:11

You sell yourself, what is there to glean?

TheOleDragon · 11/11/2010 12:13

I quoted your line... if his mother WAS a prostitute. 'getoveryourself' was a prostitute for 8 years... 8 whole years and now she is totally against them.

It was me who stated that my son is 18 years old and knows what I do for a living. I have always been an honest mummy. My son has the utmost respect for me and me for him. He is a well grounded boy, never been in trouble with the police and has passed an NVQ2 in Social Care Work. He has a very good job and the people at the day centre where he works all think highly of him.

I believe honesty is the best policy, I don't try to hide behind what I am and have been in the past. I don't take drugs, I train every day. I eat a healthy diet and I treat people how I to wish to be treated.

I have my next client coming in 4 minutes. A regular, another married man. That is 2 so far in my day in the space of 5 minutes.

Do I regard myself as a bad person? No
Do I regard them as cheating? Who am I to Judge anyone, but on a whole I would Yes.

EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 12:15

"Escort, if I gave you £1 million today, are you still letting random strangers come over you tonight?"

Thia really is a very stupid pointless question....yes, I would stop whoring; just as I would stop just about ANY job for that sum of money.

Ask the same question of the shelf stacker, the factory employee, the estate agent, the doctor, the self employed builder.....
pointless, pointless, pointless

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:17

No, you're wrong many people wouldn't give up their work. Aside from money some people really get something out of work besides a foul smell.

Your poor children, so embarrassing and shameful.

EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 12:18

"You sell yourself, what is there to glean?"

So do you define everyone else you encounter purely by their work title? By inferring I am one dimensional, you unfortunately expose yourself as being shallow.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:20

You sell yourself, that's not work that's submission for money.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 12:22

Shallow....lmao, you trade your body hardly the utmost sign of personal depth is it? No skill at all, nothing required.

Mandamumu · 11/11/2010 12:28

Posie, No I would not give up my work if I won £1,000,000.

You are so against what we do that you cannot imagine yourself doing it all the while you had other choices. Fair enough, but that does not mean that we think the same way.
I have other choices, I am educated. I choose to do this.

I do not "sell my orifices" and using emotive language like that just serves to make you look narrow minded and ignorant.
I do not submit to my clients.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 12:37

"I have my next client coming in 4 minutes. A regular, another married man. That is 2 so far in my day in the space of 5 minutes."

See, why even go there? Don't you see how this looks to NORMAl society? Still, if you are extra, extra good, you may get a lovely field report to put up on the wall and frame, hey? See, I get certificates through my work which I can proudly show off to my friends and family. Can you? Aside from the lovely one you might get to prove you are disease free, of course...

A lovely field report here: http://www.punternet.com/frs/fr_view.php?recnum=100877

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 12:38

Sorry about the link, but copy and paste that into your browser if you wish to see the type of delightful GENTLEMEN that pay for sex.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 12:40

In fact, take a look at the lot: www.punternet.com/frs/indexes/recent.html

See, some escorts actually aspire to getting one of these. You have to seriously ask yourself what the fuck is wrong with my life if this is the highlight of my job. Really.

EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 12:42

"You sell yourself, that's not work that's submission for money."

You're getting pretty desperate to condemn us....ALL work could be seen as submission. Millions of perople worldwide 'submit' whilst biting their tongues and suppressing their inner thoughts.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 12:46

"Millions of perople worldwide 'submit' whilst biting their tongues and suppressing their inner thoughts."

Now YOU are getting desperate. At least in other jobs you can speak out about bad conditions in a civil way with no fear of getting stalked/attacked/character assination on message boards.

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EscortKarin · 11/11/2010 12:53

"At least in other jobs you can speak out about bad conditions in a civil way with no fear of getting stalked/attacked/character assination on message boards.

I have no bad conditions to speak of....

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 12:58

Er - not me love, but nice try!! Ha ha.

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