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How do you feel about prostitution?

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BillieH · 10/11/2010 13:01

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

OP posts:
TheOleDragon · 11/11/2010 10:50

Getoveryourself... you was a whore, a prostitute, a Working Girl for 8 years not 8 minutes. However you dress it up that is what you was. I was a secretary, I'm not now, but I still have carried that title.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 10:50

GOYS are you speaking for all prostitutes here or just your own sorry little tale??
Please do not speak for myself or others when it is clear that you were in the business far too long and got jaded, you did the right thing for getting out.

As for your comments on being lazy then again you are speaking for yourself, you know many prostitutes are not career prostitutes and indeed have other jobs or run their own business.

There are many risks involved in our CHOSEN line of work, and that is why we are paid so well, I for one have never experienced ANY of those you have said, many jobs come with risks that is why they are paid a premium.

I think you misunderstand, of course a married man comes to us is cheating, I don't think any of us have ever said otherwise.

I have been in and out of the business for 10 years now, if I feel a little jaded I go off and do other things and come back refreshed. Am sorry that you clung onto it for so long and has embittered you, but please do not presume to speak on behalf of all prostitutes and the way they work, some may come out the business feeling like you and others will come out feeling they have gained something worth while from their experiences.

I am glad you got out the business and you claim you are happy and have a healthy life, prostitution is not for everyone and it appears it was not for you.

Best of luck

TheOtherWhiteMeat · 11/11/2010 10:51

It can be lollypop, if the person having the one night stands isn't happy about their behaviour for whatever reason.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 10:52

Posie - you are spot on.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 10:55

Thankyou Sabrina. I am a much better person now I don't have to fuck strangers for a living.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 10:56

Why men she doesn't like?

TheOtherWhiteMeat · 11/11/2010 10:56

lol

I guess all of those poor drug addled prostitutes who are getting paid 20 quid to give some sad cunt a blow job round the back of Asda, just so they can get their next fix would agree with you SY

"There are many risks involved in our CHOSEN line of work, and that is why we are paid so well, I for one have never experienced ANY of those you have said, many jobs come with risks that is why they are paid a premium."

What a load of old bollocks.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 10:56

TheOtherWhiteMeat Thu 11-Nov-10 10:46:38
Also, it's very interesting that none of the prostitutes on here have commented on lowrib's post about the vast majority of prostitutes lives being blighted by drugs and having to work on the streets.

What an inconvenient truth.
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That is because it is a convenient lie.

Massaged figures brandied about by the feminatzi anti prostitution brigade, there is the sad underbelly of this profession that much is the truth, these girls need help not pity, but that is a whole nother debate.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 10:58

Hey prostitutes if you won the lottery would you still fuck punters for cash, or do you enjoy it so much you'd give it away for free?

Because many a care worker (you know the people who love their job) many of them keep working.

anotherpointofview · 11/11/2010 10:58

Theoledragon, I dont think I need to read between the lines with Getoveryourlittleself's post, she was quite straight up with it. Re the son, the post I was referring to had told her son that she was a hooker and imo (having a son that age myself) I dont think it teaches them to have any respect for women or sex, and I cant even imagine what effect it would have on a teenage boy to know that his mother was doing that. Getoveryourself has stated quite clearly the negative impact of prostitution so I'm sure any children she may have will a) not be aware of her previous job and b) be brought up with more of a respect for themselves and a more healthy view on sex. I'm sure it took a lot of strength for her to come out of that world and be straight about the reasons she went into it and not hide behind excuses so yes I admire her for that, and again her post was an honest view of what the job is really like, not glossing it up in a way that could entice other girls into it.

TheOtherWhiteMeat · 11/11/2010 10:59

Oh no, you mentioned Nazi's - therefore you lose. Although to be honest I think you lost the moment you told all non-whores to look after their man, because otherwise they might decide to poke their cock at a stranger.

To say that the majority of prostitutes are happy, non drug addicted, jolly whores is bullshit and you know it, and i know it and anyone with half a working brain cell knows it.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 11:00

TOWM

As I have no working knowledge on the drug/street scene I cannot comment, only on personal experiences.

What I said was the TRUTH FOR ME.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 11:05

TOWM

Sorry I was not aware we were having a 'you win' 'you lose' kind of debate.

There are valid points to both sides of the story and as our worlds are so many miles apart, there is not much chance of us agreeing with much at all.

You have a media portrayed knowledge of the industry I have a working one.

*shrugs

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 11:09

Thankyou, ANother Point.

You just watch the bitter comments masquerading as being pleased I have left the industry from the escorts though. I have already been called 'Jaded' (Expected). Hmm, yeah well I wonder why that is? You'd have to be pretty hard faced to not get jaded when you have had a week full of overweight, women hating scum with zero social skills trying to reduce your prices or saying "I want my money's worth". Imagine how horrible that is after a while?

As for children, I don't have a son, but if I did then the thought of him growing up and handing over a wedge of cash to a cold hearted, woman hating hooker who is going to pretend to like him for an hour's transaction.. Well, it's not worth thinking about.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 11:14

Ah I apologise then if you were not jaded.

You went into the industry with the same mindset you came out with?

TheOtherWhiteMeat · 11/11/2010 11:15

duh, it's called Godwin's Law - it's the belief that the minute someone stoops to calling the person they are debating with a "nazi" that they automatically "lose the debate"

And all this "reasoned debate" that you are having this morning is a mile away from the spiteful bile (dressed up as "advice") you were spouting last night.

"Take care of your man Smile"

Silly cow.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 11:19

Sabrina - can you really, really put your hand on your heart and say without any doubt in your mind that you really love the job?

Pretend for a moment that the Grunternet brigade aren't watching this thread though.

Oh, that won't work now, will it.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 11/11/2010 11:21

Oh I am so delighted that another poster has identified that the posters purporting to be prostitutes are women-haters. That was transparently obvious to me at least, the moment TOD assumed that social benefits are paid for by "our husbands' hard-earned wages" Hmm and the constant references to women not "looking after their men".

I have no idea and don't much care whether these posters are really prostitutes, or whether they are male or female, but they certainly despise women. That absolutely transcends every post and I'm surprised their defenders can't see this, unless they are women-haters themselves....

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 11:21

TOWM - I read that this morning too and thought the same thing.

"Take care of your man" indeed!

Now THAT'S jaded, right there - jaded and cold hearted.

SabrinaYork · 11/11/2010 11:23

Some will also say that those that resort to personal retorts have lost the debate :)

I have never called anyone on here a nazi - I have said about the anti prostitution feminatzi brigade that massage figures on prostitution to suit their own agendas.

Saying take care of your man is spiteful yet some of the language and personal attacks on others on here is not?

Have you had a look at punternet where Billie/Lindilidia has been sat on for months? These 'dregs of society' as so called by mumsnetters have far far more decorum than what I have seen of some posters on here.

Anyway I must away, I am taking a day off from prostitution to work on my other business :)

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 11:25

They are prostitutes. Trust me, you can tell when you have been in the business awhile. The self deluding and blaming women for men's weaknesses gives that away every time.

Reading this and conversing with nice, normal women who have normal existences and beliefs is such a world away to escorting, let me tell you. Thing is, they all believe their own hype.

GetOverYourLittleSelf · 11/11/2010 11:27

"These 'dregs of society' as so called by mumsnetters have far far more decorum than what I have seen of some posters on here."

Now THAT'S really funny!

TheOtherWhiteMeat · 11/11/2010 11:32

lol

Why would I look at punternet for fucks sake?

Why don't you and your ilk just stay there instead of boring the shit out of us with the many happy tales of the joyous whores.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 11/11/2010 11:37

anti prostitution feminatzi brigade

Is that a euphemism for feminists? The people who support women? The people that can truly see exploitation when it appears?

I wholly agree with whomever said that many posters on this thread hate women.

Mandamumu · 11/11/2010 11:43

It was I who said that my son knows what I do. He has been brought up to see through the Madonna/Whore issues and to fight the male/female sexual inequalities. He will argue the point with other lads his age on the slut/stud issue and he was with his girlfriend for 7 months before they slept together.
I have taught him that sex in a relationship is precious. I have also taught him that any girl who bends over behind a nightclub and shags all comers is probably a girl with incredibly low self esteem.
The fact is that (rightly or wrongly) sex has always been a valid currency. If we're going to talk about ideals, then that should either be true for both genders or none at all, however, we don't live in an ideal world.
I've done this for 20 years now, I've never over worked and I've always been very careful when vetting my clients to avoid being in a room with someone whose personality disgusts me.
I don't judge the men who visit me. It's not my place to do that. They come to see me for a myriad of reasons and yes, some of them are married. Nothing about my advertising is 'in your face', they have to actually seek me out. They make their choice.
I do believe that that the married men who visit me are probably men who would cheat regardless. However, that's not an excuse, just a thought.
They make their marriage vows and it is up to nobody but them to keep them.

Do not judge me if you do not know me, as I will not not judge you. I'm not here to troll, just to provide my side of the story as it seems everyone wants to discuss us prossies when we are safely out of earshot and that just results in the myths about drugs and abuse being perpetuated. I think it's because some people can on;y handle the fact that we exist if they pigeon-hole us and pronounce us victims.

You don't have to like us or agree with us, but it would be great if you could accept that we exist.

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