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What do i do!!

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pinkhair · 14/10/2010 11:32

Hello there, i am having problems with my DH, he can be so nasty to me, he is always complaining that the housework doesn't get done and its always left to him (which it isn't) i have 2 jobs which means i am not always at home much but DH works shifts so if i ask him to help out he refuses and says thats right always leave it to me to do, at present i am awaiting a major back operation on 30th oct which limits me to what i can do, all DH can do is moan or have a go at everything i do, for example i find walking hard, cos of the pain, but im not allowed to use the car and if i do it has to be for a very good reason.
Our DS plays football for the local town and he loves it, but its always me who takes him to football, which i love but it would be nice if HD would take an interest in our DS's interest, i know he doesn't like football but surely he should do it for our DS?
Regarding our DS doing football DH has said that it has now messed up his cycling as it means i cant drive him to a place for him to be able to cycle home cos im always doing football at weekends, i told him we can always sort something out and work round it, but he just wont listen, he reckons the only reason our DS is doing football is cos i pushed him into so i could socialise with the mums from school.

Me and my DS are staying at a friends house for a couple of days and i told DH to sort his head out and decide what it is he is going to do cos i have had enough of living like this, i have suggested we go to counciling but he has refused to go and said im not talking to anyone else about our problems.
Can someone please give me advice on what to do next!!!!

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pinkhair · 08/12/2010 16:42

WWIFN is was a tyring error, i meant me...
it's my fault i suppose about the doctors cos i wanted to take him in there and speak to her at the same time about me you see. H didnt have time to go to the shops cos of taking us to docs and then going to work early, yet he had time to be on here for about 1 hour before hand then went off and walked our dog. PHBF has said about phoning womens aid tonight as she is coming round, but i dont know if i have the courage to speak to them. :(

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pinkhairsbestfriend · 08/12/2010 16:45

x posts!! I'll ring 'em then xx

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2010 16:50

phbf, you are not a bad friend

maltesers · 08/12/2010 16:53

You cannot change someone elses behaviour, only your own.. . .Unless he wants to change and save his marriage he is up shit creek without a paddle. !! He is domineering and not very kind to you at all. He is self centred and thinks only of himself. He is lazy and trying to control you. He is manipulative . . Do not fall for any of this.

He sounds just like my Ex . . .who wanted his own way about everyting and when he didnt get it threw a paddy.
Stay strong, and ignore him when he is using manipulative behaviour.
You are not to blame or the cause when he is annoyed and stubborn. . . .he is his own problem, and when pissed off will try to make you feel as shit as he is by trying to upset you. . .ignore, and dont apologise to him.

pinkhairsbestfriend · 08/12/2010 16:55

Thanks AF.....I was just soooooooo ANGRY!!!! Angry

It feels like he is abusing the friends pinkhair has made (because she is lovely) to meet his own needs.
Lunch over sick son.....words fail me Sad

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2010 16:58

You were remarkably restrained in the circumstances, it sounds like.

pinkhair · 08/12/2010 17:04

PHBF you are not a bad person, you never have been and i know you never will be, you only have my best interests at heart. you know i would do the same for you any time of day or night. are you sure you are ok calling them on my behalf??

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pinkhairsbestfriend · 08/12/2010 17:16

AF~ Yes I am restraining myself!! I am not at all violent, but I have never wanted to punch someones lights out more in my life (and that includes my unfaithful H). Our other mutual friend feels the same. We are holding ourselves back for PInkhairs sake.
Pinkhair~ Yes I will call womens aid, you know i will xx

pinkhair · 08/12/2010 17:42

PHBF WWIFN has said about taking you to the doctors with me when i make a double appointment to chat to her, is it something you would consider, i know you are proberly thinking why am i even asking cis you know i would do that for you, but you know me phbf.

it is so had not to apologise to him cos of the way he turns it around and says its either my fault or my friends for interfering. but if it wasnt for them or any of you on here, i really dont know where i would be right now or in what state of mind.

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pinkhairsbestfriend · 08/12/2010 17:50

Hahahaha!! I'm thinking.... Of course, but why are you asking me on here Grin !!!! We must look loonies!! I'll see you later!! Smile

pinkhair · 08/12/2010 17:56

PHBF :)

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TurnipCake · 08/12/2010 17:59

Pinkhair - it sounds like a good idea to take your friend with you (who sounds absolutely lovely btw)

My ex constantly turned things against me (I used to call it shifting the goalposts to whatever suited him) so I wasn't allowed to 'overreact' at him, but it was fine for him to stand over me while I was sitting down, with him talking to me in a threatening manner. This was all because I had the audacity to make myself a snack without asking whether he wanted one too.

I know you feel like you're going mad now, but I promise, after I got out of my situation, it was like a new world opened up to me, things got so much better and I never looked back :)

pinkhair · 08/12/2010 19:03

WWIFN- Calling womens aid just seems like the last resort,i know I have moaned about h on here no end but once again when it comes down to doing it I want to back out and try and make things work, which I know is the wrong thing, cos like you and everyone else I have spoke to on here have all said the same, but once again after 20 years its a hell of a long time to not be with that person.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2010 19:05

Just talk to them, PH.

They won't try and force you to do anything you are not ready for.

domeafavour · 08/12/2010 20:40

Pinkhair, I could have written this. I feel like I know exactly how you feel. It's some kind of denial, you feel like you owe it to the relationship to fix it.
I don't have any answers, I seem to be in exactly the same boat, and don't know how to get out if it, but I have admitted to myself that it needs to end.
I wish you the strength to get out if this now, good luck. X

pinkhairsbestfriend · 08/12/2010 22:39

Hey guys, have just got home form a rather vodka and baileys fuelled night at Pinkhairs house. I tried to ring Womens Aid, which took some persuading as Pinkhair is finding the whole thing difficult, feels it her fault etc.....anyway, they were too busy too answer (we did ring at about 9.30pm) and advised that we ring back between 7am and 7pm another day.
I am going to pick up Pinkhair tomorrow morning and bring her to my house to ring (as her H will be at her house). Hoping it will be really helpful to pinkhair.....thanks again everyone (esp WWIFN and AF), will keep you updated.
I'm off to bed now, am rather pished to be honest!!! Was a nice evening though Wink

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2010 22:41

keep in touch x

pinkhair · 08/12/2010 23:12

H came home from work and I confronted him about earlier as to why he had put his dinner first before out son, and still he said well you should of told me I was out of order, but why should I he is the your son too you should know to put him first,he wants to make amends, i've told him that I dont love him at the minute cos of the way he is and has treated me and our ds, he has spoke about moving out for a while but I expect thats all talk again. Do you know what, its surprising how much you say why you have drink inside you, I stood up to him quite a bit tonight. But as usual he couldn't take it and shut the door and went down stairs to sleep where he has for the last 2 years :(

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LoveMyGirls · 09/12/2010 07:39

The question you have to ask yourself is are you prepared to waste spend another 20 yrs walking on eggshells, not being able to rely on your H and watching your ds grow up and treat his gf/ dw like this.

Read over your wedding vows and see how many your H has kept, see if that helps you to see its not you that has broken your promises. In sickness and in health?

I would go to my parents for xmas without him. You have suffered enough from his mental cruelty, let him have xmas on his own and realise that's what his life will be like all the time because he will NEVER change, men like that dont.

Also worth reading "women who love too much"

(I was abused so I do know how it feels to be so scared of breaking free, thinking you are going mad, not trusting your own judgement and walking on egg shells. I once got punched for not making the beans on his fry up hot enough, really men like your H don't deserve women like us!) Luckily for me I left after 2 yrs with the help of friends, family, my now DH and counselling and prozac and you can too!

pinkhairsbestfriend · 09/12/2010 07:53

Thanks Turnipcake and lovemygirls. This all helps Pinkhair You are an inspiration to pinkhair (and me!). Any adivice about how you find the strength to get out?? When someone has worn you down for so long and makes you feel it's all your fault, how do you make the break??? I am seperated from my H due to his affair and pinkhair thinks thats reasonable but is failing to see her situation is more unbearable to live with......
Domeafavour ~ I hope you find the strength to get out of your situation too xxx

pinkhairsbestfriend · 09/12/2010 07:57

lovemygirls Did you also have the feelings of feeling sorry for your exH?? I think this is a normal feeling towards someone that is twisting your head round in circles and making you feel like its your fault......Pinkhair thinks its significant she feels this way and he won't cope without her.

LoveMyGirls · 09/12/2010 08:37

Yes sometimes I did feel sorry for him, his dad had abused his mum so he hadn't had a good role model and I thought I was capable of changing him, making him a better person, if I just didn't do all the things that annoyed him maybe he would love me and treat me better, next time I'd do it better and then he would be grateful instead of angry. He was always so sorry and would be nice to make it up to me and reminding me I wouldn't get anyone else because I had dd etc he asked me to marry him and convinced me to give up the pill so I could get pregnant even though dd (not his) was only 18mths old and I was 19! Luckily I had the sense to take the pill in secret.

I tried to overdose when we'd been together about a year luckily my sister realised what I'd done and got my step dad to break into the bathroom and drag me to hospital I seriously thought dd would be better off without me, turned out I had PND which had gone undiagnosed, I started counselling then and she helped me find my own answers, she listened and supported and never got annoyed with me when I went back time after time and said I still hadn't left him but by then I wasn't fully living with him, my mum had rented me a flat but I was still with him a lot fo the time, he brought a house that he said I was welcome to move into but when they tried to evict me from the flat for not paying rent he said I couldn't move in with him even though the landlord was threatening to drag me and dd out and baseball bat us, by then I was spending more and more time with my friends and my now dh and I saw if I moved in there, if I convinced him to let us then I would be stuck there so I didn't, I broke up with him and moved to the other side of town, his mum and sister came to visit before I moved and said if I loved him then I would try again I said if they loved me and dd like they said they did then they would keep him away from me and let us go and be free to live our lives.

It took more counselling, couples counselling with my new dp and years to feel anything other than worthless, now my dd1 is 11 and I am very happy but I would NEVER have been happy if I had stayed with him. Since I left him he has been to prison a few times for violent crimes, owning a gun but also for gbh towards his girlfriend proving that he never changed.

LoveMyGirls · 09/12/2010 08:39

I think the hardest bit after leaving is not being able to trust yourself, I questioned myself over everything all the time, I didn't have any faith in myself.

PH will find it hard but not impossible but counselling is a must imo.

pinkhairsbestfriend · 09/12/2010 10:13

lovemygirls Thank you so much for your story. What an amazingly strong woman you are. Smile

UnlikelyCrackerzonian · 09/12/2010 10:42

PHBF I really hope you are ringing WA with, or on behalf of, pinkhair this morning.

I found them absolutely amazing. Please ask them if they run their Pattern Changing course where you are. It is really fantastic and will help change Pinkhair's life....it is free and she can self-refer to get on it. But sadly, they do not run Pattern Changing everywhere Sad (If I ever come into big money I am going to give it all to WA to set up PC courses all over the country)

Pinkhair, you have done amazingly well. Just coping with being in a wheelchair would grind anyone down, let alone putting up too with the terrible cruelty that this man has heaped upon you.

WA can advise you on how to get out. You could go into a refuge if necessary.

My exH was a terrible jeckyll and hyde. I was involved with the police, WA and a couple of overdose attempts myself until I finally realised that I was NOT going to let my then-baby son grow up in such a hideous atmosphere and with such a shit father.

As soon as exH knew that my fierce love for my son and the need to protect him meant that I had become and amazonian mother, he knew the game was up. He cleared off abroad taking every penny we owned with him.

He was a very intelligent, charming well-educated man on the outside. He easily manipulated a counsellor he saw at my insistence at one point (he came back one night grinning and told me 'I can control the conversation in any way I like...she is not clever enough for me' Shock )

I stayed with him because, well,
a) I had an abusive childhood and bullying parents so it was behaviour I was 'normalised' to (I had just begun to make this connection and have cut contact with them now).
b) I felt I had taken marriage vows and couldn't break them,
c) Because I sort of felt sorry for him for various things,
d) I absolutely could not see a way to make it work financially and I was terrified of being a LP with a small baby and no job
e) Because the sheer drama and shit of the marriage made me too bloody ill and exhausted to work out how to leave.

My exH did not love me. He did not love his son. He loved himself.

2 and a half years since he ran away now, and I am skint, yes, but my god I am happy and my ds is a very happy, constantly-laughing, loving, sociable, clever and totally unafraid little gem.

If the bastard and I had remained together I would have been in a loony bin by now and, god forbid, my poor son would have had to live with his callous abusive father alone!

Go go go PHBF! You are doing a sterling job...maybe start a thread yourself about your twatty H and get some support for you too?? xx

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