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its all gone to shit

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jinx1 · 11/10/2010 00:54

sorry, very long. i thought me and dp had a great relationship, loving, trusting, lovely house, new baby, he's a good dad to her and my two older dc's from previous relationship, etc etc. perfect. only not. to be honest i thought i was reading too much mumsnet and seeing it all of a sudden materialize in rl. it started with a little less affection from him which was wierd cos we've always been very touchy feely. Then it was less sex. Then it was turning his back to me in bed without so much as a good night let alone a hug or kiss. all of which i called him on, asked if everyhting was ok etc and he said work was stressful so i let him be. next it was disappearing into the bath for an hour after work every night, taking himself off to bed as early as 7pm on his days off,and getting an awful lot of texts from someone he said it was a workmate with relationship problems. in general not being himself and being incredibly secretive.
the bombshell came after we'd had a great night out together on the saturday night, the first time since new baby came along. really had an awesome night, lots of affection, lots of sex, just like we'd always been. the next afternoon he went to this old mates house. i called him about 1am windering where he was cos he had no key and i wanted to go to bed but his phone was off. i went to bed and he turned up middle of the next day. he missed the last train. his battery had died. fair enough. he takes himself off for a bath and is quiet with me. that night he told me he needed space to think and he wasn't sure where our relationship was headed. WTF??? and i ended up at my parents with the kids for a few days completely bewildered and heartbroken. and it came out bit by bit. he'd met a girl on his lunchbreak at work two weeks previous. a random girl who'd asked for a light. and he'd taken her number. and met her for lunch a couple of times. and the workmate with the relationship problems he'd so merrily told me he was texting wasn't at all, it was her. and in the bath every night...texting her. and when he took himself off to bed cos he was so tired...texting her. and she's 18 for fucks sake. and she now knows all about our little family and how apparantly he hasnt been happy with me for a while and is only here for our new baby. and she's said all the right things. i wish you could leave her for me but i'm worried she won't let you see the baby. what the fuck!!! and he's bought it.
so he admits all this to me while i sit crying and tells me nothing has happened with her he wants it to work between us.i feel completely betrayed even though its just been texts and lunch i now know he's been lying to me and he's sat next to me on the sofa infront of the tv all cosy with the baby and all... texting some lass telling her he's not happy here. i tell him if we're gonna make it work he'll have to stop contact and he agrees. but the next day...he tells me he thinks we should split after all. he wont give her up and she is just a friend. no friend asks you to leave your partner when you've just had a baby together. and the fact that a conversation went on where he let her think he might... that was 2 weeks ago.
now i find myself living with my partner who tells me he can be nothing more than my friend. who lies to me when he feels like it(told me he was going for drink with a mate on friday night then admitted he'd walked round our area for 3 hours with someone he used to work with cos she was bored, while i sat at home on my own trying to settle the baby) he's still in touch with the 18 year old girl and she texts him regularly and has been into work to see him but he still says nothing has happened. doesnt seem to realise how much it hurts me him still being in contact with her...feels like she's back-up, like she's just waiting for him to decide to leave. and has been out all weekend fuck knows where while i'm at home in pieces with our newborn and my older dc. he keeps saying he wants things back as they were with us but this will be the second night he's been out with no contact...nothing. and when i pointed out in a text this aft that he's barely seen the baby in 3 days and i may as well be on my own he accuses me of using her as a weapon to get him home. i was single mum for a good few years in a crappy area when i met him and one of the wrost things is how he makes out i should be grateful for all he's done for me and my kids and makes me feel like he did me a favour. what the hell happened to the relationship i thought i had? just don't know what to do. he swears nothing has happened with this girl and that it won't but this is his second night away i don't know where he is or what to think. my gut instict says this mate he's stayin at is giving him somewhere to take this girl but i don't want to believe that of him. just feel completely lost like my world has tipped upside down and i'm hanging onto the edge for dear life. finding it hard to keep a brave face for older dc's and coping with newborn. should be such a happy time. what to do?

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jinx1 · 30/10/2010 13:39

Yes its difficult being normal for the kids, the party last night helped with moral I think. Today my parents have taken over with them a bit which is a nice break. They're taking us for a coffee and just generally being ace x

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mathanxiety · 30/10/2010 23:03

He is set on self destruct and he will take you down with him. Do not trust him to have been careful. He dose not care at all about you or your welfare or your baby's welfare, or health.

He despises himself and hates you.

He used you to fool himself that he was capable of being a straight family man and when you didn't 'fix him' he took his anger at himself out on you, and apparently others before you.

mathanxiety · 30/10/2010 23:04

does

jinx1 · 31/10/2010 03:51

Had a night out as my parents have the kids. Really enjoyed it just let my hair down. Talked to lots of cool people felt a bit more like myself. Massive argument when I got home as 18 year old was texting p. Doesn't she have anyone else to text I ask. All her friends are on a field trip. Well I had to laugh. He just blew up with all this defence of her. Now he's moving out cos i'm making his life impossible. WTF. Not he's been a shitbag and I've had to live with it put up and shut up for a peaceful life...no I'm a knob head and a bitch cos he's done right by me...done fucking right by me!!! And he resents me cos I let my emotions rule me now he's got to leave and will only see baby one or twice a week. He should have fucking thought of that when he was getting all distracted and bored and dissatisfied. Feel like screaming. I should have just kept quiet about the text but im just so sick of treading on eggshells where he's concerned. I know you're thinking why hasnt she just chucked him out already...I wanted to be civilised and dignified. I wanted to regain some composure and not act like the crazy in tears woman I seem to have evolved into. Now he's told me he doesn't see why he should pay rent when he won't be here. It's due Monday :( but says if he does pay it I have til end of November to leave. Aaaaaarrrrrggghhh. Virtual scream at the impossibility of the man. I also told him I'm not in love with him anymore how could I be now? Told him I don't care what or who he does. He refuses to believe it. Grr. Sorry early hours rant. He's taken himself to bed and told me not to follow him. Thing is I can't afford to leave.

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EternalCynic · 31/10/2010 09:59

I am shocked at the way this man has treated you and, worse, your children. How dare he? You are being so strong, though you might not feel it. You sound like a wonderful mother, and we all know that you will get through this. I am furious on your behalf though..out of interest, what have your parents had to say about it? I'm sure they will provide valuable support. Stay strong, don't even let his words enter your mind. Just focus on your babies and ignore his lies until you can get away from him. Please don't let him bring you down

shadycharacter · 31/10/2010 12:24

Christ Jinx. Just go to your parents. Is that a possibility? If he decides to just take himself off and not pay the rent, you'll end up in court. You need to call landlord/letting agents and let them know what's going on asap. If they decide they won't let you stay there whilst in receipt of HB, then you need to get down to the council and put your name on the housing waiting list explaining the situation. They may even offer a scheme whereby they lend you a deposit for a new private rental. Also please get your income support etc claims sorted, he's obviously using money as a weapon now and you need to be financially independent.

So glad your parents are helping out, it's easier when there's somebody to lean on.
He's talking shit, just ignore it, what he's saying to you about you making his life impossible etc is utterly ludicrous. You've allowed him to continue to live in the family home whilst he's screwing around with other people, totally neglecting his parental duties. You have in no way made his life impossible.

I totally understand you wanting to be civilised, but when somebody hurts you that much and rubs it in your face like that, plays cruel games with you, it's very difficult to remain composed! I think you're handling it incredibly well but I think for your own emotional well being, you need to get out of that house, he still has a hold over you while you're there. Glad you had a good night out though...there's plenty more of them to come! :)

jinx1 · 31/10/2010 15:22

Well I left for shop this morning and had written him a letter putting my cards on the table. He didn't seem interested in listening figured he couldn't ignore a letter. Told him how shit this was and I just don't care what or who he does anymore I am done wasting energy on it all. Just that I'd stopped fighting to get it back and let go of him. Set him free I suppose. When I got in he said he didn't read it cos couldnt read my handwriting. Think he just wanted to hear it from me so repeated it all. He asked about my night out told him a guy had given me his number and that was all. Felt incredibly guilty ffs!!! Oh and chatted to random person on iPhone app. Now he's acting like I've fucking well betrayed him. All I did was have a couple of conversations no intention of following them up was just nice to feel attractive ( I did look awesome without sounding vain just really made an effort is all) I know I shouldn't let this bother me so why is it doing??? I should be saying who I talk to is none of your business like he does.

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shodatin · 31/10/2010 15:32

I don't understand why you're still talking to this person.

msboogieHallowqueen · 31/10/2010 15:35

jinx he is judging you by his own shitty standards, ignore him! You need to take the housing situation into your own hands now. Speak to the landlord about the situation or move in with your parents. Stop letting him mess with your head. I have to agree that he hates himself, in which case he is unlikely to have been careful with sex. Glad you had a good might out though. Good on you girl!

jinx1 · 31/10/2010 15:42

He says he's leaving on Friday. I am about to tell him to get his shit and go now.

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shadycharacter · 31/10/2010 18:51

He has absolutely no interest in sorting things through or listening to your feelings so just don't bother talking to him about it. It will only hurt you more when he totally ignores you.

Of course it will bother you, that's totally normal...you shared your life with this guy, feelings and habits don't just go away, they just become over-ruled by different ones.

How did things go tonight? Did you manage to ask him to leave?

x

ScaryFucker · 31/10/2010 19:08

Just caught up with this thread after several days

What a whirlwind

Jinx, get rid of this man

And then then ask yourself some probing questions as to why you are taunting him with tales of giving your number to another man

He is fucked up, and for some reason you are buying into this shit

Please just get him (or yourself) out of the house and don't participate in the game playing

It does you, your resolve, nor your mental health any good at all

jinx1 · 31/10/2010 22:42

He's out now don't know where, dont care either. I took dc's trick or treating and he said he'd be out when I got back. He's text to ask about baby and tell me he won't be in late. He plans to leave this week, he has a place lined up and I need to sort out my life. Not paying the rent was an empty threat and I have a month to find a new home. No problem. He actually seemed pretty sad this afternoon, like he finally realised he'd trashed something good and lost all we had here.
Nothing more to tell really. Ive gone through every emotion under the sun lately now I don't seem capable of feeling very much at all. Just gonna keep on being strong for my dc's and baby. X x

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mathanxiety · 01/11/2010 00:11

I second the advice not to stoop to his level, just stop talking to him altogether. There's nothing left in this relationship. And don't fall for the sad demeanour. That's just more manipulation. Threats then labrador puppy -- he's using all the tricks.

shadycharacter · 02/11/2010 11:06

Hi Jinx, how you doing today?

SolidButShamblingUndeadBrass · 02/11/2010 11:23

Good luck with making the break. Please remember that what this man wanted from you - all he ever wanted from you - was domestic service and a prop for his image -a Wife&kids he could wave at people he wanted to convince that he was a grown up.
Unfortunately, like a lot of men with issues around their sexuality, this man doesn't like women at all. You will be much better off without him.

msboogieHallowqueen · 02/11/2010 12:04

how are things jinx?

jinx1 · 03/11/2010 21:34

Hi all sorry for not posting just felt I needed a break. Well after we talked about him leaving he had an email from work saying he was needed in another area over 300 miles away. We'd been expecting it and knew it would be short notice due to the nature of his job. So everything has been put aside for the 2 or 3 weeks he'll be away. The breathing space is great, it's been lovely just to think my own thoughts just me and the kids and the baby. Had a massive apology from him
before he left for all the hurt he's caused and he told me he knows everyone hates him but it can't be anywhere near as much as he hates himself.
I can't believe how relaxed I feel or how well I'm coping with the regular day to day stuff now there's no pretence. I actually find I dont care what he's doing. I feel detached. Is that normal? Is this part of the healing process? Far from fine but that horrible torn feeling seems to be dulling.

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Mitchymum · 03/11/2010 23:02

Jinx, glad things are better now.

If nothing else, the space will let you appreciate if you like being on your own, and if you prefer it.

Otherwise, you may miss him like crazy, and make other choices.

shadycharacter · 05/11/2010 10:15

Good to hear from you Jinx. I think it's the absence of the stress that is giving you that detached feeling, which would be totally normal!

I think the few weeks breathing space is just what you need, hopefully it'll make things clearer for both of you.

Mousefawkes · 05/11/2010 15:44

Jinx

I have just caught up from my last post.

Thank God you have this space to be on your own for a few weeks. With a bit of luck, you will see that you really can survive without him and actually, enjoy being you again.

Does this mean that he will still move out when he gets back from this job?

Detached is normal. And more than likely because you have realised that the relationship as you once knew it, is well and truly over.

You are starting to cut the emotional ties that he had over you.

The fact that he is not there to confuse you whilst you are adjusting will help.

I think you have handled this so well. x

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