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ALL NEW Road to Recovery for the Recently Ditched No.8

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teaandcakeplease · 03/10/2010 19:02

Dearly Be-Chucked, we are gathered here today because, for whatever reason, our man has dumped us!

Whether you are a new dumpling or a vet, feel free to join us in our quest for serenity Angry Sad Shock Hmm Blush

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Patienceobtainsallthings · 09/10/2010 00:04

Well im a fecking expert string dangler person my X just wanted the best of both worlds,his pub life and me to look after the kids and do all his domestics ,thats why he kept telling me he loved me ,to keep me hooked in,he wasnt interested in treating me well only treating himself well,but that life has gone for him too ,he is no longer life and soul of the party , i was madly in love with him and heartbroken just doesnt come close to the emotion i felt but to live with a man that doesnt respect you isnt what im all about.He had his chances to make amends but too much like effort for him he is acting about 16yo now with no responsibilities ,i wanted it to work out but my boundaries changed big time when i was on my own,i guess what changed the most for me was the more things i found out the more he pushed himself away ,i dont want to rescue him anymore ,i want a man that is an equal to me and someone that respects what he has got.I want a real live human[ not a vegged out cabbage] with a bit more ambition than drinking a 6 pack everynite.

startingovernow · 09/10/2010 00:32

Yes am loving the dumpling kickass attitude!

Chyler, am wondering why you were cutting his hair?? I'd have been cutting something else entirely Grin

Patienceobtainsallthings · 09/10/2010 00:50

C by next July everyone will know he is a liar LOL because he will act like such a dick [they cant help themselves trust me on this one ],just detatch as much as you can,people who were complete allies of my X have turned full circle now and actually chat to me about what an arsehole he is,i really thought they would believe everything he said ,turns out only person that does is his Mammy ROFL !

armbow · 09/10/2010 10:17

Morning all just wrote a huge post and lost it

Chyler I know how u must be feeling about the lies as I hate injustice... hang on in there it will come right in the end.

Woken up full of dumping spirit today. Indifferent to the whole sorry business this morning.... got better things to ponder like my and the dcs new life. H and ow are off to Paris now.... then the Scottish highlands so won't be in my home town after all thank god. But so very sad as to how the dcs will not be seeing their dad whilst all this goes on.... really sticks in my throat that and makes my blood boil

Hope you are ok getting and having a nice weekend
I have missed lcs other thread can someone link pls or tell me where I can find it

Hope business is going well patience

Xxxx.

armbow · 09/10/2010 11:02

Morning all just wrote a huge post and lost it

Chyler I know how u must be feeling about the lies as I hate injustice... hang on in there it will come right in the end.

Woken up full of dumping spirit today. Indifferent to the whole sorry business this morning.... got better things to ponder like my and the dcs new life. H and ow are off to Paris now.... then the Scottish highlands so won't be in my home town after all thank god. But so very sad as to how the dcs will not be seeing their dad whilst all this goes on.... really sticks in my throat that and makes my blood boil

Hope you are ok getting and having a nice weekend
I have missed lcs other thread can someone link pls or tell me where I can find it

Hope business is going well patience

Xxxx.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 09/10/2010 11:53

Glad you r ok AB. Hopefully your phone posting skills are developing.... mine are although I still am at risk of making some amazing predictive text faux parts.

Waves and hugs to all. Planning to party hearty tonight. Hmmm, not sure I know how to do that but let's hope I succeed and don't look a total prat.

Bit random I know but did anyone see the Emma Thompson and Alan Rickman play this week? Just read critic write up and sounds good. Will have to find on catch up.

And finally, are you ok LC?

littlecritter · 09/10/2010 18:01

Hi everyone. Just touching base. All ok but more stuff has happened mainly to do with ds who is finally digging his heels in and says he is fed up of staying in hotels with his dad and wants to stay at home. Plus some other emotional stuff - expressing his anger, disappointment insecurity etc. So xp and I have called a truce and we are concentrating on ds. The balance of power has definitely shifted; xp has had a huge shock. He seems very remorseful and is bending over backwards to try and do the right thing. I would say for the first time he genuinely understands the enormity of what has happened. I feel more in control now,

ekacpuc · 09/10/2010 18:49

Evening all. Patience, that song always makes me sad as I think that's what xh felt about me.

You've reminded me, i've been wanting to ask you all.

Do you really think it's better to have loved and lost than never loved at all ?

serious question. (pink here, forgot to change back )

teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 18:59

Hello I think tonight I am going to use this thread to just let some stuff out too, probably fairly depressing, so do not read it if you feel fragile.

Yesterday I had a bit of a disagreement with a good friend. All my friends are happily married at the moment with children. I said how alone I feel and like I don't belong and almost feel like I do not fit in. She basically told me that she feels alone all the time as she has 3 young children and her hubby is often out at work and she has to manage alone and she also doesn't find it easy to get out places either and told me she thinks I need to snap out of it. It actually got me thinking as I am often in a low mood for most of the day, I feel worthless and useless a lot and I have lost enjoyment and interest in life, I have a poot motivation and simple tasks seem difficult. I think this is why I have been guilty of spending so much time on mumsnet, it's easy to sit here and read and comment, rather than engage in real life. I'm always lacking in energy, irritable and tired. I can't just snap out of it, life feels so grey. That book I mentioned further down on the thread (Missing Being Mrs, Jennifer Croly) has just arrived, it's actually heavily scripture based as it's written by a Christian, so maybe not a good idea to buy unless you're ok with that IYSWIM? Anyway she says she remembers having the sinking feeling that the whole journey of life was now going to be like this with little enjoyment and even less hope. That is exactly how I feel now. I think my friend thinks as I've been separated almost a year I should be over it all. I have accepted the fact he's not coming back to me, yes that's true but as this book also pointed out to me, the hurt is ongoing. It's not just when you realise you're alone, that you have to try and forgive and let go and move on but also subsequent occassions when loneliness and pain kick in, such as Christmas alone, your birthday, holiday times, going to an empty bed, seeing couples out together and the party everyone is taking a partner to. She says each time it hurts in a different way and you have to let go again. This is definitely where I am at. I can imagine at weekends when all my pals are with their hubbys and busy doing family things, the lovely time they're having etc. The truth is as we've said on here before, they're probably fighting like cats and dogs but I still find those thoughts creeping in. After a year most people have forgotten about it she says in the book but you've barely acknowledged the reality of it. You've had one Christmas season without them, one uncelebrated anniversary, one holiday where you've tried holidaying alone, his/ her birthday came and went, celebrated with others. Your birthday came and you wondered how to celebrate it. Then there's the first anniversary of when they left: the weather is similar; the feelings come rushing back, but you've survived! You've done everything once. Just once. Two years go by and you've done everything twice. The legal work may not be settled. You may be a long way through the process of grief or a very short way down that road. People take varying amounts of time to recover. But to the world at large it's all in the past now. People judge pain by their own experience. Unless they themselves have suffered a great loss, they will have no idea how long it takes to adjust. My friend simply does not understand it. She cannot as she hasn't experienced anything like it.

It hurt actually, as she is one of the few RL friends that I trust to share my feelings with. On the other hand she may have done me a great service, as it has made me look harder at how I feel within and I think I maybe suffering mild depression, as try as I might I cannot reach the positive place Patience is. I think my friends think I'm getting better because I am no longer outwardly angry or tearful or sad but within I have this lethargy, this weariness for life and hopelessness. My friend made me realise when she shouted at me, exactly how I feel within. This book isn't all negative, I am certainly finding myself nodding along to so much of it. But it is definitely helping me at the moment. So I think I'm going to pay a visit to my GP next week dumplings.

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teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 19:10

poot = poor

I've been out at my mums today, so I'll catch up on everyones news later. I need to wash up and pick up toys. This is a daily struggle to find the motivation to do right now Blush

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littlecritter · 09/10/2010 19:44

Tea, your friend can't be expected to understand really and I hope she's never in a position to. All you've said is so true. I'm only 3 months down the line and I am dreading Christmas.

Anyway, maybe she is alone. There's nothing more lonely than when you are with other people and still feel lonely! In time you will start to see the advantages of being single.

When I went to counselling last week I said the thought of being without xp is terrifying but the thought of having him back is actually even worse. And I really mean that.

I think one of the things that really saps you is when you lose control or feel like you have no control. Try and do something which gives you a feeling of power and strength. I mean you are coping with a really shitty situation and every day you survive in one piece you deserve a big pat on the back.

teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 19:55

I know she can't be expected to understand truly, certainly proved that to me yesterday as you can't compare being betrayed and cheated on and left to her situation really. I wouldn't wish it on her either. The book says the same. Anyway I was just typing out how I feel today. Just grabbed some dinner and about to read through what I've missed on here today.

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teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 20:11

Pink - in my situation I wish I hadn't married my H at all. I do have 2 wonderful children now but it seems our entire marriage he lied about all sorts of things. So for me looking back on all of my marriage fills me with regret. I think if I'd been married for 22 years or so and nearly all of that was good until the betrayal I may feel differently. IYSWIM?

Chyler hope you're ok tonight. Agree with Patience advice ((hugs))

That play sounds good Happy, so you have a link for info?

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teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 20:11

so = do

So tired, too many typos Blush

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soverign21 · 09/10/2010 21:18

I feel just like you do and im only a little way in Tea, i play with my DC and laugh with them and laugh with friends and occasionally do fun things but on the inside i feel no happiness, my heart just feels dead

Most days i just function, waiting to go to sleep so i can get the next day over with
But i dont dont admit it to anyone, RL friends think i'm just fine and dandy because if i try to talk to them they just say he's not worth it and can't understand me at all so i just pretend hoping that if i tell myself it enough i will eventually start to believe it and start to feel good and positive again

I try to let my anger carry me most of the time because i dont want to waste my tears on him, but i miss him and it hurts like hell to realise that most of our relationship was a lie and he doesnt miss me and infact hates me so much he is willing to sacrife a relationship with his DC

I have trouble sometimes believeing how much my life has changed in these short months and i feel like it's just a bad dream that i will wake up from eventually but i know that it's not and this is my life now, i just hope that it will get better for me and DC soon

Oh look you've made me cry again lol ((((HUGS TEA))))

Pink atm i wish i had never loved at all then i wouldn't be feeling like this and i dont feel like i'll ever love again..........wish my appointment for councelling would hurry up and come through :(

startingovernow · 09/10/2010 21:26

Armbow, so glad that you're feeling positive & strong today. It is sad for dc's but prob a lot easier to have xh & ow at a healthy distance!

Happy, hope you let rip & have a great party night Grin.

LC, glad a truce has been called! Easier to manage emotionally Smile

Pink, far better to have loved & lost I think Smile.

Tea, I think your friend might be a great friend to you but her comments show that she has little insight or understanding of your situation. What jumped out at me & concerns me is "when she shouted at me"?? I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to shout at you so I'm not sure what you mean by this.

When you mention the depression. I've never suffered from depression but I have to say I many moments of feeling depressed over past two years. I would certainly say go to your gp if you think you need a bit of extra support atm. Other options would be using something herbal such as rescue rememdy. I can also highly recommend burning uplifting oils in the house such as bergamot & sprinkling a few drops on your pillow by night or in your bath. Find the oil that works best for you & carry it with you so when you need it you can hold bottle just under your nose & inhale 2/3 times or put a few drops on a tissue & keep it next to skin up your sleeve & pull it out & inhale at regular intervals. Getting out for a walk or fresh air also helps, even 20mins daily. Also make sure you have enough adult interaction everyday. Practicing meditation also really helps keep you balanced & calm etc. Hope I haven't bombarded you but stuff like that saved my sanity over past two years. I also think the course you're doing will really help to give you a new focus & build your confidence etc.

Try & keep the faith though that this will pass & get easier with time. I've had some v black days & times when I thought I was going backwards but I just had to find a way of getting through those days & holding onto my faith that it would pass. ((Hugs))

startingovernow · 09/10/2010 21:34

Sov, ((Hugs)). I have felt exactly like you described, dead on the inside. It's taken a long time but I now feel fully alive again. The pain in my heart has healed. There is still a part of me that wishes it had been different but I now accept things the way they are & just look forward to whatever life brings my way now. My xh's hatred for me was also greater then his love for his children & unfortunately this has cost dc's their relationship with him. This however is outside of my control & I know I did everything in my power to facilitate xh having a good relationship with dc's so all I can do now is accept things as they are.

teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 21:51

She shouted at me trying to tell me how great my life could be, how I could really grow in my faith etc. She has apologised since. It shocked me at the time as usually she has always been so kind and warm and at peace. When I think back to what was said I feel uncomfortable now. I know she meant well but she truly doesn't understand I think. It wasn't as if I moan constantly to her. I have mentioned just once before how I feel alone and like I don't belong. I think she see's it is as simple as abc and I can move onwards and upwards in my life and my life is no worse than hers or other mums.

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teaandcakeplease · 09/10/2010 21:54

I think she was caught up in the moment and feeling passionate. It wasn't like she called me stupid, or silly or anything rude. But I did feel like she minimalised my feelings or what it is like to be a lone parent and alone because your husband has betrayed you. I've never had a friend shout at me since school. I usually get along well with friends so I'm feeling unsettled and tearful now, I think perhaps I almost feel like I deserved it perhaps for some reason?

I'm off to bed in a moment.

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startingovernow · 09/10/2010 22:09

Tea, ((Hugs)) Nobody deserves to be shouted at & certainly when you're already feeling vunerable. Shouting at someone shuts them down. Tbh it sounds like you triggered something in her that has nothing to do with you or your situation. She prob meant well but it sounds like you must have touched on something sensetive within her. A real friend will listen to you moan as often as you need to. I'm not saying she's not a real friend but obviously there's something in this that she's not able to handle. Maybe you need to find someone else who will be more understanding who you can have a good moan to whenever you need. I have some friends that even though I would consider them great friends in certain areas there would be some things I would know that they would not be the best people to discuss them with. I am now v selective in the people I have in my life. I obviously don't mean to cut your friend out but if she does not have empathy for your situation then it's prob best you don't take her opinion on board. Saying that it may have been her best attempt at trying to help you, sometimes people mean well but it comes out wrong.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 09/10/2010 23:18

Tea,yes i do have a positive outlook but this is learnt and practised everyday because if i think negatively i will get down FACT.I am not invalidating your emotions at all.I have bad days when i mourn my marriage but i also agree with lc that the thought of my X coming home scares me much more than the thought of doing it alone.I agree re the lethargy,i havent been arsed to do much since i stopped working in August ie i have more time but i cant be bothered ,i do find not switching on the computer helps though.But it is a past time when you are low ,i just felt this week i was ready to wean myself off.Also not had a fag since about monday its good for my breathing and that kinda an essential in this life.Anyway Tea what i think i am trying to say is i dont always feel what i am saying but i still believe it if that makes sense,i dont talk about DOOM because if i do someone is bound to agree with me and it feels x2 as bad as b4 i started.I dont think that book would be 4 me because it does sound to much of a downer and it sounds like i need a bad man in my life .well i dont ,i dont miss being mrs at all ,it was truly awful ,but i was married to a lying manipulator ,not like all your great men,oh wait a minute they were all lying bastards too LOL!!!Take the freedom and run Tea ,you will have love in your life of course you will but you have said plenty of times you are not ready yet,thats fab it will happen when ur not looking because you are shining,this stage is just a trough ,its feeling low because of everything you have had to deal with ,but you did it ,you have the best co parenting set up on this thread if i remember rightly and a great FIL.Its all good Tea ,you are prob like me that you need a break from ur 2 wee ones sometimes i have no childcare ATM but X is meant to be taking them 2morrow so that is something.But i dont have a social life at all ,no friends close by no support networl LOL!But i would rather have a few good friends that are a lot older than a lot of young uns getting me pissed iyswim.I am just travelling through this disaster/gift of a year Tea ,is your cup have full or half empty,i needed to train myself to see it as half full ,i could talk the hind legs off a donkey about the injustice in my life but all that ever did was make me sad and angry.Instead now i think God teaches us lessons right thru our lives by the people that we meet.Or he gives us people to meet to teach ourselves lessons.If we have a weakness we are stronger for learning from an experience that is put in our path.I think that is where i get my positives Tea and my strength.I think when i die i will be asked what did i learn from my life and i dont want to be the one that was resentful because i got divorced at 39yo.Instead i have to make this an experience that will make me a stronger person not a hard faced bitch.Re lethargy it will pass,but write down what gives you joy ,i find when i am low i forget the obvious things.I also get more emotional pre menst.I can have black black moods when i cant see a solution but the next day its better.Today terrier went in a hole under a tree for 1hr at the park ,we were just about to go home.It was getting dark we had half hour cycle and i nearly had to phone x to come and sit at hole in the ground or fetch kids.Anyway she appeared but i was frozen after sitting with my head down a hole shouting .But hey that is what i used to do for fun just more tricky with 2 dcs in tow .They were wrapped up playing DD was the referee and had ds running races against her imaginary friend "Doyle "Ds didnt seem bothered that doyle kept winning ,he is a good lad.Anyway what i mean is take it easy Tea ,dont be too hard on yourself ,your counsellor says you are doin fab ,i just think sometimes our minds and bodies say to our brians TIME OUT .Too much too deal with ,i just take it as a warning to look after myself ,sit on my butt and watch ,strawberry shortcake and find out what is going on in berry city,i am actually starting to enjoy the carebears these days ,dcs really love when i take an interest.They do lots of sports and stuff but its nice to sit cuddled up and watch tv sometimes ,helps me to chill and be positive even when my floor needs scrubbed or the carpet needs hoovered ,manyana.

armbow · 10/10/2010 02:45

"The price we pay for love is grief"

I heard this once and it is very true I find.... better to have loved and lost I think. H and I were the golden couple up until recently so I am thankful for that.

Tea....
You are one amazing lady, you are a fab mum too. You make cakes. Send cards to cbeebies. Take ur kids on fab days out AND you are studying. That is a hell of a lot to get done! Please go easy on yourself.... go to the docs if you feel you need to....do you do stuff for you ? Try and not put yourself last all the time. I will say a prayer for you x

Sov ... 4dcs is bloody tough. You are in early days and it is normal to feel down. I think the key is to recognise your triggers and listen to what your body needs. For example if I get too tired of an evening and stay up too late I feel the low mood set in. I have recognised this so on nights like that I trot up to bed nice and early have a hot milk and think positive thoughts. Fresh air. Good food. Plenty of water and lots of comedy on tv pulls me through the tough days.

Massive hugs to all...

teaandcakeplease · 10/10/2010 08:31

Starting you are completely right, I think it must have and I don't think next time I feel like that I'll say anything but keep it to myself Smile Truthfully I think all my friends think by now I should be well over the marriage by now. I am in a way. But the loneliness remains and feeling odd as the only lone parent in my group of friends. I struggle to relate to some of what they complain about nowadays.

I did try your way of doing things Patience but I do not seem to have the emotional energy within me. It exhausted me trying to be like that. That's why I think I need to talk to the GP it goes further within. If he thinks I do have depression and can prescribe me something mild enough but just enough to sort my brain chemistry out, I may suddenly find life a bit easier. As I've only just had my AF and none of this is related to PMT (well not this time Wink) but I am like a bear with a sore head when usually due on Blush

The book isn't all negative, she was setting the scene on her early marriage break up and feelings. I've only read a 3rd of it so far but it is helpful. However the title of the book is probably more fitting for her as she'd been married for 22 years and thought she did have a good marriage until her husband up and left and took 2 of their older children with him. However as it is heavily full of biblical passages and her discussing how she was treated in the church etc it's not a book for everybody. I don't miss being married to my lazy, lying, cheating H anymore. But life does feel grey and bleak to me right now very much.

Off to church shortly. Now that does bring me peace.

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armbow · 10/10/2010 11:07

Hello move day today and tomorrow.

New life starts when I wake up in a house that's not full of memories.

Happy - I saw that played advertised it looked good.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 10/10/2010 11:36

Big hugs Tea as i have always said on here we will all find our own way down this new path that life has thrown at us and i truly believe that .Do what works for you and believe in that , nobody can tell us what will make us cope only we can find that out
I take my strength from how i have coped so far but personally i know i have to stay positive it is the only way that i will survive it.Will find out about the house tomorrow so fingers x'd tenant moved out yesterday .Big hugs again Tea This too shall pass and brighter days are ahead 4u x
I also believe our brains suffer from a sort of post traumatic shock thing ,it releases feelings sometimes many months after the initial pain and shock .Sometimes i find it hard when i have already put something to rest and i pops back up to give me a black day ,or i remember something from years ago that is so bad i truly couldnt cope with it at the time .We will all work through our problems now and come out of it stronger and a force to be recognised ,we will spread our hope and strength across to others ,have a great time at church,believe in yourself and take care x

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